Grand unified books thread

[Ed Anger]

Pros:

Dead Mexicans
Dead Mexicans
DEAD MEXICANS

Cons:

Davey Twiggs

[Razgovory]

Yeah.

No, sir.  I respect Grant's an your opinion, but Manifest Destiny demanded that the land be ours.  Lord knows the Mexicans weren't doing anything productive with it.

Naked aggression on behalf of slave owners is never good.

[Habbaku]

Naked aggression on behalf of slave owners is never good.

[CountDeMoney]

Eminent domain is fine as long as it's nation to nation, eh? 

It evened out the map, man, made it flush with the floorboards.  And besides, the stars would've been all fucked up.

[jimmy olsen]

Yeah.

No, sir.  I respect Grant's an your opinion, but Manifest Destiny demanded that the land be ours.  Lord knows the Mexicans weren't doing anything productive with it.

Naked aggression on behalf of slave owners is never good.

Don't see any slaves there now. We should have taken Mexico to the 25th parralel. Nicholas Trist was a traitor to his country! 

[Eddie Teach]

We should annex Mexico and Canada so their voters can help us get socialized health care.

[Razgovory]

Yeah.

No, sir.  I respect Grant's an your opinion, but Manifest Destiny demanded that the land be ours.  Lord knows the Mexicans weren't doing anything productive with it.

Naked aggression on behalf of slave owners is never good.

Don't see any slaves there now. We should have taken Mexico to the 25th parralel. Nicholas Trist was a traitor to his country! 

I seem to recall a nasty war to solve that problem.  Why the devil would we want more Mexico?

[jimmy olsen]

Yeah.

No, sir.  I respect Grant's an your opinion, but Manifest Destiny demanded that the land be ours.  Lord knows the Mexicans weren't doing anything productive with it.

Naked aggression on behalf of slave owners is never good.

Don't see any slaves there now. We should have taken Mexico to the 25th parralel. Nicholas Trist was a traitor to his country! 

I seem to recall a nasty war to solve that problem.  Why the devil would we want more Mexico?

Would the war have been worse if we took more of Mexico? If not, what would be the problem?

Mexico north of the 25th was virtually unpopulated at the time aside from the natives. This was especially true in the northwestern half. The northeastern half and some light settlements.

[Razgovory]

Virtually unpopulated except for the natives.

The question is not "Why what is the problem?", it's "Why should we be taking other people's land?".

[Ed Anger]

Timmay is unrolling his handmade spunk covered Alt-Hist maps as I speak.

[Eddie Teach]

Virtually unpopulated except for the natives.

The question is not "Why what is the problem?", it's "Why should we be taking other people's land?".

Because it's there and we're stronger than they are.

[jimmy olsen]

Virtually unpopulated except for the natives.

The question is not "Why what is the problem?", it's "Why should we be taking other people's land?".

By natives I mean the Native Americans. Unjustly or not, they simply did not factor into the calculus of Americans at the time. The territory had very few Mexicans.

[Syt]

Francis Fukuyama's Origins of Political Order

How did you like it?

[Admiral Yi]

By natives I mean the Native Americans. Unjustly or not, they simply did not factor into the calculus of Americans at the time. The territory had very few Mexicans.

I don't really understand your distinction between Native Americans and Mexicans.

[jimmy olsen]

By natives I mean the Native Americans. Unjustly or not, they simply did not factor into the calculus of Americans at the time. The territory had very few Mexicans.

I don't really understand your distinction between Native Americans and Mexicans.

Just because most Mexicans now and then were mostly of native stock doesn't mean they were in any way culturally similar to the Apaches and the other tribes living traditionally in the North.