Couple found guilty of having sex on Florida beach

[Caliga]

Why do conservatives fear sex so much?

Having fun = BAD.  No drinking, dancing, and fornication allowed!  Just sit around praising JEEBUS all day!

[Valmy]

Without going into the question of whether or not having a sex offender registry is a good idea - if this is the stuff that gets you on it, the list becomes pretty useless when it comes to gauging whether someone is a dangerous sex criminal.

Yep. This is the kind of thing I have been talking about for years. There is nothing to differentiate whether somebody had sex with their 15 year old partner at 18 or whether or not one is a serial rapist.

It is basically used to destroy people and not to actually keep the public safe.

[Valmy]

I hope the sex was worth it.

Would you say the same thing to the gay teenagers hanged in Iran few years ago? Because that would make you as douchebaggy.

Yeah that was some pretty fucked up shit for garbon to say.

[The Brain]

I hope the sex wasn't worth it.

[grumbler]

Why do conservatives fear sex so much?

they are afraid that, if society tolerates public sex, it will become more open to tolerating public dancing.

[Malthus]

Without going into the question of whether or not having a sex offender registry is a good idea - if this is the stuff that gets you on it, the list becomes pretty useless when it comes to gauging whether someone is a dangerous sex criminal.

Has it ever been its purpose?  Americans just have this very dangerous tendency to identify people they don't want to be part of their society, and then hit them hard with any means at their disposal.

The problem is also that the mechanism for dividing the lambs from the wolves seems rather screwy.

Pretty well everone I know has, at some point or another, used an illegal drug, or had sex in public - often at much the same time.  Oh, to be 19-24 or so again ...

None have, to my knowledge, ever robbed people, committed acts of violence, or the like; it strikes me that society ought to reserve serious sanctions for that.

[Valmy]

But pretty useful in ensuring someone never obtains gainful employment again.

..and for the record, I'm strongly opposed to lifelong offender registries.  If you're not going to allow someone to be a functional, productive member of society, then just keep them in prison.

Yep.

[Valmy]

Why do conservatives fear sex so much?

I don't think Conservatives are actually for this. It is one of those unintended consequences of a law meant to deal with something else. And it is damn hard to get them reformed or repealed.

Despite this it is still damn hard to lock up actual rapists so...go figure.

[Martinus]

What I find rather disappointing is that massive explosion of privacy breaches due to Facebook etc has not yet resulted in employers of the younger generation essentially saying "fuck this shit" and starting to ignore this in employment decisions. I thought we would eventually reach the critical mass.

[The Brain]

What I find rather disappointing is that massive explosion of privacy breaches due to Facebook etc has not yet resulted in employers of the younger generation essentially saying "fuck this shit" and starting to ignore this in employment decisions. I thought we would eventually reach the critical mass.

Ignoring criminal records?

[Martinus]

Sure why not?

[derspiess]

Why do conservatives fear sex so much?

We don't.

[Malthus]

Also, why does the judge not have discretion in sentencing? Is this a "sentencing guidelines" thing?

Ronald Kurpiers, defense attorney for the couple, said his clients were "devastated," by the verdict. Though Dafonseca hinted that they'd be speaking with the judge about whether or not 15 years was appropriate for Caballero, Kurpiers said the judge would have no discretion.

"That's what he'll get," Kurpiers said.

[lustindarkness]

Article sucks, no mention if she is hot.

[Syt]

Also, why does the judge not have discretion in sentencing? Is this a "sentencing guidelines" thing?

Ronald Kurpiers, defense attorney for the couple, said his clients were "devastated," by the verdict. Though Dafonseca hinted that they'd be speaking with the judge about whether or not 15 years was appropriate for Caballero, Kurpiers said the judge would have no discretion.

"That's what he'll get," Kurpiers said.

Better than if he's facing re-election and doesn't want to be seen as soft on crime? Or worse?