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Title: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Syt on April 05, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/04/jew-in-a-box-exhibition-causes-a-stir-in-germany/?iid=nf-article-trend-now

Quote'Jew in a Box' Exhibition Causes a Stir in Germany

There are fewer than 200,000 Jews living in Germany today, out of a total population of 82 million — meaning that few Germans have any first-hand understanding of Jewish culture. But an exhibit at Berlin's Jewish Museum that attempts to combat that lack of knowledge is causing quite a stir regardless.

The show, entitled 'The Whole Truth,' consists of a Jewish man or woman, seated inside a glass box, answering visitors' questions for two hours about Jewish life and culture.

The exhibition was inspired by the many questions left in the museum's visitors book since 2001, which the curators stripped down to the thirty most commonly asked questions. These vary from politically incorrect questions about common Jewish stereotypes to a simple matter of wanting to know how to become a Jew.

For the Jewish Museum's curators the point of the exhibition is to "confront various questions about Judaism and being Jewish." Below the box a line of text reads, "Are there still Jews in Germany?"

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But reactions to the exhibition, which also includes other installations and displays, have been decidedly mixed. Speaking with the Associated Press, Stephan Kramer, a prominent figure in the Berlin Jewish community, asked, "Why don't they give him a banana and a glass of water, turn up the heat and make the Jew feel really cozy in his glass box?" Kramer said he was approached to participate but turned the offer down. Others too have described the exhibition as "degrading" and not helpful to German-Jewish relations.

Dekel Peretz, a doctoral student in Jewish German history in Potsdam, told the Guardian that he too had been fearful of being put on show as a museum piece. However his curiosity overtook his fear:

"I'm really intrigued to find out what sort of things they ask me. In many ways my everyday life is anyway a bit like living in a box, being one of few Jewish people living in Germany – your mere presence in a pub triggers debates about the Holocaust or Middle East politics – so I wasn't fazed about taking part."

The exhibitors have also published e-mail exchanges from the development process for the show, which shed light on how much they wrangled over the concept. In one exchange curator Michal Friedlander asks her colleagues a powerful question: "As a historical museum we by definition show relics of the past, but does this necessarily mean that we are showing a dead culture?"
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Martinus on April 05, 2013, 12:43:46 AM
Meh, don't really get the outrage over this. It's really an innovative way of the exhibition drawing attention to the guy who is answering questions. And it's not like they hired an actor but the guy really is Jewish.

We had a series of events in Poland recently, pretty much based on a similar concept, called "living library" where people could go to an exhibition and talk to "living books", being people from different minorities (a Jewish person, a gay person, a Buddhist, etc.) and ask them questions.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: 11B4V on April 05, 2013, 12:53:58 AM
 :lol: Those silly Germans

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http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/10/hes-back-hitler-satire-tops-germanys-bestseller-list/#ixzz2PPr1cRX1

http://www.amazon.com/Er-ist-wieder-Timur-Vermes/dp/3847905171

I may have to get this
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Syt on April 05, 2013, 02:07:06 AM
I liked the first two Walter Moers comics "Adolf die Nazi-Sau" (Adolf the Nazi-Pig), where Ladi Di turns out to have been Mengele in disguise, trying to start WW3. Though transgender, crack addicted Herman Göring as prostitute who's tasked with assassinating Kennedy (the second book contains copious time travelling).
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 06:19:52 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 05, 2013, 12:53:58 AM
:lol: Those silly Germans

The box probably has a hole in it for the carbon monoxide hook-up.  Just in case.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: garbon on April 05, 2013, 06:49:41 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 05, 2013, 12:43:46 AM
Meh, don't really get the outrage over this. It's really an innovative way of the exhibition drawing attention to the guy who is answering questions. And it's not like they hired an actor but the guy really is Jewish.

We had a series of events in Poland recently, pretty much based on a similar concept, called "living library" where people could go to an exhibition and talk to "living books", being people from different minorities (a Jewish person, a gay person, a Buddhist, etc.) and ask them questions.

*facepalm*
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Caliga on April 05, 2013, 06:55:23 AM
These guys are the next exhibit:

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Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Neil on April 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Manufacturer outrage is manufactured.  A doctoral student?  Puh-leeze.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 05, 2013, 07:38:58 AM
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Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
Nixon watches are overpriced Chinese trash.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: garbon on April 05, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Manufacturer outrage is manufactured.  A doctoral student?  Puh-leeze.

I think it has to do more with putting a minority in a box, on display to answer questions for the curious public.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Rasputin on April 05, 2013, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
Nixon watches are overpriced Chinese trash.

:hmm: I have a nixon tide watch and genuinely enjoy it. It's no corum admiral's cup maree but i paid 6500 less for the nixon than the corum which really did have problems.

why do you not like yours?
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:53:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 05, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Manufacturer outrage is manufactured.  A doctoral student?  Puh-leeze.

I think it has to do more with putting a minority in a box, on display to answer questions for the curious public.

Garbon's box gets a hamster wheel in it.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:54:57 AM
Quote from: Rasputin on April 05, 2013, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
Nixon watches are overpriced Chinese trash.

:hmm: I have a nixon tide watch and genuinely enjoy it. It's no corum admiral's cup maree but i paid 6500 less for the nixon than the corum which really did have problems.

why do you not like yours?

I don't own any Nixons, Fossils or shitty ass Diesels.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Rasputin on April 05, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:54:57 AM
Quote from: Rasputin on April 05, 2013, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
Nixon watches are overpriced Chinese trash.

:hmm: I have a nixon tide watch and genuinely enjoy it. It's no corum admiral's cup maree but i paid 6500 less for the nixon than the corum which really did have problems.

why do you not like yours?

I don't own any Nixons, Fossils or shitty ass Diesels.


nixon makes some genuinely functional non designer  watches, such as the tide watch (which tracks the diurnal tide and the moon phase a must for any boater) and in that respect is materiallly different than diesel or fossil  so STFU
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Neil on April 05, 2013, 08:02:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 05, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Manufacturer outrage is manufactured.  A doctoral student?  Puh-leeze.
I think it has to do more with putting a minority in a box, on display to answer questions for the curious public.
Exactly.  Manufactured outrage from insular retards.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Martinus on April 05, 2013, 08:08:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 05, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Manufacturer outrage is manufactured.  A doctoral student?  Puh-leeze.

I think it has to do more with putting a minority in a box, on display to answer questions for the curious public.

If it's fully consensual, so to speak, I don't really see anything wrong with it. The form of it (glass box, display) is meant to be provoking and some my find it to be in a poor taste, but there is nothing particularly outrageous there. The content (answering questions from the public) is, imo, fully kosher (pun intended) and serves an educational purpose.
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: garbon on April 05, 2013, 08:27:24 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 05, 2013, 08:08:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 05, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 05, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Manufacturer outrage is manufactured.  A doctoral student?  Puh-leeze.

I think it has to do more with putting a minority in a box, on display to answer questions for the curious public.

If it's fully consensual, so to speak, I don't really see anything wrong with it. The form of it (glass box, display) is meant to be provoking and some my find it to be in a poor taste, but there is nothing particularly outrageous there. The content (answering questions from the public) is, imo, fully kosher (pun intended) and serves an educational purpose.

I think it might be fine - though still questionable if this was a lecture series of some sort on specific topics regarding to Jewish life.  Having a person sit as an object on display as a portrayal of an exotic minority and having them answer questions including those about racial stereotypes is objectionable. It doesn't matter if the participant doesn't mind.

And to have a line of text underneath that reads "Are there still Jews in Germany?" <_<
Title: Re: Museum in Germany displays Jew-in-the-box
Post by: Syt on April 05, 2013, 08:33:14 AM
The shop of the Jewish Museum Vienna has in their window several books, including one about the actress Hedi Lamarr. I want to go inside and write under the title, "It's Hedley. <_<"