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#41
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by The Brain - Today at 04:37:45 AMHow does this situation compare to various kinds of DNA testing?
#42
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 04:03:35 AMQuote from: The Brain on Today at 03:33:03 AMA general observation: many US government organizations have historically been heavy hitters globally, their regulations and assessments have carried some weight worldwide in many industries. That prestige is starting to evaporate, since US government is a joke now.
The CDC was the gold standard. Now they post antivax stuff on their website.
#43
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 04:02:30 AMI'm not sure why the Department of Labor has someone tweeting out these things in the first place. Is NASA going to start tweeting about manifest destiny next? The Parks Service about the Monroe doctrine?
#44
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - Today at 03:44:30 AMJesus Christ man.
I mean fuck that rapist guy but that is some pretty blood chilling shit.
We are all going to have to choose to live in the dark ages just to avoid constant control and monitoring aren't we?
Granted even if the government couldn't do that without a warrant, everybody else can already do it so maybe it doesn't really make that much of a difference. It is always just depressing to be reminded of it.
I mean fuck that rapist guy but that is some pretty blood chilling shit.
We are all going to have to choose to live in the dark ages just to avoid constant control and monitoring aren't we?
Granted even if the government couldn't do that without a warrant, everybody else can already do it so maybe it doesn't really make that much of a difference. It is always just depressing to be reminded of it.
#45
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 03:41:06 AMQuote from: Zoupa on Today at 02:32:41 AM
What the hell? Those have never been central tenents of the American Way of Life. Maybe the God thing. Pride in our homeland! Obedience to the Law! Those sound like the sort of tenents immigrants once came here to escape.
#46
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by The Brain - Today at 03:33:03 AMA general observation: many US government organizations have historically been heavy hitters globally, their regulations and assessments have carried some weight worldwide in many industries. That prestige is starting to evaporate, since US government is a joke now.
#48
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 02:03:00 AMLe chiot n'apprécie pas lorsqu'on lui met le nez dans son caca.
#49
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 01:56:40 AMQuote from: Zoupa on Today at 01:25:16 AMI guess Tel-Aviv is a no-go zone for Jews if we go by Raz's logic...
Your logic is unassailable.
#50
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 01:49:36 AMQuote from: Zoupa on Today at 01:25:16 AMI guess Tel-Aviv is a no-go zone for Jews if we go by Raz's logic...
I don't know what it is about football ultras and the far-right, I genuinely don't see the connection. There are of course left-leaning football clubs, but the discrepancy is jarring in the numbers.
Btw Hapoel Tel Aviv is one of those left-leaning clubs, with Hapoel meaning worker and the hammer and sickle badge.
IMO it is that football ultras engage in the kind of ultra-masculinity, symbolic imagery use, and pseudo-militant behaviour that the far-right also loves. There's also a gang-like sense of loyalty and omerta which is very useful for anti-establishment organization (be it gang based or political).
Back in the day (I want to say 80s and 90s) there was some genuine and impactful anti-fascist organization on the terraces. I don't want to make sweeping statements, but it's my impression that the prevalence of far-right ultras was much lower in those days.
It seems that in the West leftist politics appeal less to testosterone adrenaline aficionados and working class aesthetic fanciers than it did in the past for a variety of reasons. We've discussed this at length in the past, and I suspect that the overlaps that exist between football ultras and the far right are part of that process.
Similarly, I've come across stories in several countries about the overlap between MMA culture and far right organizations and recruitment. I think that's part of the same general trend.