The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant Megathread

[Martinus]

New Testament supercedes old testament, of course.

No it doesn't, at least not in the Catholic and the Orthodox tradition. It merely supplements it.

Anyway, the point is that there *is* a line in the Bible that commands killing of unbelievers. And it comes from the same set of books many Christians use to condemn homosexuality, for example, so you can't also claim this part of the Bible is uniformly ignored by Christians. Which also happens to be the set of books dominationists believe should be the basis of law.

[garbon]

Anyway, the point is that there *is* a line in the Bible that commands killing of unbelievers. And it comes from the same set of books many Christians use to condemn homosexuality, for example, so you can't also claim this part of the Bible is uniformly ignored by Christians.

Agreed though homosexuality is also decried in many parts of the NT.

[Martinus]

Anyway, the point is that there *is* a line in the Bible that commands killing of unbelievers. And it comes from the same set of books many Christians use to condemn homosexuality, for example, so you can't also claim this part of the Bible is uniformly ignored by Christians.

Agreed though homosexuality is also decried in many parts of the NT.

Not many. Just in one spot in the letters of St. Paul which are secondary and there is also a big debate over the translation (many believe the passage refers to male prostitutes). None of the gospels mentions homosexuality in any way.

[CountDeMoney]

Agreed though homosexuality is also decried in many parts of the NT.

But not the NYT.  What with that Style section and all.

[Valmy]

Not many. Just in one spot in the letters of St. Paul which are secondary and there is also a big debate over the translation (many believe the passage refers to male prostitutes). None of the gospels mentions homosexuality in any way.

Oh yeah there is isn't there?  I remember that.  The Greek word doesn't literally mean homosexuals, it is an euphemism which creates uncertainty.

[Warspite]

The Bible is an excellent example of what happens when you base policy on documents drafted by multiple stakeholders with sequential rounds of modification with no overall guidance, and don't even have a readable executive summary.

[garbon]

Anyway, the point is that there *is* a line in the Bible that commands killing of unbelievers. And it comes from the same set of books many Christians use to condemn homosexuality, for example, so you can't also claim this part of the Bible is uniformly ignored by Christians.

Agreed though homosexuality is also decried in many parts of the NT.

Not many. Just in one spot in the letters of St. Paul which are secondary and there is also a big debate over the translation (many believe the passage refers to male prostitutes). None of the gospels mentions homosexuality in any way.

Not quite true. There's a pretty explicit mention in Romans (where you even have lesbians mentioned). I am assuming you a referring to 1 Corinthians? There's also a mention in I believe 1 Timothy.

Sure those aren't the gospels but then the NT is more than just those. Sodom does get a shout-out in the gospels though.

[alfred russel]

The Bible is an excellent example of what happens when you base policy on documents drafted by multiple stakeholders with sequential rounds of modification with no overall guidance, and don't even have a readable executive summary.

As the best selling book in world history, I guess that it is the model to follow?

[Martinus]

Sodom wasn't about gay sex, but about laws of hospitality - even Christian Bible scholars acknowledge that.

And besides, gospels include a better basis for a jihad than for condemnation of homosexuality, with all the "I bring you a sword" etc. stuff.

[Valmy]

The secret to the Bible's commercial success was its marketing.

[Martinus]

The Bible is an excellent example of what happens when you base policy on documents drafted by multiple stakeholders with sequential rounds of modification with no overall guidance, and don't even have a readable executive summary.

As the best selling book in world history, I guess that it is the model to follow?

It worked for Game of Thrones, only with less violence and sex.

[alfred russel]

We should write a languish bible. We would have multiple origin stories. An exodus story. Tales of exile and redemption. Sav could write a poetry section like the psalms. Generations could debate what the hell Siege was trying to say.

[garbon]

On a different note, I wish instead of just being appalled Obama had been like "ISIS, We are coming for you "

[Malthus]

We should write a languish bible. We would have multiple origin stories. An exodus story. Tales of exile and redemption. Sav could write a poetry section like the psalms. Generations could debate what the hell Siege was trying to say.

The parables involving Nazi raccoons would be particularly significant.

[alfred russel]

We should write a languish bible. We would have multiple origin stories. An exodus story. Tales of exile and redemption. Sav could write a poetry section like the psalms. Generations could debate what the hell Siege was trying to say.

The parables involving Nazi raccoons would be particularly significant.

Especially with the follow on commentary by the Brain. I'm not sure whether he should be prevented from updating the noah's arc story, or required to.

"And the arc was set adrift for 40 days and 40 nights. It was a long 40 days and 40 nights, with little to occupy Noah's time. He had the needs of a man, and his wife was not putting out. It was not long before he noticed a particularly muscular baboon, gazing at him from across the deck..."