Butthurt guy whines about Canada's warship names

[Ideologue]

Repeated wars of conquest for the entire 19th century?

It's how the West was won, wasn't it? Ethnic cleansing backed up by military force? Is it a mischaracterization to describe it as a war of conquest?

Of course it is, since they were not wars, and there weren't any foreign nations to conquer in "repeated wars of conquest for the entire 19th century".

It's a good thing no nations were conquered on the way to the Pacific.

[katmai]

Damn the white man.

[Ed Anger]

Ohio is thankfully Indian free.

But not beaner free. 

[katmai]

Ohio is thankfully Indian free.

But not beaner free. 

We are reclaiming our lands!

[Ed Anger]

Ohio is thankfully Indian free.

But not beaner free. 

We are reclaiming our lands!

Stop reading Shadowrun sourcebooks.

[katmai]

But I wanna be a street samurai!

[Ideologue]

Katmai is aggressively redefining Aztlan.

[Ed Anger]

But I wanna be a street samurai!

Who sleeps in Internet cafes.

[Admiral Yi]

If you believe that was what the struggles on the Great Plains (and the Columbia River drainage) was about you have read some slanted works.  The actions concerning the Oregon Trail and later railroads in regions like future Wyoming were not the driving force of the military actions (and trail protection was indeed part of the this region's actions).  Instead, it was the military presence due in part to settlement and economic concerns that drove the conquest.

The military presence in mining regions, settlement areas (often not according to treaties), and along the West Coast in the period from 1850-1865 bears the hallmark of military campaigns of subjugation followed by garrison and reprisals to ensure control of the region.  Utley, no hysterical claimant of genocide or the like acknowledges that they were military campaigns of conquest - conquest because of the settlement and movement of Europeans, not some fanatical military or government policy to put the Indian away.

The plains was more than the Oregon Trail, though that narrative of Whites just moving through and being attacked is as useful now as it was then.

The slanted book I've read is Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

The forts established in the Missouri River basin were not, to the best of my knowledge, set up to protect mining operations or agricultural settlements.  The Great Plains were considered a desert until the invention of the steel plow.

[PDH]

Street samurais hang out at the corner of Home Depot.

[PDH]

What about the mining operations in the Rockies, the settlements in the Columbia, the riches of the Coast?  They were all protected by military forts and aggressive shows of force to pacify the Indians.  And to the contrary,  the forts of the Plains (though you are right, not the High Plains) were to protect settlement in Iowa, Minnesota, the Eastern Dakotas, Kansas in the pre Civil War period...

While Wyoming and Montana were roads to elsewhere (at least until the post Civil War period and the discoveries of gold in the Rockies), the whole Great Plains was military involved to protect settlement and economic interests.

The area is vast, and to take the 1830-1850 Missouri/Platte or Missouri/Yellowstone forts as defining is rather narrow.

[Ed Anger]

Street samurais hang out at the corner of Home Depot.

Hey esse, we'll kill your neighbor for 20 dollars and an El Paso Taco Kit.

[Sophie Scholl]

Nuyen, Ed.  20 Nuyen.

[Admiral Yi]

What about the mining operations in the Rockies, the settlements in the Columbia, the riches of the Coast?  They were all protected by military forts and aggressive shows of force to pacify the Indians.  And to the contrary,  the forts of the Plains (though you are right, not the High Plains) were to protect settlement in Iowa, Minnesota, the Eastern Dakotas, Kansas in the pre Civil War period...

While Wyoming and Montana were roads to elsewhere (at least until the post Civil War period and the discoveries of gold in the Rockies), the whole Great Plains was military involved to protect settlement and economic interests.

The area is vast, and to take the 1830-1850 Missouri/Platte or Missouri/Yellowstone forts as defining is rather narrow.

You'll notice I purposely started out limiting my discussion to the Great Plains.  I know things were different in Colorado, Utah, and the Pacific Northwest.

[Ed Anger]

Nuyen, Ed.  20 Nuyen.