McDonalds: "What, my peon, you don't work two full time jobs?"

[Admiral Yi]

Sounds to me like your root cause analysis presupposes a policy outcome.

[grumbler]

I disagree.  Wubya's major domestic policy initiatives were tax reduction, Medicare drugs, and No Child Left Behind.  None of those were involved demonization.  Who could they possibly have demonized? 

Corrrect.  The Left didn't demonize Dubya.  They should have, over Medicare Part D, which was incredibly irresponsibly handled and funded, but they didn't.

Under Obama the opposition's principle fights have been reducing the deficit, holding tax rates down, rolling back Obamacare, holding off gun control, and holding off illegal immigrant amnesty.  If the first four involved demonization, it didn't register on my radar (don't watch Fox and don't listen to RW shock jocks), and I'm hard pressed to see how you create a villain for those four.

"Death panels," "taxed enough already," "Obama decided to shut the government down," "show us the birth certificate" (and then "it was faked"), "Obama is a Muslim," "they wanna take our guns away," "buy ammo while it's still legal," "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, the Benghazi witch hunt, etc.  Plenty of demonization to go around.

[Razgovory]

Yi is always full of surprises.

[Ideologue]

There's nothing wrong with demonization.  It motivates people to act, whether those acts be passive resistance (strikes and voting) or active (protests and pipe bombs).  Demonization of the enemy is not only natural, it's practically necessary; otherwise why would you fight?

It is worse when it involves lies, but I am unsure that any lies are being used on the left.

[Admiral Yi]

Yi is always full of surprises.

[Admiral Yi]

There's nothing wrong with demonization.  It motivates people to act, whether those acts be passive resistance (strikes and voting) or active (protests and pipe bombs).  Demonization of the enemy is not only natural, it's practically necessary; otherwise why would you fight?

It is worse when it involves lies, but I am unsure that any lies are being used on the left.

Would you say the same thing if you were one of those being demonized?

[Berkut]

A root cause analysis of the problem of minimum wage not equaling a living wage would be to determine why the minimum wage has been insufficiently increased.

That is some clever obfuscation there.

The root cause for why the min wage does to equal a living wage is because it was never intended to do so, hence it should not come as any great surprise that it does not now, nor has it ever.

I am not sure where this recent demand that the minimum wage be enough to raise a family on came from, but it is certainly VERY recent. Not even a decade ago was there any such claim that it was the case, and certainly 20 so odd years ago (when I was earning minimum wage) was there any even theoretical notion that it should pay me a living wage on 40 hours a week.

[Razgovory]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_wage

I've always thought of the 19th century as within the last 10 years.

[Ideologue]

There's nothing wrong with demonization.  It motivates people to act, whether those acts be passive resistance (strikes and voting) or active (protests and pipe bombs).  Demonization of the enemy is not only natural, it's practically necessary; otherwise why would you fight?

It is worse when it involves lies, but I am unsure that any lies are being used on the left.

Would you say the same thing if you were one of those being demonized?

If?  I'm an entitled Millennial, remember?

[Admiral Yi]

If?  I'm an entitled Millennial, remember?

  Nothing is your fault.  You're a victim.

[Ideologue]

That's not at all what I just said and you know it.

[Admiral Yi]

I thought you did.  Please explain.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_wage

I've always thought of the 19th century as within the last 10 years.

That article and concept has nothing to do with minimum wage.

[Ideologue]

Being part of a demonized group hardly absolves one of personal responsibility, or relieve the group of its the social responsibilities.

All I said was that Millennials are demonized (including often by other Millennials, but largely by Gen Xers who know which side their bread is buttered on, and Boomers).  As a Millennial, then, I am demonized.

I'm also demonized for being a socialist and an atheist.

You often call me a Hillbilly too.

[Admiral Yi]

In what way are you and other Millennials demonized?