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#81
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Legbiter - January 15, 2026, 04:46:36 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on January 15, 2026, 10:36:54 AMThe indications from France and Sweden are that the contingents they are sending right now are just advance teams to coordinate with the Danes and prep for the arrival of additional forces.  I assume it's similar for others.

Yeah those are liaison and logistics officers who will scout out locations and based on their recommendations a force package will be put together. It's not about cramming 50.000 Canadian and European arctic troops into Nuuk by next week. The number of different countries is meant to be symbolic though, to show that Denmark is not alone in repelling any hostile aggression by...China and russia. These will be followed by land, sea and air assets. Some kind of rotating system among the allies for all domains will be set up. Greenland will have anti-ship missiles, aircraft, sub patrols and land forces. Hell, bring in a dedicated Ukrainian drone team or two and have them train in that enviornment.
#82
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Zoupa - January 15, 2026, 04:38:32 PM
russians tried to hit a Bandera monument in Lviv. Of course they missed because they suck. But look at the dude on the right of the video. He shoveling snow. Iranian drone hits maybe 30 meters from him, burning debris lands maybe 3 meters from him. Waits about 3 seconds. Keeps on shoveling  :lol:

Good luck trying to conquer them, russia.

#83
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by The Brain - January 15, 2026, 04:36:51 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 15, 2026, 04:05:19 PMWhen you mean "go to war", where do you draw the line?

Is leaving a tripwire force there and instructing them to fight back until they are forced to surrender "going to war" and thus unwise in your view?

Publicly say that a state of war exists, sending reinforcements to Greenland to fight back, taking US military personnel in Denmark prisoner, that type of thing.
#84
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Zoupa - January 15, 2026, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 15, 2026, 12:44:47 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on January 14, 2026, 10:57:53 PMIt depends what you mean by leverage, since Trump is kind of a sociopath and doesn't respond to normal social cues and pressure.

Generic leverage.  Something that  would cause him to alter what he would otherwise do.

I think Minnesotans have leverage since a pretty big majority of the state's citizens disagree with ICE's methods. Strikes, civil disobedience, protests, violence are all potential options to confront Trump's agenda and make him back down.

I think Greenland/Denmark/EU partners have leverage in terms of economic retaliation, military escalation and US public opinion to confront Trump's agenda and make him back down.

Of course as I mentioned I think your president is unhinged, suffering from dementia and is a narcissistic sociopath so who knows if he views any of this as leverage.
#85
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Zanza - January 15, 2026, 04:08:17 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 15, 2026, 02:59:14 PMThis is pretty wild if true:

QuoteTrump Is Keeping Money From Venezuelan Oil Sale in Offshore Account

President Trump is keeping proceeds from the first sale of Venezuelan oil in an offshore bank account based in Qatar, according to reporting from Semafor. The sale was worth $500 million.

This unprecedented move is yet another middle finger to Venezuelan sovereignty and once again raises questions about the president's cozy relationship with the Qatari government.

"There is no basis in law for a president to set up an offshore account that he controls so that he can sell assets seized by the American military," Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren told Semafor. "That is precisely a move that a corrupt politician would be attracted to."

That seems to be exactly what Trump is doing. Trump has vowed to "indefinitely" control Venezuela's oil, claiming the proceeds will be given back to the U.S. and Venezuela.

Still, it remains unclear just how that money held in Qatar will benefit the Venezuelan people the administration claims to care about.

https://newrepublic.com/post/205327/trump-money-venezuelan-oil-sale-account
How is that wild? Seems to be a fairly usual move for dictators to stash some money abroad in a friendly country in case they have to go into exile.
#86
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Oexmelin - January 15, 2026, 04:06:27 PM
QuoteDonald Trump Gripes About 2026 Midterms, Saying, 'When You Think of It, We Shouldn't Even Have an Election'


https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-midterm-elections-cancel-leavitt-white-house-11368056

Only joking, of course. Such a jokester.
#87
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Jacob - January 15, 2026, 04:05:19 PM
When you mean "go to war", where do you draw the line?

Is leaving a tripwire force there and instructing them to fight back until they are forced to surrender "going to war" and thus unwise in your view?
#88
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Grey Fox - January 15, 2026, 03:43:52 PM
Maybe Dems should hammer the message that if they don't win, war is coming.
#89
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Valmy - January 15, 2026, 03:26:29 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 15, 2026, 03:01:24 PMSo assuming for a moment that the midterms go ahead without too much interference, how are they shaping up in terms of the two houses?

I'm assuming there's a decent chance that the House of Representatives would swing to the Dems. What does the Senate look like?

There are some opportunities in the Senate but it far from a liklihood. Ohio, North Carolina, Maine, Alaska and defend everything successfully. That would do it. Is that likely? Nope. But possible. We have to gain four with JD Vance around. Just defending our seats will be tough enough,

Obviously if the Democrats win anywhere else that would be a huge deal.

#90
Off the Record / Re: Facebook Follies of Friend...
Last post by Tamas - January 15, 2026, 03:05:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 15, 2026, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 15, 2026, 02:51:10 PMNo the problem is that the murderer was an immigrant, a Somali to make it even worse, ergo liberal policies of not kicking colour people out have led to murder ergo the Left has no moral grounds to complain about ICE head-shotting people.

No white person has ever committed a murder before?

The guy was just an immigrant, not even illegal.

Oh and Trump was President when this crime was committed. Just saying.

I am not saying it's rational, I am just explaining what it is.