The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Razgovory]

I'm thinking that maybe the investigation of police shooting and any trial that comes from that should be handled by the feds and not the locals.

[CountDeMoney]

  Not these feds.  Not for a while anyway.

[derspiess]

I also have the feeling the University of Cincinnati cop is going to walk.  If he ends up with a hung jury again here in his second trial, I don't see them trying him a third time.  Prosecution screwed up; should have charged him with manslaughter instead of murder.

They knew what they were doing.

Doubtful.  Seems like mere incompetence.  At the beginning of (or right before) the first trial, the prosecutor tried to get it changed to reckless manslaughter, but the judge denied, saying he should have done that when charges were first brought.  I think reckless manslaughter would have been open & shut, and at least Tensing would have been put away on something.  But no, they had to swing for the home run right at the beginning.

It's a shitty situation.  I think murder was something of an over-charge, but I would have looked the other way had he been convicted.  Now things are going to get out of hand. 

[Admiral Yi]

Can't keep track without a score card.  Is this about the little kid with the replica gun?

[grumbler]

Can't keep track without a score card.  Is this about the little kid with the replica gun?

This is the cop who reached into the car of an uncooperative black motorist, then thought he was in danger because he had his hand in the car, and so pulled out his gun and blew the driver away.

I agree with Spicy that reckless manslaughter was the proper charge. 

I think the cop who shot the fleeing motorist in the back about six times got away with blatant murder one, though, if I have the scorecard right.

[CountDeMoney]

It's a shitty situation.  I think murder was something of an over-charge, but I would have looked the other way had he been convicted.

That's damned swell of you.  Glad you could see yourself through to that.

[The Minsky Moment]

They don't have lesser included offenses in Ohio?

[derspiess]

They don't have lesser included offenses in Ohio?

I'm sure we do, but somehow the prosecution managed to pigeonhole itself. Not sure how it happened.

[derspiess]

It's a shitty situation.  I think murder was something of an over-charge, but I would have looked the other way had he been convicted.

That's damned swell of you.  Glad you could see yourself through to that.

Stay woke.

[viper37]

This is the cop who reached into the car of an uncooperative black motorist, then thought he was in danger because he had his hand in the car, and so pulled out his gun and blew the driver away.

He wasn't uncooperative.  he was asked to get his license, he told the cop he had a gun and he tried to get his license from his pocket.

That he felt he was in danger in undeniable: he was facing a blackman and cops tend to assume all blacks are dangerous, even balck cops, because that's apparently their training.

[DGuller]

This is the cop who reached into the car of an uncooperative black motorist, then thought he was in danger because he had his hand in the car, and so pulled out his gun and blew the driver away.

He wasn't uncooperative.  he was asked to get his license, he told the cop he had a gun and he tried to get his license from his pocket.

That he felt he was in danger in undeniable: he was facing a blackman and cops tend to assume all blacks are dangerous, even balck cops, because that's apparently their training.

You're thinking of the different in case.  In this case the driver started the car after being asked to step out, so the cop shot him in the head as a precaution.

[11B4V]

This is the cop who reached into the car of an uncooperative black motorist, then thought he was in danger because he had his hand in the car, and so pulled out his gun and blew the driver away.

He wasn't uncooperative.  he was asked to get his license, he told the cop he had a gun and he tried to get his license from his pocket.

That he felt he was in danger in undeniable: he was facing a blackman and cops tend to assume all blacks are dangerous, even balck cops, because that's apparently their training.

You're thinking of the different in case.  In this case the driver started the car after being asked to step out, so the cop shot him in the head as a precaution.

Wasn't that the university cop?

[HVC]

I also have the feeling the University of Cincinnati cop is going to walk.  If he ends up with a hung jury again here in his second trial, I don't see them trying him a third time.  Prosecution screwed up; should have charged him with manslaughter instead of murder.

They knew what they were doing.

If they convict him they're the enemy, but if they prosecute him their just doing what they have to do under public pressure.

[CountDeMoney]

Stay woke.

Eat shit and shoot a nigger, Zimmerman. 

[CountDeMoney]

In this case the driver started the car after being asked to step out, so the cop shot him in the head as a precaution.

When somebody like that decided to rabbit on a traffic stop, we'd just have to go meet them at their house later on or the next day.  But like all you fucking autistics insist, I'm out of touch.