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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Richard Hakluyt

If it was good enough for the Habsburgs....

But, perhaps we should move on, another 20+ civilians killed in Ukraine today.

Tonitrus

For all the crap that Biden and his advisors got for being too shy of Russian nuclear bluster...from what I have seen over years in comments about them from the current POTUS, I think he is even far more influenced and afraid of that threat.

Richard Hakluyt

Well a Russian nuclear strike might actually hit HIM.

PJL

That's what all the billionaires fear most, WW3 will utterly wipe out all their real estate portfolios and completely destroy the stock market. Which is why I am less concerned about it than I used to be, especially if the alternative is subservience to tinpot dictators.

HVC

Rule 34: War is good for business.
Rule 35: Peace is good for business.

Where there's a will (and corruption) there's a way (to get rich)
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

The Brain

Quote from: HVC on March 08, 2025, 03:01:16 PMRule 34: War is good for business.
Rule 35: Peace is good for business.

Where there's a will (and corruption) there's a way (to get rich)

Are you sure that's Rule 34?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

HVC

Quote from: The Brain on March 08, 2025, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 08, 2025, 03:01:16 PMRule 34: War is good for business.
Rule 35: Peace is good for business.

Where there's a will (and corruption) there's a way (to get rich)

Are you sure that's Rule 34?

Ferengi rule of acquisition 34 :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

War is not good for wealth preservation.

mongers

Quote from: PJL on March 08, 2025, 02:47:07 PMThat's what all the billionaires fear most, WW3 will utterly wipe out all their real estate portfolios and completely destroy the stock market. Which is why I am less concerned about it than I used to be, especially if the alternative is subservience to tinpot dictators.

:yes:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 08, 2025, 07:26:12 PMWar is not good for wealth preservation.

Only if the the war isn't being fought someplace else.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Any particular reason you are so gung ho for everybody in the world to join their respective country's military?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Josquius

#18762
Kursk looks in trouble.

Quote from: Razgovory on March 08, 2025, 12:02:15 PMNo, I'm pretty sure you were said that about people in Georgia.  It's okay though, such sentiments are common among people in of your class.  When the Revolution comes I will ask that you be spared. :)
We've seen how you guys are handling your bourgeois revolution so I think we will pass.


Quote from: HVC on March 08, 2025, 12:10:14 PMUhm, you literally did?

Quote from: Josquius on November 14, 2024, 02:40:38 AMYes yes the world is on fire and the everyone is screwed if we don't de carbonise... But what has that got to do with Dwayne In Cousinlove, Georgia?




Quoted for simplicities sake since razs link directs to my post (?) in the thread.


*edit* as for cousin loving, meh. It's still pretty common around the world, and if you go 70-80 years back it was even more common. Outbreeding is is a luxury of city living :D


Yes I've seen the quote, I remember what I said. Razs insistince it means I have a bizare personal hate for Georgia is just stupid and wrong.

That incest is a feature of hyper remote areas is a well understood stereotype. In Appalachia it goes beyond stereotype and into fact, endogamy is huge historic issue there. Lots of very non standard family trees.

I made up a guy with a hick-associated name in a completely non-existent place with a silly name that screamed "this is the absolute backwoods of the backwoods. Deliverance territory" for a point that had nothing to do with what should be a well understood mental picture.

But as that cluster fuck of a thread showed like many others its so much easier for Raz to follow the Trump playboy of playing the victim and drag others into the mud than actually engage with the real points.
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Razgovory

I am constantly surprised at your ability to miss the point, Josq.  It's a stereotype, as if that makes your discriminatory remarks better. You also show ignorance of the US, northern Georgia is not most remote of the backwoods of Appalachia (it is the edge, it's where Atlanta is) and you picked a stereotypical Black name. Non-standard family trees are not really a problem there at least not anymore than the majority of Britain.  I'm not saying you have a contempt for Georgians, but for poor Americans.


This isn't the Trump playbook, this is the left-wing Identity-politics playbook.  I've just switched it on it's head.  You obviously wouldn't say "cousin-love" Palestine (where endogamy is a real problem with marriage of first cousins is like 1 in 4), but you would say it about the US.  Different people, different standards.

Anyway, I said you said this, you claim it never happened, I provided the quote and bizarrely you still say it never happened.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 01:19:35 AMAny particular reason you are so gung ho for everybody in the world to join their respective country's military?
We are betting everything on Europe defending Ukraine, but half of the people in Western Europe, where all the money actually is, wouldn't fight to defend themselves.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017