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#41

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 10:20:40 AM

I've been saying for many years that cancel culture can work both ways, and has historically sometimes been applied against the left.  That's why it helps to view things with some principles, rather than a quick glance of who gets shafted today.

Indeed, which is why I was always against cancel culture. It is slightly different when they are afraid of being cancelled by the state vs. just social pressure though.

I generally agree with you, but would contend that that the difference is far more than slight.

In fact, the state should not be allowed to cancel people.

Agreed, and as we have debated over the years, this is the fundamental misunderstanding people have a freedom expression rights.

#42

Off the Record / Re: The Population Decline Thr...

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 10:15:57 AM

Parents have never had so much leisure time ...

Leisure choice, sure. Time, no way.

Back when I was a kid only a minority of women worked. What one member of the family once did, now has to be split between both parents, on top of their jobs plus commute.
Letting the kids roam the streets is no longer acceptable, either. Which is how my dad was raised even as part of the upper-middle class in the 60s.

There is no doubt that many women worked in the home, but I think the point you were missing is that those women really did work in the home. They actually did all the cooking. They actually did all the cleaning etc etc etc.  And here's the key point they actually did all of those things without any of the conveniences that create leisure time now.

Just the day-to-day tasks of doing the dishes, laundry, and cooking are so much easier and less time consuming now.

If there is a person who stays home now, they have so much more free time than their counterpart. I've only 30 or 40 years ago.

The argument that it's harder to have children now to my ears simply ridiculous when I remember how hard my parents and grandparents had it.


As her children going out and playing on their own, yes, I made that point here many times.  And one of the reasons we did that is because our parents were busy doing other things they had no time to see our entertainment.


Parents are not forced to become hover craft around their children.  That is an unfortunate consequence of parents now having far more leisure time.

#43

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 10:01:47 AM

Very odd to use the United States terminology "liberal" in the Canadian context.

The article is about why the NDP can't be taken seriously.  That is a very different thing from the American concept of liberals not having political power here.

#44

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by HVC - Today at 09:55:01 AM

Huh, guess there was a glitch in the system, i was able to read it so assumed it wasn't pay walled, but not anymore

Another link

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/federal-ndp-kicks-off-leadership-campaign-with-eyebrow-raising-rule-for-eligibility/

According to the official campaign rules, the entry fee is $100,000, and to get their name on the ballot, hopefuls must gather signatures from 500 party members.


"At least 50 per cent of the total required signatures must come from members who do not identify as a cis man," it says in the official leadership rules.

Western liberals have the knack for taking laudable goals and implementing the most tone deaf self defeating means of achieving them.

As for carney, he's still doing well, I think. The usual dissenting voices are still there, but they would still be there even if the voice of god himself boomed out that carney was the 2nd coming of Christ. Mr. P  slithered out a few weeks ago when Carney backed off from the retaliatory tariffs. Everyone hating the US (sorry) is still floating Carney.

#45

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by Valmy - Today at 09:40:14 AM

Shit like this is why western liberals are fucked.

*edit* I'm all for more diversity in politics, but this is a short sighted way to go about it.

I can't read the article. Paywalled.

However, business as usual complacency is killing us in most mainstream parties. Biden and Democrats came to power with a mandate to save the Republic, did a bunch of half measures, and then left power meekly in 2022 in the House and the Senate and White House in 2024. And look at Labour fucking it all up in Britain. So the NDP having a bunch of pathetic priorities in the face of a global crisis isn't surprising.

Speaking of which...how are the Liberals doing in Canada? I have frankly been too scared to check.

#46

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 09:30:14 AM

The people around Keir Starmer really don't like Diane Abbott:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/15/senior-starmer-adviser-paul-ovenden-quits-over-offensive-diane-abbott-messages

Maybe for just one day they could leave Britain's first black female MP alone

#47

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 08:31:28 AM

Like most wars, all sides lost, some more than others.

I wouldn't say even the Taliban won - there were in control when the war started and managed to get back to where they started, but they took quite a bit of damage in the interim.

#48

Off the Record / Re: The Population Decline Thr...

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 08:28:38 AM

But I did my part.

Yeah same. My 3 sisters and me have 10 children in total between us.

Yeah depopulation is a concern and in Europe it's not going to be solved by non-Western migroids because they are in large part unemployable low-human capital and just further burden social services. Maybe the state should melt you into biofuel if you reach 65 years of age without having had at least 3 children.

#49

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 08:26:57 AM

I wasn't raising a moral principle, just pointing out an obvious hypocrisy.

Being for free speech, except when you don't like the speech, is not really being for free speech at all.

#50

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by Tamas - Today at 06:21:33 AM

Sadly it does seem like the only organised force not in cahoots with fascists in the UK is the pan-Muslims - far-left alliance.