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Title: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
He's claiming 51% of the vote. Considering his structural advantage, state backing and massive propaganda machinethis means the election was stolen.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 01:31:41 AM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22149202#TWEET723733
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Razgovory on April 15, 2013, 01:37:33 AM
I think that's how the Republicans decided that Acorn Stole the election for Obama last year.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 01:42:44 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 15, 2013, 01:46:03 AM
What did the exit polls say?
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Razgovory on April 15, 2013, 01:51:23 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 01:42:44 AM
:rolleyes:

I'd like some proof that he cheated before I condemn him.  Concluding he won therefore he cheated seems silly to me.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: dps on April 15, 2013, 11:04:11 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 15, 2013, 01:51:23 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 01:42:44 AM
:rolleyes:

I'd like some proof that he cheated before I condemn him.  Concluding he won therefore he cheated seems silly to me.

If he cheated and lost, he didn't do it right!
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 15, 2013, 11:18:32 AM
Better that Maduro won.  That whole system is on the verge of a nasty breakdown.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Valmy on April 15, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
If he only claimed 51% and stole it I applaud his restraint.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: derspiess on April 15, 2013, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 15, 2013, 11:18:32 AM
Better that Maduro won.  That whole system is on the verge of a nasty breakdown.

Good point.  I have no idea where the chips will fall, but there seems to be some serious factionalization just within the Chavista ranks.  Who knows, we could have a three-way conflict between the militia, army, and the huge well-armed gangs before it's all over.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Viking on April 15, 2013, 11:32:01 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 15, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
If he only claimed 51% and stole it I applaud his restraint.

That what Chavez did for the referendum. Cheated up to 51% to make it look realistic.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: derspiess on April 15, 2013, 01:06:54 PM
I think the recount, if it happens, should be based upon which guy wore more variations of Venezuelan track suits and hats throughout the campaign.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: derspiess on April 15, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
Anyway, I'm comforted to know that Maduro is such a thoughtful & pious man:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F2a4fa66546b51a8df620f83348525846%2Ftumblr_mlazqejojb1rf9hn3o1_1280.jpg&hash=3f781ca6a6ebced12ea6709082527112b7b5bc57)
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
He's a fucking Leninist, it's an act.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: derspiess on April 15, 2013, 02:30:53 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
He's a fucking Leninist, it's an act.

No shit :lol:
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Sheilbh on April 15, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
I think you've misunderstood Latin America if you think being a Catholic and a Marxist are contradictory :lol:
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Ed Anger on April 15, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
Maduro looks like a spokesman for Just for Men.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Queequeg on April 15, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
The fucker played the augur in a Catholic church. That alone is grounds for ridicule.
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: derspiess on April 15, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 15, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
I think you've misunderstood Latin America if you think being a Catholic and a Marxist are contradictory :lol:

True, but the Catholic thing seems to be show in this particular case (and in Chavez's).
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Sheilbh on April 15, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 15, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
True, but the Catholic thing seems to be show in this particular case (and in Chavez's).
Maybe, I mean we can't see into their souls. But in fairness Catholicism's more showy :P

To me it looks more like those Catholic football players crossing themselves before a game. It could be sincere, superstitious, cultural, just a ploy to get the old lady vote or a bit of all of the above :lol:
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: derspiess on April 17, 2013, 03:38:52 PM
The US still hasn't recognized the results of the election, for whatever that's worth.  Kind of an easy one to get right, but kudos to Obama & Lurch nonetheless.

http://news.yahoo.com/capriles-distances-himself-violent-protests-venezuela-050342845.html
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Queequeg on April 17, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/17/arrest-warrants-issued-for-leaders-of-venezuelan-opposition-party.html

Fucking pricks. 
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2013, 04:35:00 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Maduro Steals Venezuelan Election
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 17, 2013, 05:36:29 PM
Chavist Venezuela is a variant on Marx's dictum that history repeats itself, first as farce, and then as an even more absurd farce.