Fear of Modernity and Technology Is Fueling a Return to Medievalism

[garbon]

It doesn't suck.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Anyway, if modernity wanted adherents, it shouldn't have fucking sucked so much.

The alternatives are far worse, so a bit like democracy in that respect.

[Ed Anger]

Anyway, if modernity wanted adherents, it shouldn't have fucking sucked so much.

It brought you the peanut butter cup, you Luddite.

[grumbler]

Anyway, if modernity wanted adherents, it shouldn't have fucking sucked so much.

Kinda like communism, then.

[Siege]

I think climate change is Green\Red anti capitalist conspiracy, but I am in favor of going ahead technologically as fast as possible.

I honestly do not care one way or the other. Even if humans are not causing global warming pollution probably isn't good so let's advance technology so we do not need to burn stuff anymore. And of course liberal capitalism does environmentalism far better than communism.

You see, in this we agree.
More efficient engines and more efficent recycling means a more effective economy.
However the Greens (The new Reds) wants to condemn the world to poverty by forcing dependance on unreliable sources of energy.
Poverty bad, consume society good, 100% recycling consume society is better.

[Siege]

I think climate change is Green\Red anti capitalist conspiracy

On what evidence do you base this belief?

In that all the rabid communists che guevara loving all the sudden became enviromentalists after the fall of communism.
The Greens are trying to achieve what the Reds failed to do. The dismantling of western capitalism.

[Eddie Teach]

In that all the rabid communists che guevara loving all the sudden became enviromentalists after the fall of communism.

So a few alienated college students joined the Green party instead of a communist party, big deal. The actual communists are mostly still communist.

[Siege]

Too much scifi. There is no FTL in the visible horizon.
Any colonies would be through slow boats.
This means a break in comms and a future rediscovery by our descendants.

Instead of thinking European explorers setting up colonies in the Americas, think of European explores discovering Polynesia, which is a rediscovery from the human history point of view.

Why a communication break?  The laser is well-established technology.

The real difficulty is getting there in the first place.

Lets say we colonize a planet 50 light years away.
To travel there will take about 500 years at our current maximum theoretical speed (10 years per lightyear using Orion project like tech = 1 tenth of lightspeed) .
During those 500 years, we either reach the singularity and become immortal (undefined lifespan) or political and economical entities change and however launched the ship will be long gone by the time they land.
Then one way laser comm is 50 years, with another 50 years for a response.
Then, the colony is starting from zero, so no infrastructure to build whatever blue prints the colony recieve.
Last but not least, we don't know the energy requirements to lase a planet 50 lightyears away with usable coded information.

[Valmy]

In that all the rabid communists che guevara loving all the sudden became enviromentalists after the fall of communism.
The Greens are trying to achieve what the Reds failed to do. The dismantling of western capitalism.

The problem with the Greens is that even when you have a cause you think they might support they are just too insane to be good allies. They will block everything from windfarms to nuke plants to Solar manufacturing. Because, I guess burning coal and gas is better for the environment in bizarro leftist world.

[The Minsky Moment]

I think climate change is Green\Red anti capitalist conspiracy

On what evidence do you base this belief?

In that all the rabid communists che guevara loving all the sudden became enviromentalists after the fall of communism.
The Greens are trying to achieve what the Reds failed to do. The dismantling of western capitalism.

At the risk of taking the troll seriously, I'll link to the wiki page listing the members of the Pigou Club (supporters of a shift to carbon taxation):  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigou_Club

Members include many conservative and center-right economists and pundit including Greg Mankiw (founder), the late Gary Becker, Alan Greenspan and Arthur Laffer.   I can assure you these gentlemen aren't plotting to dismantle capitalism.

[Jacob]

Apparently this winter has been the hottest on record, ever.

The only place that experienced colder temperatures than average was the Eastern parts of the US.

[Gups]

Apparently this winter has been the hottest on record, ever.

The only place that experienced colder temperatures than average was the Eastern parts of the US.

Only according to the meteorologists. Who are obviously part  of the vast red-green conspiracy. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

[garbon]

Apparently this winter has been the hottest on record, ever.

The only place that experienced colder temperatures than average was the Eastern parts of the US.

Only according to the meteorologists. Who are obviously part  of the vast red-green conspiracy. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Shouldn't that be sheeple?

[Siege]

I feel so alone...

[Admiral Yi]

In that all the rabid communists che guevara loving all the sudden became enviromentalists after the fall of communism.
The Greens are trying to achieve what the Reds failed to do. The dismantling of western capitalism.

What have you done to test this interesting theory?