http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21695887
QuoteNorth Korea ramps up nuclear rhetoric as UN vote looms
North Korea has ramped up rhetoric ahead of a UN vote on sanctions in response to its nuclear test.
Accusing the US of pushing to start a war, it vowed to exercise its right to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack against its aggressors.
The Security Council meets later today to approve fresh sanctions against Pyongyang over the 12 February test.
Earlier this week, North Korea also threatened to scrap the 60-year truce which ended the Korean War.
"As long as the United States is willing to spark nuclear war our forces will exercise their right to a pre-emptive nuclear strike," said North Korea's foreign ministry, in a statement carried by the KCNA news agency, without giving further details.
The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Seoul says most analysts believe Pyongyang is unlikely to start a war with the US, and may instead be trying to provoke a fresh stance from Washington ahead of the UN vote.
But the atmosphere on the Korean Peninsula is more tense than usual, our correspondent adds, after North Korea said that it would tear up the armistice agreement next week.
The two Koreas remain technically at war in the wake of the 1950-53 Korean War, which ended with an armistice, not a formal peace treaty.
North Korea's military command said it would end that armistice on 11 March, threatening "surgical strikes" on its southern neighbour and the use of a "precision nuclear striking tool" in response to the sanctions and ongoing South Korea-US military drills.
South Korea warned earlier this week that it would respond to any provocation from its northern neighbour.
On Thursday, a spokesman for the South Korean Defence Ministry, Kim Min-seok, said Pyongyang had been observed carrying out "various drills involving the army, navy and air force," and that further exercises were being prepared, the Yonhap news agency reports.
He said South Korea was taking "great interest in these activities," giving the view that such training could be "extended into a provocation at any time".
Officials also told Yonhap the North had imposed no-fly and no-sail zones off its east and west coasts, an indication that it could be planning to test-fire missiles.
Seoul is itself conducting military drills at the moment, in its annual joint manoeuvres with the US army, involving some 13,000 troops from both sides. The North views the drills as a provocation and as preparation for war.
The UN Security Council, meanwhile, will vote on the sanctions resolutions on North Korea at 10:00 EST (15:00 GMT).
The resolution, which is expected to pass, was proposed by China and the US, and will target North Korea's diplomats, cash transfers and access to luxury goods.
It will also impose asset freezes and travel bans on three individuals and two corporations linked to North Korea's military.
The sanctions have been described by Washington's UN ambassador Susan Rice as "some of the toughest sanctions" the UN had ever imposed.
Meanwhile, Australia has put on hold plans to reopen a North Korea embassy in its capital, Canberra.
Patrick Low, a spokesman for the Australian foreign ministry, said there was still "some merit" in having a North Korean embassy in Australia, including enabling more direct communication on human rights issues.
But said the plans had been frozen "until further notice" while Australia worked with the UN Security Council on its response to North Korea's nuclear test.
North Korea first opened an embassy in Australia in 2002, but closed it in 2008 for financial reasons.
The nuclear test, North Korea's third, followed its apparently successful launch in December of a three-stage rocket - a move condemned by the UN as a banned test of missile technology.
Pyongyang claims its nuclear test involved a smaller and more powerful device - prompting concerns it could be moving closer to creating a warhead small enough to arm a missile.
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
they must be really out of food
:bleeding:
Its amazing the way the world overreacts about any mention of the N word.
Particularly given the quality of North Korea's nuclear weapons they can do much more damage with their conventional stuff.
Yeah, it is incredible what an amazing over-reaction this is provoking, what with all that is being done in response. Like people posting a thread on Languish.
Quote from: Tyr on March 07, 2013, 08:03:53 AM
:bleeding:
Its amazing the way the world overreacts about any mention of the N word.
That's probably true, but what does it have to do with this thread? :huh:
Quote from: Berkut on March 07, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
Yeah, it is incredible what an amazing over-reaction this is provoking, what with all that is being done in response. Like people posting a thread on Languish.
:D
I wonder if any Facebook groups have been joined?
Quote from: sbr on March 07, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
I wonder if any Facebook groups have been joined?
Joined Languish? Do we have that feature? :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on March 07, 2013, 08:53:39 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 07, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
I wonder if any Facebook groups have been joined?
Joined Languish? Do we have that feature? :unsure:
I don't get it, but it's early and I haven't had any coffee.
Why would Facebook groups join Languish? :unsure:
I was making a silly joke about people joining Facebook groups in protest.
garbon doesn't do nuance, you know that. Not cunty enough.
Wow, a threat even less credible than the always imminent Israeli attack on Iran.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
Wile E Coyote, super genius could.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 09:33:02 AM
garbon doesn't do nuance, you know that. Not cunty enough.
Maybe he missed the 'been' in my statement. I was really confused about what I had said that was so confusing.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 07, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
Wile E Coyote, super genius could.
FU, I was going to make that joke. :(
Quote from: FunkMonk on March 07, 2013, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 07, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
Wile E Coyote, super genius could.
FU, I was going to make that joke. :(
Good thing I held that shit in so I could be FIRST.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 07, 2013, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on March 07, 2013, 09:49:59 AM
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
Wile E Coyote, super genius could.
FU, I was going to make that joke. :(
Good thing I held that shit in so I could be FIRST.
<Ed anger>At least I got the first strike on the toilet this morning. </Ed anger>
Quote from: FunkMonk on March 07, 2013, 10:11:16 AM
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
Wile E Coyote, super genius could.
FU, I was going to make that joke. :(
Good thing I held that shit in so I could be FIRST.
<Ed anger>At least I got the first strike on the toilet this morning. </Ed anger>
MMMMMMMONSTER KILL!
Nobody in the South pays attention to them and you shouldn't either.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
:D
Yeah, I was going to say how do you mount a nuclear strike without either a nuke or a reliable delivery system.
Quote from: Berkut on March 07, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
Yeah, it is incredible what an amazing over-reaction this is provoking, what with all that is being done in response. Like people posting a thread on Languish.
I miss boisterous rhetoric on an international stage, is all. :(
Let's hear a fair and balanced source:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/07/north-korea-vows-nuclear-attack-on-us-ahead-un-sanctions-vote/
QuoteNorth Korea vows nuclear attack on US, saying Washington will be 'engulfed in a sea of fire'
North Korea amplified its threatening rhetoric as the U.N. Security Council approved new sweeping sanctions, vowing to launch a first-strike nuclear attack against the United States and threatening to engulf Washington in a "sea of fire."
An unidentified spokesman for Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said the North will exercise its right for "a preemptive nuclear attack to destroy the strongholds of the aggressors" because Washington is pushing to start a nuclear war against the North.
At a mass rally in Pyongyang on Thursday, Army Gen. Kang Pyo Yong told the crowd that North Korea is ready to fire long-range nuclear-armed missiles at Washington.
"Intercontinental ballistic missiles and various other missiles, which have already set their striking targets, are now armed with lighter, smaller and diversified nuclear warheads and are placed on a standby status," Kang said. "When we shell (the missiles), Washington, which is the stronghold of evils, .... will be engulfed in a sea of fire."
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice reacted to the warnings Thursday, saying North Korea will "achieve nothing" with threats and provocations.
The U.N. Security Council unanimously endorsed a fourth round of sanctions against Pyongyang in a fresh attempt to rein in its nuclear and ballistic missile programs.
The vote Thursday by the U.N.'s most powerful body on a resolution drafted by North Korea's closest ally, China, and the United States sends a powerful message to North Korea that the international community condemns its ballistic missile and nuclear tests -- and its repeated violation of Security Council resolutions.
The new sanctions are aimed at making it more difficult for North Korea to finance and obtain material for its weapons programs.
North Korean threats have become more common as tensions have escalated following a rocket launch by Pyongyang in December and its third nuclear test on Feb. 12. Both acts defied three Security Council resolutions that bar North Korea from testing or using nuclear or ballistic missile technology and from importing or exporting material for these programs.
North Korea accused the U.S. of leading efforts to slap sanctions on North Korea. The statement said the new sanctions would only advance the timing for North Korea to fulfill previous vows to take "powerful second and third countermeasures" against its enemies.
The statement said North Korea "strongly warns the U.N. Security Council not to make another big blunder like the one in the past when it earned the inveterate grudge of the Korean nation by acting as a war servant for the U.S. in 1950."
North Korea demanded the U.N. Security Council immediately dismantle the American-led U.N. Command that's based in Seoul and move to end the state of war that exists on the Korean Peninsula, which continues six decades after fighting stopped because an armistice, not a peace treaty, ended the war.
In anticipation of the resolution's adoption, North Korea earlier in the week threatened to cancel the 1953 cease-fire that ended the Korean War.
Quote from: mongers on March 07, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
:D
Yeah, I was going to say how do you mount a nuclear strike without either a nuke or a reliable delivery system.
They have a nuke. And it can be reliably delivered via artillery or Scud. So they are a nuclear threat to the South at least.
edit: if this about a strike on the US, never mind :Embarrass:
Quote from: derspiess on March 07, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
They have a nuke. And it can be reliably delivered via artillery or Scud. So they are a nuclear threat to the South at least.
*yawn*
Yeah whatever.
Quote from: derspiess on March 07, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
They have a nuke. And it can be reliably delivered via artillery or Scud.
Maybe by UPS 2nd Day Ground, perhaps.
Are American parents now getting teenagers threatening to explode a nuke, because it's as credible and what you'd expect from the immature or dynastic despot.
Have they nuked yet?
How much money/lives would it take to take out all of the artillery threatening Seoul and most of NK's key infrastructure? It seems pretty likely the country would collapse under a sustained air campaign.
NK television show about American poverty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7jKpfhVkmF0
You know what S.Korea and the US should do ?
Construct a giant milk bottle on the border, and put a huge penciled note in it saying, "No Nukes Today, Thanks"
SK government is reporting that no one in the North is answering their shared crisis "hotline".
Probably because the power's off on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
SK government is reporting that no one in the North is answering their shared crisis "hotline".
Probably because the power's off on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
I was reading in our former leaders favourite newspaper, that North Koreans watchers say, in amongst all of the overblown rhetoric, in retrospect their attacks/outrages are 'clearly' signalled in advanced, so its quite likely they'll carry out something like the artillery strike on the island in 2010.
Apparently these things often happen after a new South Korean president is sworn in.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 11, 2013, 01:51:16 PM
NK television show about American poverty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7jKpfhVkmF0
:lol: I want some snow coffee now.
Quote from: mongers on March 11, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
I was reading in our former leaders favourite newspaper, that North Koreans watchers say, in amongst all of the overblown rhetoric, in retrospect their attacks/outrages are 'clearly' signalled in advanced, so its quite likely they'll carry out something like the artillery strike on the island in 2010.
Apparently these things often happen after a new South Korean president is sworn in.
Not that I'm spoiling to add another war to our already full plate, but I'd love to see us or the South Koreans respond to whatever the next attack is in an exaggerated manner (i.e., sink about 10 ships or carpet bomb some munitions facilities), to surprise the Norks who I'm sure are counting on a token response or none at all.
:lol: Their friends are dead and wrapped in blue body bags. These birds will be eaten on Tuesday.
Quote from: derspiess on March 07, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: mongers on March 07, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
I wonder how they figured out how to mount a mineshaft full of TNT onto a delivery device.
:D
Yeah, I was going to say how do you mount a nuclear strike without either a nuke or a reliable delivery system.
They have a nuke. And it can be reliably delivered via artillery or Scud. So they are a nuclear threat to the South at least.
and iirc, Languish has it's Tim deployed there. That NKorean nuke can be tainted anytime
Quick question that's been on my mind for a while: given the length of time that the two Koreas have split, has a linguistic divide set in? To put it another way, would a North Korean sound funny to a South Korean and vice-versa?
Quote from: derspiess on March 11, 2013, 02:53:48 PM
Quick question that's been on my mind for a while: given the length of time that the two Koreas have split, has a linguistic divide set in? To put it another way, would a North Korean sound funny to a South Korean and vice-versa?
There were regional accents before the war, but the voice-over on the snow coffee video didn't sound odd to me.
Probably the biggest difference is in the South they have incorporated a lot of English words into every day Korean.
Quote from: Queequeg on March 11, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
How much money/lives would it take to take out all of the artillery threatening Seoul and most of NK's key infrastructure? It seems pretty likely the country would collapse under a sustained air campaign.
I imagine a lot of it is buried / hardened. Not to mention there being a lot of redundant artillery pieces.
When you spend 25% of your GDP on your military you tend to have a pretty big military.
Quote from: Barrister on March 11, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
I imagine a lot of it is buried / hardened. Not to mention there being a lot of redundant artillery pieces.
When you spend 25% of your GDP on your military you tend to have a pretty big military.
When your GDP is comparable to the lowest GDP US state and your per Capita GDP is 1/20th of that, it doesn't sound that impressive.
If South Korea spent 0.7% of GDP on their military they'd be outspending North Korea. In fact they spend around 2.7%
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHjO1gt.jpg&hash=b998cb5476ea8e216f448f4e6a448e417f7592da)
Steel toe boots FTW!
Love the pic. :D
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
SK government is reporting that no one in the North is answering their shared crisis "hotline".
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkindertrauma.com%2Fimages%2Fconfessions%2Fyippiephone.jpg&hash=188c88bedd0650e3dd3d5203ff82726e1f594ff4)
Quote from: frunk on March 11, 2013, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 11, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
I imagine a lot of it is buried / hardened. Not to mention there being a lot of redundant artillery pieces.
When you spend 25% of your GDP on your military you tend to have a pretty big military.
When your GDP is comparable to the lowest GDP US state and your per Capita GDP is 1/20th of that, it doesn't sound that impressive.
If South Korea spent 0.7% of GDP on their military they'd be outspending North Korea. In fact they spend around 2.7%
Except I am sure NK has a much lower Cost of (Defense) Living index...so to speak. :P
Quote from: fahdiz on March 11, 2013, 06:24:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
SK government is reporting that no one in the North is answering their shared crisis "hotline".
Last time we called them on the hotline all we we got is some Korean guy wigging out.
Quote from: Berkut on March 07, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
Yeah, it is incredible what an amazing over-reaction this is provoking, what with all that is being done in response. Like people posting a thread on Languish.
:D
Quote from: Berkut on March 07, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
Yeah, it is incredible what an amazing over-reaction this is provoking, what with all that is being done in response. Like people posting a thread on Languish.
True. Had just seen another thread on it on another forum which was full of shall we say idiocy.
Love the green highlighter camo scheme and how well it blends in with the vegetation in this pic:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.reutersmedia.net%2Fresources%2Fr%2F%3Fm%3D02%26amp%3Bd%3D20130313%26amp%3Bt%3D2%26amp%3Bi%3D712365004%26amp%3Bw%3D%26amp%3Bfh%3D%26amp%3Bfw%3D%26amp%3Bll%3D700%26amp%3Bpl%3D390%26amp%3Br%3D2013-03-13T175543Z_06_GM1E93B1H9H01_RTRRPP_0_KOREA-NORTH&hash=bebc98de6f50e131a7d160bcd8ba8ee8db44488e)
this has to be fake
So did it happen or are the N.K. still digging a really big tunnel under Soeul ?
Quote from: derspiess on March 14, 2013, 10:46:34 AM
Love the green highlighter camo scheme and how well it blends in with the vegetation in this pic:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.reutersmedia.net%2Fresources%2Fr%2F%3Fm%3D02%26amp%3Bd%3D20130313%26amp%3Bt%3D2%26amp%3Bi%3D712365004%26amp%3Bw%3D%26amp%3Bfh%3D%26amp%3Bfw%3D%26amp%3Bll%3D700%26amp%3Bpl%3D390%26amp%3Br%3D2013-03-13T175543Z_06_GM1E93B1H9H01_RTRRPP_0_KOREA-NORTH&hash=bebc98de6f50e131a7d160bcd8ba8ee8db44488e)
They need to work on their IMT too.
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
this has to be fake
It's a Reuters pic.
Quote from: 11B4V on March 14, 2013, 10:51:12 AM
They need to work on their IMT too.
You mean they should be aiming their shots? Silly Westerner.
Quote from: derspiess on March 14, 2013, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
this has to be fake
It's a Reuters pic.
Quote from: 11B4V on March 14, 2013, 10:51:12 AM
They need to work on their IMT too.
You mean they should be aiming their shots? Silly Westerner.
:P I would so love to see the modern RoK show these twats they are not the RoK of 1950. But, I dont wish a conflict of this type on anyone.
Looks like any Call of Duty server. I'm the dude firing wildly
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 14, 2013, 05:04:40 PM
Looks like any Call of Duty server. I'm the dude firing wildly
:D
Friendly fire ftw.
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
this has to be fake
indeed, in real North Korea that vegetation would have been eaten