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Greek Referendum Poll

Started by Zanza, July 02, 2015, 04:06:25 PM

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Greek Referendum

The Greeks will vote No and should vote No
18 (40.9%)
The Greeks will vote No but should vote Yes
16 (36.4%)
The Greeks will vote Yes but should vote No
6 (13.6%)
The Greeks will vote Yes and should vote Yes
4 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Admiral Yi

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2015, 10:04:37 PM
Didn't the UK economy only start to grow after they eased off on the austerity?

Never heard anything like this.

Pretty please with a cherry on top Timmy, put a hard return after you quote someone.

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2015, 10:04:37 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 15, 2015, 09:32:50 PM

Furthermore, operating just with your own narrow definition of austerity, the UK has among the highest growth rates in Europe, it has stabilized debt/GDP at 90%, and it has preserved its credit rating and is currently paying about 1.5% on long term bonds.

So no, you can't say "austerity doesn't work."
Didn't the UK economy only start to grow after they eased off on the austerity?

I'd say that Osborne's bark was worse than his bite, "austerity" has been pretty limited in these parts imo, borrowing has slowly fallen to about  4.4% of GDP pa..........with growth rates of 2.5 - 3.0% and core inflation of a couple of % that is hardly a problem of course.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

Right now their best option is the one set out by the IMF yesterday - a restructuring/partial elimination of the debt so that Greece has a reasonable probability of becoming solvent within the Eurozone.  If that doesn't occur then I agree, they will have to exit and bite the devaluation bullet.

there's no one stopping the IMF from making an example and eliminating the debt the Greeks have with it.

Warspite

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2015, 10:04:37 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 15, 2015, 09:32:50 PM

Furthermore, operating just with your own narrow definition of austerity, the UK has among the highest growth rates in Europe, it has stabilized debt/GDP at 90%, and it has preserved its credit rating and is currently paying about 1.5% on long term bonds.

So no, you can't say "austerity doesn't work."
Didn't the UK economy only start to grow after they eased off on the austerity?

Osborne reduced the level of cuts quite quickly once the economy began to sputter badly in 2011/12 (I think then). In the end by 2015, he implemented the pace of cuts recommended by Labour.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on July 17, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

Right now their best option is the one set out by the IMF yesterday - a restructuring/partial elimination of the debt so that Greece has a reasonable probability of becoming solvent within the Eurozone.  If that doesn't occur then I agree, they will have to exit and bite the devaluation bullet.

there's no one stopping the IMF from making an example and eliminating the debt the Greeks have with it.

If only that was true

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2015, 07:24:22 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on July 17, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

Right now their best option is the one set out by the IMF yesterday - a restructuring/partial elimination of the debt so that Greece has a reasonable probability of becoming solvent within the Eurozone.  If that doesn't occur then I agree, they will have to exit and bite the devaluation bullet.

there's no one stopping the IMF from making an example and eliminating the debt the Greeks have with it.

If only that was true

in which case they need to keep their mouth shut.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on July 17, 2015, 07:42:09 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2015, 07:24:22 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on July 17, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

Right now their best option is the one set out by the IMF yesterday - a restructuring/partial elimination of the debt so that Greece has a reasonable probability of becoming solvent within the Eurozone.  If that doesn't occur then I agree, they will have to exit and bite the devaluation bullet.

there's no one stopping the IMF from making an example and eliminating the debt the Greeks have with it.

If only that was true

in which case they need to keep their mouth shut.
What do you think is the role of the IMF?