The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[DGuller]

  Yeah, execution sucked on that one.

[CountDeMoney]

It's nearly impossible to be as race-conscious as the three of you.

At least I'm willing to admit this nation has race issues that are integral to and unavoidable in our society, one that affects virtually every aspect of daily life, and we are absolutely no closer to dealing with it successfully now than we were in 1865 or 1965.
Saying it doesn't exist or saying it's "better", and not addressing it directly, is a bullshit cop-out.

[Berkut]

If it was the case that we were no better off now that in 1865, then I guess it is pretty hopeless to even bother trying.

Of course, that isn't the case at all.

[Jacob]

Thought I was responding to you.

How did anything I said reflect race consciousness?

I said whether you were shot dead because you ran away from the cops and then were alleged to shoot at them first, or whether you were shot dead because they busted through your door unannounced (but with a warrant) and you shot at them, it wouldn't matter much to you (you'd be dead) or those who care about you (you'd be dead).

Where's the race consciousness in that?

[Eddie Teach]

If you had commented "But you're white and he's black and that's how your math works" it would make more sense.

[garbon]

Thought I was responding to you.

How did anything I said reflect race consciousness?

I said whether you were shot dead because you ran away from the cops and then were alleged to shoot at them first, or whether you were shot dead because they busted through your door unannounced (but with a warrant) and you shot at them, it wouldn't matter much to you (you'd be dead) or those who care about you (you'd be dead).

Where's the race consciousness in that?

The quoted post he replied to, he thought you were the author.

[derspiess]

Thought I was responding to you.

How did anything I said reflect race consciousness?

I said whether you were shot dead because you ran away from the cops and then were alleged to shoot at them first, or whether you were shot dead because they busted through your door unannounced (but with a warrant) and you shot at them, it wouldn't matter much to you (you'd be dead) or those who care about you (you'd be dead).

Where's the race consciousness in that?

I was confused and thought you had written the post that Seedy wrote.  I hereby retract any previous allegations of race-consciousness as far as you are concerned 

[Jacob]

Thought I was responding to you.

How did anything I said reflect race consciousness?

I said whether you were shot dead because you ran away from the cops and then were alleged to shoot at them first, or whether you were shot dead because they busted through your door unannounced (but with a warrant) and you shot at them, it wouldn't matter much to you (you'd be dead) or those who care about you (you'd be dead).

Where's the race consciousness in that?

I was confused and thought you had wrote the post that Seedy wrote.  I hereby retract any previous allegations of race-consciousness as far as you are concerned 

[Razgovory]

There is something seriously wrong when I start siding with Derspeiss.

[CountDeMoney]

If it was the case that we were no better off now that in 1865, then I guess it is pretty hopeless to even bother trying.

Of course, that isn't the case at all.

Yeah, let's sit on our laurels.  After all, they can vote now and they got a President, so what's their problem?

[Berkut]

If it was the case that we were no better off now that in 1865, then I guess it is pretty hopeless to even bother trying.

Of course, that isn't the case at all.

Yeah, let's sit on our laurels.  After all, they can vote now and they got a President, so what's their problem?

Do you even have any idea how silly you sound?

If in fact we had made no progress since 1865, then we should sit on our laurels - hell, if the effect of 160 years of trying is "no better now than then" then we should probably conclude it is hopeless.

This is YOUR argument, not mine.

The reality is of course that we have made incredible progress, which suggests that we should *continue* to work, since progress is being made. Your argument, in your fanatical desire to make everything binary, is actually arguing against your own supposed desires.

[derspiess]

There is something seriously wrong when I start siding with Derspeiss.

NLCS, BABY!!! 

[Jacob]

There is something seriously wrong when I start siding with Derspeiss.

Definitely. Time to reassess your assumptions and reasoning.

[Ed Anger]

I side with Spicy and Raz also. Go cops!

[Razgovory]

My idiot brother drove up to St. Louis for some reason.  He just called on his cell to ask why they street is blocked off and every one is rioting.