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Title: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Syt on April 07, 2013, 11:49:54 AM
And the UK strives to become even more inoffensive.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9977214/Vegans-and-druids-to-gain-workplace-rights-under-new-equality-rules.html

QuoteVegans and druids to gain workplace rights under new equality rules

Vegetarian or vegan employees with deeply held beliefs should be allowed to exert their rights in the workplace by refusing to sit on leather chairs or clean out office fridges containing meat or dairy products, according to new guidance.

A document published for employers by the Equality and Human Rights Commission suggests that ecologists could ask to be excused from duties that increase CO2 emissions, such as flying to business meetings, and that druids and pagans should be allowed to take time off work to go on pilgrimages and attend sacred rituals.

The guidance, which also applies to Christians, Jews and Muslims and atheists, was produced after a series of judgments by the European Court of Human Rights, including the ruling that Christians can wear a cross at work.

It states that "employees may assert the right to discuss their personal beliefs in the workplace and employers should not prevent such conversations". Bosses should "consider seriously" adapting the relevant work duties to suit their employees beliefs.

It insists that such beliefs should be "more than an opinion or a viewpoint", should be genuinely and sincerely held and worthy of respect in a democratic society.

The document, Religion or Belief in the Workplace: a guide for employers, details a series of hypothetical scenarios to illustrate how such rights should be protected.

It suggests that a Christian nurse could say prayers for a patient, if it is made clear that there is no pressure or obligation on the patient to agree.

The guidance says that ecologists should be permitted to tell colleagues that it is irresponsible to drive to work because it damages the environment. They could also ask to be excused from duties that increase CO2 emissions.

Jewish workers should be allowed to leave the workplace early on a Friday to prepare for the Sabbath, if it does not adversely affect other members of their team.

Requests by Muslims to take time off to attend prayers at a local mosque should also be serious considered.

Religious workers should be allowed to wear symbols such as crosses and clothing such as hijabs or turbans, the document suggests. They should also be allowed to have a beard if it is considered integral to their belief system.

It advises that religious people may also seek to promote their beliefs so long as this is not intimidating, hostile or offensive to others, and that leaflets can be distributed.

The document comes three months after a Christian airline check-in clerk won the right to wear a cross at work in a landmark case that was expected to define religious freedom in Britain and across Europe.

The Strasbourg court concluded that the UK had failed to protect the rights of Nadia Eweida, a British Airways check-in clerk who was sent home because the small cross she wore contravened the airline's uniform policy – a policy which has since been changed.

The Vegetarian Society welcomed the guidance, saying that it gave official recognition that "vegetarianism can be and indeed often is a deeply held belief".

However, the Keith Wood, executive director of the National Secular Society, told The Sunday Times: "It is not (a) nurse's job to pray any more than it is to advance political or environmental opinions."

Mark Hammond, chief executive of the EHRC, said: "The right of people to express their religious belief is a vital freedom guaranteed by the European convention on human rights."
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Ed Anger on April 07, 2013, 11:50:57 AM
Ugh. Vegans.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: garbon on April 07, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
QuoteThe guidance says that ecologists should be permitted to tell colleagues that it is irresponsible to drive to work because it damages the environment. They could also ask to be excused from duties that increase CO2 emissions.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Legbiter on April 07, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
Makes sense if vegans are ritually polluted by leather, meat and dairy.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2013, 12:23:41 PM
It makes a lot of sense, given British shame and self-hatred.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Viking on April 07, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on April 07, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
Makes sense if vegans are ritually polluted by leather, meat and dairy.

My Qi is ritually polluted by the presence of Vegans in my vincinity. Vegans must be banned.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Legbiter on April 07, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 07, 2013, 12:24:38 PM


My Qi is ritually polluted by the presence of Vegans in my vincinity. Vegans must be banned.

It's just a phase for most of them.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: HVC on April 07, 2013, 12:40:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd4YgudTcnM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd4YgudTcnM)
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Martinus on April 07, 2013, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 07, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
QuoteThe guidance says that ecologists should be permitted to tell colleagues that it is irresponsible to drive to work because it damages the environment. They could also ask to be excused from duties that increase CO2 emissions.

:rolleyes:

This is so stupid. Rather than this, we should be telling people that if their beliefs conflict with their job, they should either change their beliefs or their jobs, not get special rules made specifically for them.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2013, 12:57:25 PM
This is so stupid. Rather than this, we should be telling people that if their beliefs conflict with their job, they should either change their beliefs or their jobs, not get special rules made specifically for them.
:lol:
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 07, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
next up: aztecs allowed to make human sacrifices
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Ideologue on April 07, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
The "not sit in leather chairs"  I can get behind, as it is pretty uncomfortable and is unlikely to be a core or even peripheral retirement of any job, other than perhaps "leather chair artisan."  However, there's also nothing in my belief system that makes me ritually unclean if I must throw away somebody's old hoagie.  A exemption from duties that "increase CO2 emissions" (which I'm pretty sure amounts to "fucking anything") is truly bizarre.

And of course, one suspects these coddled cocksuckers wouldn't know shit about actually doing a job that conflicts with their beliefs, i.e. being part of the process of providing meat for people to eat and preparing, touching, tastefully arranging, and selling animal products for up to ten hours a day.  So my advice to them would be to go back to their Internet start-ups and marketing firms and reflect upon what pussies they are rather than complain about the near-zero disagreeable work they actually have to do in any given day.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Syt on April 07, 2013, 02:06:57 PM
Actually, there's plenty Muslim cashiers in Vienna who'll regularly have to handle alcohol and non-halal food in the supermarket.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Viking on April 07, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on April 07, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 07, 2013, 12:24:38 PM


My Qi is ritually polluted by the presence of Vegans in my vincinity. Vegans must be banned.

It's just a phase for most of them.

There is nothing wrong with them that a bit of bacon cannot fix.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 07, 2013, 02:17:46 PM
We live in a brave new world when people who want to reduce CO2 emissions are labeled ecologists.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: mongers on April 07, 2013, 03:21:29 PM
Quote from: Syt on April 07, 2013, 11:49:54 AM
And the UK strives to become even more inoffensive.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9977214/Vegans-and-druids-to-gain-workplace-rights-under-new-equality-rules.html

QuoteVegans and druids to gain workplace rights under new equality rules

Vegetarian or vegan employees with deeply held beliefs should be allowed to exert their rights in the workplace by refusing to sit on leather chairs or clean out office fridges containing meat or dairy products, according to new guidance.

A document published for employers by the Equality and Human Rights Commission suggests that ecologists could ask to be excused from duties that increase CO2 emissions, such as flying to business meetings, and that druids and pagans should be allowed to take time off work to go on pilgrimages and attend sacred rituals.

The guidance, which also applies to Christians, Jews and Muslims and atheists, was produced after a series of judgments by the European Court of Human Rights, including the ruling that Christians can wear a cross at work.

It states that "employees may assert the right to discuss their personal beliefs in the workplace and employers should not prevent such conversations". Bosses should "consider seriously" adapting the relevant work duties to suit their employees beliefs.

It insists that such beliefs should be "more than an opinion or a viewpoint", should be genuinely and sincerely held and worthy of respect in a democratic society.

The document, Religion or Belief in the Workplace: a guide for employers, details a series of hypothetical scenarios to illustrate how such rights should be protected.

It suggests that a Christian nurse could say prayers for a patient, if it is made clear that there is no pressure or obligation on the patient to agree.

The guidance says that ecologists should be permitted to tell colleagues that it is irresponsible to drive to work because it damages the environment. They could also ask to be excused from duties that increase CO2 emissions.

Jewish workers should be allowed to leave the workplace early on a Friday to prepare for the Sabbath, if it does not adversely affect other members of their team.

Requests by Muslims to take time off to attend prayers at a local mosque should also be serious considered.

Religious workers should be allowed to wear symbols such as crosses and clothing such as hijabs or turbans, the document suggests. They should also be allowed to have a beard if it is considered integral to their belief system.

It advises that religious people may also seek to promote their beliefs so long as this is not intimidating, hostile or offensive to others, and that leaflets can be distributed.

The document comes three months after a Christian airline check-in clerk won the right to wear a cross at work in a landmark case that was expected to define religious freedom in Britain and across Europe.

The Strasbourg court concluded that the UK had failed to protect the rights of Nadia Eweida, a British Airways check-in clerk who was sent home because the small cross she wore contravened the airline's uniform policy – a policy which has since been changed.

The Vegetarian Society welcomed the guidance, saying that it gave official recognition that "vegetarianism can be and indeed often is a deeply held belief".

However, the Keith Wood, executive director of the National Secular Society, told The Sunday Times: "It is not (a) nurse's job to pray any more than it is to advance political or environmental opinions."

Mark Hammond, chief executive of the EHRC, said: "The right of people to express their religious belief is a vital freedom guaranteed by the European convention on human rights."

Syt, excellent April's Fool, best one I've seen this year. :cheers:
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Camerus on April 07, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
At least with "druids" and "pagans" outing themselves at work in these ways, management will know who not to promote.   :lol: 

Though on the other hand, for most of them it was likely already pretty obvious they were misfits before.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: 11B4V on April 07, 2013, 10:25:39 PM
What about the Wicker People?
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwac.450f.edgecastcdn.net%2F80450F%2Fkpel965.com%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F02%2F72267718.jpg&hash=bc503d898e4552e1116eccfcae343de468011431)
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: mongers on April 07, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 07, 2013, 10:25:39 PM
What about the Wicker People?
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwac.450f.edgecastcdn.net%2F80450F%2Fkpel965.com%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F02%2F72267718.jpg&hash=bc503d898e4552e1116eccfcae343de468011431)

They have lots of books, Therefore they Must have lots of wisdom.   ;)
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: Martinus on April 08, 2013, 04:20:08 AM
They also have a lot of fat, ugly chicks.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 08, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
That's one hell of a scary dildo on their table.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: mongers on April 08, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 08, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
That's one hell of a scary dildo on their table.

No that's what modern phones look like.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 08, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
Magaret Thatcher would drop dead in sheer digust if she got wind of this.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: derspiess on April 08, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2013, 04:20:08 AM
They also have a lot of fat, ugly chicks.

Quite true.  I suppose you need something to occupy a lot of your time if you've given up on attracting a man.
Title: Re: Vegans and druids to gain workplace rights in UK
Post by: mongers on April 08, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 08, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
Magaret Thatcher would drop dead in sheer digust if she got wind of this.

:D