The Greens: Humanity's greatest enemy

[Zoupa]

Pretty much. This part:

"While their rivals recognise more trade, more innovation, more competition and more globalisation as an engine for prosperity for everyone on the planet, the Greens argue it is nothing more than a race to the bottom that has made the poor poorer, the rich richer, and pillaged the environment."

seems about right though.

Yes.  Scientific backwardness and coal mines for all is how to save the environment.

You really think innovation has made the poor poorer and destroyed the environment?  Whatever.  The numbers of people living in poverty is not getting smaller.  Please convince me of this brilliant idea.

My God, I cannot believe a supposed supporter of French socialism would be such a Luddite.

The poor are poorer, the rich are definitely richer and for sure we shot the environment. Innovation and science have little to do with any of it. Wall Street does.

I'm past caring though. The planet's gone through worse. Something or another will wipe a good number of us off eventually.

[Ideologue]

"On the scale of deep time, surely the damage we've done to environment pales in comparison to the worst excesses of the Permian-Triassic extinction.  Oh, it probably won't?  Oh dear."

[Eddie Teach]

If the damage is as bad as you say, at least it's a good indicator we're on our first cycle.

[Siege]

Can I be: Metrosexual?

[Tamas]

So Sheilbh and Zoupa dislikes globalisation? Do you know what globalisation mainly is? The move of capital and wealth from the West to the ROTW. A true leftist should embrace globalisation as the great equaliser. To hate globalisation reveals one as a conservative afraid of losing unjust perks.

[Martinus]

Well yeah, but this argument is also partially bullshit, Tamas. In practice, globalisation mainly moves wealth from strong countries to weak countries - where it can be easily accessed and siphoned by the rich.

[Tamas]

Well yeah, but this argument is also partially bullshit, Tamas. In practice, globalisation mainly moves wealth from strong countries to weak countries - where it can be easily accessed and siphoned by the rich.

Yeah, far from perfect, and of course the first benefactors will be those with easiest access to the incoming wealth. But look at China, Vietnam, India etc before globalisation and now. Plenty of problems but they have grown, or are growing to be their own on the global playground, with middle classes showing signs of growth.

Fight globalisation and you are fighting the (potential) rise of the thirld world from poverty. Simple as that.

[Martinus]

To me this seems like trickle-down theory, which does not work very well in practice.

[Grey Fox]

I think I may be an Economic green.

Shit.

[Gups]

I've been meaning to post this for a while and as someone who's been boring every dinner party I've ever been to with how awful and un-leftie the Greens are, it's a delight to have proof:

At a dinner party a week or two ago, I said that I'd rather vote UKIP then Green. I might as well have drowned a kitten in the lentils, the looks I got

[Martinus]

I've been meaning to post this for a while and as someone who's been boring every dinner party I've ever been to with how awful and un-leftie the Greens are, it's a delight to have proof:

At a dinner party a week or two ago, I said that I'd rather vote UKIP then Green. I might as well have drowned a kitten in the lentils, the looks I got

Who would you vote for after those two? Or is this under the AV system?

[Ed Anger]

I'd vote for Hitler

[Sheilbh]

So I'll put you down as a Lib Dem.

[Gups]

I've been meaning to post this for a while and as someone who's been boring every dinner party I've ever been to with how awful and un-leftie the Greens are, it's a delight to have proof:

At a dinner party a week or two ago, I said that I'd rather vote UKIP then Green. I might as well have drowned a kitten in the lentils, the looks I got

Who would you vote for after those two? Or is this under the AV system?

See above. But only with a gun at my head. I'd rather drown a kitten in the lentils than vote for either of them.

[Ed Anger]

So I'll put you down as a Lib Dem.