Languish.org

General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Martinus on April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM

Title: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Martinus on April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM
Apparently child abuse and other crimes are ubiquitous there. Why won't Britain or Australia just claim the island and put perpetrators in prison?
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Valmy on April 25, 2013, 08:28:52 AM
Aren't there like 50 people on that island?  I suspect we tolerate because it is so remote and insignificant.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Razgovory on April 25, 2013, 08:29:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM
Apparently child abuse and other crimes are ubiquitous there. Why won't Britain or Australia just claim the island and put perpetrators in prison?

What the hell are you talking about?  It's an island with like 50 people on it.  And it's already owned by Britain.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:31:28 AM
Well, britain did fly in a court, hold a trial, build a prison and issue a new constitution. Short of quartering red-coats in homes with children, what do you want them to do?
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Lettow77 on April 25, 2013, 08:32:49 AM
Was this created completely to throw the numbers for the "What contrived problem will Martinus feel outraged over next" pool?
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Malthus on April 25, 2013, 08:35:24 AM
What do you expect from the descendants of mutineers?

:pirate
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Razgovory on April 25, 2013, 08:38:43 AM
I do wonder what Marty read that provoked this.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: PDH on April 25, 2013, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:31:28 AM
Well, britain did fly in a court, hold a trial, build a prison and issue a new constitution. Short of quartering red-coats in homes with children, what do you want them to do?

They didn't fly in anyone.  Pitcairn doesn't have an airport or a suitable place for a harbor.  Instead the islanders ferry in people on a nice big lifeboat kind of thing.  Yeah, I saw it in 1987, none of us went ashore it was too stormy there - we just sailed off.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Tamas on April 25, 2013, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM
Apparently child abuse and other crimes are ubiquitous there. Why won't Britain or Australia just claim the island and put perpetrators in prison?

maybe they should direct a few movies to gain acceptance
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:43:52 AM
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2013, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:31:28 AM
Well, britain did fly in a court, hold a trial, build a prison and issue a new constitution. Short of quartering red-coats in homes with children, what do you want them to do?

They didn't fly in anyone.  Pitcairn doesn't have an airport or a suitable place for a harbor.  Instead the islanders ferry in people on a nice big lifeboat kind of thing.  Yeah, I saw it in 1987, none of us went ashore it was too stormy there - we just sailed off.

OK, they sailed in a court... that is just so much more of an effort.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Josquius on April 25, 2013, 08:44:47 AM
What viking says, they don't tolerate it, it was a huge scandal, a pretty major court case.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: garbon on April 25, 2013, 08:46:44 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on April 25, 2013, 08:32:49 AM
Was this created completely to throw the numbers for the "What contrived problem will Martinus feel outraged over next" pool?

:)
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: PDH on April 25, 2013, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:43:52 AM
OK, they sailed in a court... that is just so much more of an effort.

That was my point.  It is incredibly remote, when the allegations in the early 2000s were found out there were trials and all that.  There may well be more problems now, but that very remoteness makes things far harder.

Maybe they can airdrop in the Polish Gay Legal Justice team, I don't know.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: fhdz on April 25, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 25, 2013, 08:38:43 AM
I do wonder what Marty read that provoked this.

I bet someone insulted a gay person there.
Title: Re: Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?
Post by: Viking on April 25, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 25, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 25, 2013, 08:38:43 AM
I do wonder what Marty read that provoked this.

I bet someone insulted a gay person there.

Probably found out that Fletcher Christian

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.voote.com%2Fimages%2F00069%2FReg.6963.14.jpg&hash=8fd9e9796a231d554301e7113dfae1562139b7dd)

wasn't ghey.