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Started by Syt, March 16, 2009, 01:52:42 AM

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The Brain

#4081
May 19, 2020, 02:13:17 PM
At least she likes Richard Gloucester.
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Habbaku

#4082
May 19, 2020, 02:40:40 PM
Loving Eddy IV is easy. Hating Henry VI is just cruel. Hating Richard III is based upon faulty scholarship.  :P
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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Sophie Scholl

#4083
May 19, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 19, 2020, 02:40:40 PM
Loving Eddy IV is easy. Hating Henry VI is just cruel. Hating Richard III is based upon faulty scholarship.  :P
Agreed on all counts!  :cheers:
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The Minsky Moment

#4084
May 19, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
They were all a bunch of glorified mobsters with fancy titles, except possibly Henry VI who may have been genuinely mentally ill.
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The Brain

#4085
May 19, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 19, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
They were all a bunch of glorified mobsters with fancy titles, except possibly Henry VI who may have been genuinely mentally ill.

If only Henry had been a glorified mobster, then England's soil would have been depriv'd of rivers of English blood. :(
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Valmy

#4086
May 19, 2020, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 19, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
They were all a bunch of glorified mobsters with fancy titles

Mobsters usually do have fancy titles.

Edward IV was pretty cool though. Pity he died at such a shitty time for his kids.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#4087
May 19, 2020, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 19, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 19, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
They were all a bunch of glorified mobsters with fancy titles, except possibly Henry VI who may have been genuinely mentally ill.

If only Henry had been a glorified mobster, then England's soil would have been depriv'd of rivers of English blood. :(

True. Not being a mobster was bad news for your people.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Habbaku

#4088
May 19, 2020, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 19, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
They were all a bunch of glorified mobsters with fancy titles, except possibly Henry VI who may have been genuinely mentally ill.

If he wasn't mentally ill, what was he? Just extremely motivated to take a brain nap for a year?
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

jimmy olsen

#4089
May 22, 2020, 11:05:10 PM
Anyone can recommend books on ancient Mesopotamia before the rise of the Achaemenid Empire.

I'm particularly interested in the Neolithic and Bronze Age civilizations, the earlier the better.

I just read this article and it peaked my interest

https://www.ancient.eu/article/688/love-sex-and-marriage-in-ancient-mesopotamia/
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Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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The Brain

#4090
May 23, 2020, 01:19:31 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2020, 11:05:10 PM
Anyone can recommend books on ancient Mesopotamia before the rise of the Achaemenid Empire.

I'm particularly interested in the Neolithic and Bronze Age civilizations, the earlier the better.

I just read this article and it peaked my interest

https://www.ancient.eu/article/688/love-sex-and-marriage-in-ancient-mesopotamia/

It covers the globe, not just Mesopotamia, but I found https://www.amazon.com/Human-Past-History-Development-Societies/dp/050029335X/ref=dp_ob_title_bk very interesting and informative. I have an earlier edition.
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Eddie Teach

#4091
May 23, 2020, 12:03:08 PM
Gilgamesh was more powerful than the Bull of Anu! You should read his biography.
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grumbler

#4092
May 23, 2020, 03:54:02 PM
Too late.  Tim's interest, as he pointed out, has already peaked.
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jimmy olsen

#4093
May 23, 2020, 08:19:39 PM
I picked the most recently published book in the bibliography for that article and am 28% in so far.

Kriwaczek, P. Babylon: Mesopotamia and the Birth of Civilization. St. Martin's Griffin, 2012.

Pretty damn interesting in my opinion, but this is an area of which I knew extremely little, so I'll have to read a few more books to really judge it.

The author does get overly philosophical at times, the preface especially where he waxes on about the Iran-Iraq war and the 2003 invasion is a bit overblown.

I'm really interested in the 4000-3000BC period and the theorized theocratic command economy of Uruk, but obviously given the paucity of written records of the time there's not much to go on. 
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Admiral Yi

#4094
May 23, 2020, 09:33:39 PM
Paucity was nice, but one's interest is piqued Timmy, not peaked.  It's possible for interest to have peaked, but that means something different obviously.
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