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Title: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 05, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
Do you have any stories that you think illustrate some aspect of the 'modern world' we live in ?

Part of a Sikh family, mother, her two sons and uncle are out in Manchester, the boys father was killed by the Taliban in Afghanistan a 11 years earlier, so they fled to Britain, I presume to join up with part of their extended family.

So it's about 10.30 pm and they're on the way home from the temple, when their car is hit by a speeding car, it kills the mother, the uncle and critically injures the younger brother.

The refugee 16 year old boy is now the head of the family, care of the Taliban and a young rising premiership football star, our world.



Story comes from a programme about speeding and inappropriate driving amongst the young, worth watching if you can:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01s50lw/Licence_to_Kill/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01s50lw/Licence_to_Kill/)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: katmai on May 05, 2013, 07:47:00 PM
Why did you hit them you ass.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: 11B4V on May 05, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 05, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
Do you have any stories that you think illustrate some aspect of the 'modern world' we live in ?

I dont get it.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: sbr on May 05, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Why were you driving, I thought you only rode a bike.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 05, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 05, 2013, 07:47:00 PM
Why did you hit them you ass.

Languish at it's best/worst, go for the typo rather than the story/comment.    :hmm:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 05, 2013, 08:14:30 PM
Alongside Timmay, I'm more interested in stories that illustrate some aspect of life outside of this world we live in.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Razgovory on May 05, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
I don't live in this world.  I live in a carefully constructed separate reality where people don't avert their eyes when I walk into the room.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 05, 2013, 08:25:25 PM
Details here, he was sentenced to 16 months in prison, presumably up to half of that released on a tag:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285986/Courtney-Meppen-Walter-Manchester-City-star-killed-siblings-showboating-Mercedes-cries-hes-jailed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285986/Courtney-Meppen-Walter-Manchester-City-star-killed-siblings-showboating-Mercedes-cries-hes-jailed.html)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 05, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 05, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
Do you have any stories that you think illustrate some aspect of the 'modern world' we live in ?

Throg build fire. Throg put fire on stick. Throg use stick chase off bear.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 09:31:50 PM
This World is filled with too many weirdo mongers threads.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 05, 2013, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 09:31:50 PM
This World is filled with too many weirdo mongers threads.

You want wall to wall Timmay instead ?   :hmm:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 05, 2013, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 09:31:50 PM
This World is filled with too many weirdo mongers threads.

You want wall to wall Timmay instead ?   :hmm:

What are you trying to get to with this thread, though?  The absurdity of life?

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Title: Re: This World.
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Some things never change.

QuoteA soccer referee who was allegedly punched in the face by a teenage player and slipped into a coma has died.

Ricardo Portillo, 46, had been in critical condition since the April 27 incident and passed away Saturday night, according to the Unified Police Department of Greater Salt Lake in Utah.

Authorities will consider additional charges against the 17-year-old suspect this week since the referee died, police said in a statement.

Lt. Justin Hoyle with the Salt Lake Unified Police Department said that Portillo was a refereeing a game at Eisenhower Junior High, in Taylorsville, Utah, last weekend when he flagged the teen for a foul.

"He made a call against a player that he was unhappy with, and gave him a yellow card, so the 17-year-old turned and punched him in face," Hoyle told ABCNews.com.

Portillo was transported to the hospital with what were at first believed to be minor injuries, but the referee soon went into a coma, Hoyle said.

The suspect was arrested Monday and brought to Salt Lake Valley Detention Center, where he has remained in custody, according to police. His name has not been released because he is a minor.

Portillo's daughter Johana told reporters earlier this week that she is heartbroken over the attack on her dad. She said this is not the first time he has been attacked on the soccer field.

"Last Saturday when we got called we thought it wasn't that serious, we thought, 'OK, they're going to call and we'll have to go get him out again and he's going to be OK,' but it wasn't like that," she said. "This person caused us a lot of pain."
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:33:53 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 05, 2013, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 05, 2013, 09:31:50 PM
This World is filled with too many weirdo mongers threads.

You want wall to wall Timmay instead ?   :hmm:

What are you trying to get to with this thread, though?  The absurdity of life?


No.

Two different forms of terrorism ? 
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Why don't you start some of your own threads instead of complaining all the time.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2013, 07:37:47 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:33:53 AM
No.

Two different forms of terrorism ? 

How is an automobile accident terrorism? :hmm:

I mean this is a tragic situation but I do not see the absurdity of it.  In the 13th century they might have fled the Mongol Hordes just to die of a plague.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:57:40 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2013, 07:37:47 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:33:53 AM
No.

Two different forms of terrorism ? 

How is an automobile accident terrorism? :hmm:

I mean this is a tragic situation but I do not see the absurdity of it.  In the 13th century they might have fled the Mongol Hordes just to die of a plague.

It's not an 'accident', people are intentionally using particularly city streets as race tracks and places to show off their speed/their blingy vehicles. This does scare and to some extent terrorise the some people and the communities within which this happens. 

In one way you can look at as young males marking or outlining their territories and indeed gang activities in a small way feed out or and into this street culture. 
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2013, 08:01:36 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:57:40 AM
It's not an 'accident', people are intentionally using particularly city streets as race tracks and places to show off their speed/their blingy vehicles. This does scare and to some extent terrorise the some people and the communities within which this happens. 

In one way you can look at as young males marking or outlining their territories and indeed gang activities in a small way feed out or and into this street culture. 

Ok that is a bit different.  But come on as far as gang cultures go this one is pretty idiotic.  They might as well hang a sign around their necks declaring 'look I am breaking the law!  Arrest me!'
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:20:04 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Why don't you start some of your own threads instead of complaining all the time.

Why don't you meet in the middle? He can do that and you can start making your threads a little less opaque. :)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2013, 08:01:36 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:57:40 AM
It's not an 'accident', people are intentionally using particularly city streets as race tracks and places to show off their speed/their blingy vehicles. This does scare and to some extent terrorise the some people and the communities within which this happens. 

In one way you can look at as young males marking or outlining their territories and indeed gang activities in a small way feed out or and into this street culture. 

Ok that is a bit different.  But come on as far as gang cultures go this one is pretty idiotic.  They might as well hang a sign around their necks declaring 'look I am breaking the law!  Arrest me!'

If you watch the film, you probably can't because of silly bbc restritctions, but it show a typical 'scene' you'd get in urban/suburban area and policing is at best very it and miss, often they'll not bother for hours or if at all, so these happenings/events have the street to themselves.

As for gangs, not sure what the point you were making, I think we're probably arguing at cross purposes.
I think all I'd say is that most areas of London, baring upmarket places like the West End, if I'm in traffic and involved in typical street 'interactions', I'll not give back my 'opinion' people in these blinged up motors, as you never know who they truly are. Safety and all.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 08:24:19 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:20:04 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Why don't you start some of your own threads instead of complaining all the time.

Why don't you meet in the middle? He can do that and you can start making your threads a little less opaque. :)

But you'd have less things to bitch about.   :(
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Don't worry, I can always find something - so you don't need to create issues for me. :)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: katmai on May 06, 2013, 08:33:36 AM
It is his superpower!
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:34:27 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 06, 2013, 08:33:36 AM
It is his superpower!

I'm just thinking this thread probably could have been better if he'd made topic/OP align with the article/incident he really wanted to talk about.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: katmai on May 06, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:34:27 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 06, 2013, 08:33:36 AM
It is his superpower!

I'm just thinking this thread probably could have been better if he'd made topic/OP align with the article/incident he really wanted to talk about.

Oh i don't disagree, but I also realize this is mongers who i don't think has ever done such a thing as make the Thread topic relevant to what he does in his OP.

:P
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 08:43:02 AM
Bitches bitch and moaners moan, it's you guys fulfilling your niche in this world; glad I could facilitate it, gives you a purpose.   :cool:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:45:40 AM
Again you miss the point. We're already doing that regardless. We don't need you to create easy targets for us and if you were serious about having non-Timmay threads on Languish, you'd be a little less lazy (/charmingly unique) when creating your threads. :)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:45:40 AM
Again you miss the point. We're already doing that regardless. We don't need you to create easy targets for us and if you were serious about having non-Timmay threads on Languish, you'd be a little less lazy (/charmingly unique) when creating your threads. :)

Well this thread is giving you a pretty good go; think of me as your personal bitchiness trainer, helping you to reach an olympic standard.  :cool: 
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 08:56:30 AM
Well I'm done repeating myself. Have a nice day. :)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: sbr on May 06, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Why don't you start some of your own threads instead of complaining all the time.

Do I complain that much?  I don't think so, maybe you are thinking of someone else.

And I do occasionally start threads, but I tend to start threads about things that have some potential for interesting debate on both sides of the matter.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
I like most mongers threads :hug:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: crazy canuck on May 06, 2013, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
I like most mongers threads :hug:

Agreed. 
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
I like most mongers threads :hug:

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 06, 2013, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
I like most mongers threads :hug:

Agreed.

Cheers guys. :cheers:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 06, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Why don't you start some of your own threads instead of complaining all the time.

Do I complain that much?  I don't think so, maybe you are thinking of someone else.

And I do occasionally start threads, but I tend to start threads about things that have some potential for interesting debate on both sides of the matter.

Wacky idea here, but if it's not your sort of thread, you could always not bothering posting in it ?   :hmm:

Better still, you start a thread that fulfils your criteria and I'll have a look, if it's not of interest to me, I'll refrain from complaining about the topic and OP. If it interests me I'll make a contribution. :cool:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: sbr on May 06, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 06, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 05, 2013, 09:24:24 PM
First the fourth line in the OP is a mess, it confused me more than helped me.

Second the typo was the most interesting part of the OP.

Third I have no idea what this is suppose to say about our 'modern world'.  Could refugees not be killed by idiot soccer players in the 1970's?  I am sure Britain had plenty of both back then too.

Why don't you start some of your own threads instead of complaining all the time.

Do I complain that much?  I don't think so, maybe you are thinking of someone else.

And I do occasionally start threads, but I tend to start threads about things that have some potential for interesting debate on both sides of the matter.

Wacky idea here, but if it's not your sort of thread, you could always not bothering posting in it ?   :hmm:

Better still, you start a thread that fulfils your criteria and I'll have a look, if it's not of interest to me, I'll refrain from complaining about the topic and OP. If it interests me I'll make a contribution. :cool:

Sounds great.  Though if I do make a thread and 2 of the first 3 posts make it clear that the typo was the most interesting part I will probably just let it sink.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: crazy canuck on May 06, 2013, 03:42:35 PM
Inquiring minds what to know why you posted at all then?
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: sbr on May 06, 2013, 04:11:58 PM
Why does anyone post anything?
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 04:36:16 PM
I post therefore I am.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Wacky idea here, but if it's not your sort of thread, you could always not bothering posting in it ?   :hmm:

Like, say, an American election thread?  :hmm:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 04:38:30 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Wacky idea here, but if it's not your sort of thread, you could always not bothering posting in it ?   :hmm:

Like, say, an American election thread?  :hmm:

:blink:

How so ?  I enjoy American politics far more than UK politics, if you took the time to look you'd see I've started a few threads on the topic, I like the subject ! :gasp:

Or are you saying non-Americans shouldn't post in them ?
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
You whined a multitude of times about the American Presidential election and why was it still going on - in election threads. :contract:

I believe you were even confronted a few times with the notion of not posting in a thread if you weren't interested.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
You whined a multitude of times about the American Presidential election and why was it still going on - in election threads. :contract:

I believe you were even confronted a few times with the notion of not posting in a thread if you weren't interested.

Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

Again if you look my threads started there are several on US politics, iirc the last one was an enthusiastic 'live comments' on the state of the union. 
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: crazy canuck on May 06, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
You whined a multitude of times about the American Presidential election and why was it still going on - in election threads. :contract:

I believe you were even confronted a few times with the notion of not posting in a thread if you weren't interested.

Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

Again if you look my threads started there are several on US politics, iirc the last one was an enthusiastic 'live comments' on the state of the union.

Yeah, its a bit overly sensitive of the Yanks to react to an observation that their politics is a continuous series of election cycles.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

I suppose that's one way you could it explain it away. Though you making the same "joke that doesn't sound like a joke" week after week strains credulity a bit.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 05:14:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

Lesson #2: if a joke doesn't elicit a positive reponse the first time, telling it again five more times will probably not improve the outcome.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

I suppose that's one way you could it explain it away. Though you making the same "joke that doesn't sound like a joke" week after week strains credulity a bit.

Could you post links to this "week after week" pattern ?
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 05:14:10 PMLesson #2: if a joke doesn't elicit a positive reponse the first time, telling it again five more times will probably not improve the outcome.

I think his jokes are pretty good :)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

I suppose that's one way you could it explain it away. Though you making the same "joke that doesn't sound like a joke" week after week strains credulity a bit.

Could you post links to this "week after week" pattern ?

No thank you.
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Joking ?   :) It's bewildering to us brits just how long it goes on.

I suppose that's one way you could it explain it away. Though you making the same "joke that doesn't sound like a joke" week after week strains credulity a bit.

Could you post links to this "week after week" pattern ?

No thank you.

So just you taking another cheap shot at another poster, whatever rocks your boat  :cool:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
I think his jokes are pretty good :)

:)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2013, 07:36:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 06, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
So just you taking another cheap shot at another poster, whatever rocks your boat  :cool:

Yep, just like Yi was. :)
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: grumbler on May 07, 2013, 06:57:47 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
I think his jokes are pretty good :)

:)
That's what I like about Jake:  for him, every post is interesting and and every joke is funny. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: crazy canuck on May 07, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 07, 2013, 06:57:47 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 06, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
I think his jokes are pretty good :)

:)
That's what I like about Jake:  for him, every post is interesting and and every joke is funny. :thumbsup:

And yet another useful contribution by Grumbles.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Razgovory on May 07, 2013, 11:48:44 AM
Kiss of Death. :pinch:
Title: Re: This World.
Post by: Jacob on May 07, 2013, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: grumbler on May 07, 2013, 06:57:47 AMThat's what I like about Jake:  for him, every post is interesting and and every joke is funny. :thumbsup:

:lol:

Not true at all. There are plenty of posts I ignore, and some posters whom I just scroll by whenever I see them. Lots of worthless stuff.

I did like this one post of yours, though; it was funny :hug: