EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[Martinus]

Incidentally, Polish immigrants in Chicago are the worst bunch. They are usually the dumbest yokels who need to keep together with others of their kind because they are too stupid to meld in. Unfortunately, thanks to Poland's very generous foreign voting laws (I guess a legacy of our emigration history), all these fucks can vote in all elections in Poland (and their votes just add up to the Warsaw district, of all places) and almost always vote for right wing nationalists.

The successful Poles do not end up in Chicago but rather in NYC or LA and they rarely stick together with the "Polish community".

[The Brain]

successful Poles

Elaborate.

[Admiral Yi]

And I disagree

Then next time why don't you just say that and spare us the nonsense about the Geneva Convention and men without penises.

[Liep]

The Syrians are now complaining about all the Albanians and Kosovians(sp?) that are in majority in the giant tent camps in Germany. "They are aggressive and start fights, why are they even here? They're not fleeing from war."

[Zanza]

They have a point there.

[The Brain]

They're fleeing to welfare. Surely we must help any and all refugees.

[dps]

To me, "refugee" would describe someone displaced by some sort of crisis (be it political, environmental, or what-have-you) for an indefinite but temporary period, whereas "immigrant" (and its opposite, "emigrant") would describe someone moving to a different country on what is intended to be a permanent basis.  "Migrant" would describe someone who is moving around on a constant or near constant basis, as in a migrant farm worker who moves around the country on a seasonal basis.

Perhaps instead of trying to understand what the term means "to you", you should read what it means in law, such as, I don't know, the Geneva Convention relating to the Status of Refugees?

Well, that would be relevant if the discussion were limited to what the Geneva Convention has to say about refugees.  I wasn't aware that we had agreed to that limitation here.

[Admiral Yi]

Kosovians(sp?)

Kosovar

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Kosovians(sp?)

Albanian (unless they're serbs from around Mitrovica)

corrected that for you

[Liep]

The Hungarian camera woman who tripped a refugee and his child is now sueing the refugee. And also Facebook. She told a Russian newspaper why, but it doesn't make any sense, which fits fine with her wanting to migrate to Russia.

If you want to know why: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/hungarian-camerawoman-petra-laszlo-plans-014537801.html#1LfeoIG

:misha:

Can't we get a Russia smiley? Maybe somehow a mix of  and 

[Eddie Teach]

Maybe somehow a mix of  and 

Sounds like 

[Tamas]

With the Hungarians fencing closing their border with Croatia, Slovenia is already ordering its army to its border with Croatia to be able to handle the influx. There was even use of teargas on the border yesterday, as Croatia and Slovenia are trying to keep the passage of refugees in a controlled and limited manner and said refugees get wary of waiting.

I guess it is worth noting that Hungary was putting up with this pressure longer than either Slovenia or Croatia without resorting to violence and army-sending, yet the two Balkan countries aren't receiving any bad press for it. I guess it comes down to the arrogant style of the Orban govenrment.

[Jacob]

I guess it comes down to the arrogant style of the Orban govenrment.

Style counts for a lot yes. That and the vagaries of timing and the public mood.

[The Brain]

The major parties in Sweden are now discussing the volume of immigrants. Even thinking about this was racism and fascism just a few months ago. I don't understand anymore!

[Valmy]

The major parties in Sweden are now discussing the volume of immigrants. Even thinking about this was racism and fascism just a few months ago. I don't understand anymore!

Will Sweden start selling ball bearings to themselves now?