http://www.guardian.co.uk/teacher-network/teacher-blog/quiz/2013/feb/04/grammar-punctuation-quiz-test
14/14 :smarty:
(I thought 13, but it turned out I had clicked a different answer than I thought I had clicked - gues smy motor skills suck :( )
Quote from: Syt on February 07, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
(I thought 13, but it turned out I had clicked a different answer than I thought I had clicked - gues smy motor skills suck :( )
Yeah, that happened to me, too; I got 12/14, looked at the answers and thought, hey, I clicked those!
14/14 - yay writing tutor skills
Also, my hand motor skills were functioning.
14/14, Yay NLP skills.
And the ability to intuit from context, which is also an NLP skill.
14/14. Just as well or I'd have had to pursue a new career.
I didn't study English language past the age of 15 and was never taught about gerunds and prepositions, so I just guessed from the structure of the questions using, you know, grammar.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 07, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 07, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
(I thought 13, but it turned out I had clicked a different answer than I thought I had clicked - gues smy motor skills suck :( )
Yeah, that happened to me, too; I got 12/14, looked at the answers and thought, hey, I clicked those!
:nelson: Mines gooder then your's.
Me fail English? Thats unpossible/
13/14
Couldn't get the answers to show, so I'll never know which one I missed. :weep:
14/14.
No NLP, no impaired motor skills, some good teachers in middle school.
L.
#6 to me had no right answer. :hmm:
12/14.
8/14
I don't know what subordinate clause, abstract vs collective nouns, active voice and prepositional phrase are. Nor do I know what gerund is.
11/14. I'm in Tim's corner :P
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 07, 2013, 11:02:17 AM
8/14
I don't know what subordinate clause, abstract vs collective nouns, active voice and prepositional phrase are. Nor do I know what gerund is.
Well, it sounds like someone decided not to participate in the Grammar Rodeo.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m8sp9tJO7I1r8yo2fo1_500.jpg&hash=c1508624a1f3543c406eacc014f57ec5a7258d53)
Don't let Speesh bully you with his obscure TV line references GF. :ph34r:
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
i responded to a pretty hot chick i was trying to get with:
"hey, i have good grammar"
i was 20, but the humiliation remains :(
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
:lol: Oh, right. Sneaky.
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
Fuckers. :mad:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 07, 2013, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
Fuckers. :mad:
Come on, man. You should be on the lookout for 'gotcha' questions on a quiz like this.
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
Yup. I may have forgotten what a fucking gerund is, but at least I know the difference between pride in one's work and a pride of lions.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 07, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 07, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
(I thought 13, but it turned out I had clicked a different answer than I thought I had clicked - gues smy motor skills suck :( )
Yeah, that happened to me, too; I got 12/14, looked at the answers and thought, hey, I clicked those!
That happened to me. Got 13/14 but the answer I thought I'd clicked (13) would've made it 14/14 <_<
Guarniad programmers? :hmm:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 07, 2013, 02:37:48 PM
Guarniad programmers? :hmm:
Not the first time their polls had that kind of snafu.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
You mean "pride"? That's one of the two I got wrong. I'll cop to being wrong on the prepositional phrase one, but "pride" is not a fucking (gerund :) ) collective noun.
How is it not a collective noun?
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
That's stupid. It either means one thing ("regard for someone, something, or an accomplishment, ordinarily reflecting upon oneself"), and is abstract, or it means the other ("buncha lions"), and is collective. It can't be both at the same time.
Ahh, Languish :)
Quote from: Ideologue on February 07, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
That's stupid. It either means one thing ("regard for someone, something, or an accomplishment, ordinarily reflecting upon oneself"), and is abstract, or it means the other ("buncha lions"), and is collective. It can't be both at the same time.
It is true that when used in a sentence it can only mean one but when tasked with "Identify which of the following nouns are abstract and/or collective" - pretty obvious what you need to do.
Also I'm not sure I'd admit to getting the prepositional one wrong but then fight the collective noun one.
OK Schroedinger's grammarian.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 07, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
OK Schroedinger's grammarian.
I mean would you take the same issue if there was a question that said which of these is a noun and/or verb?
The question says "and/or," the answer itself says "and."
Maybe I need to relearn what a prepositional phrase is, but they need to refresh themselves on their logical operators.
And that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :homestar:
Give it up man. Pride has two meanings. One meaning is a collective noun and the other is an abstract noun. Therefore pride is a collective *and* an abstract noun.
OR.
If I said you're thick headed *or* a hillbilly, it means one or the other, not both. You're thick headed *and* you're a hillbilly.
Yeah, but I can be both of those at the same time. :smoke:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 07, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
If I said you're thick headed *or* a hillbilly, it means one or the other, not both. You're thick headed *and* you're a hillbilly.
In the Aristotelian sense, of course.
I got 12/12. :smarty:
I didn't take the test because she died about 10 years ago and that made me kinda sad.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 07, 2013, 05:22:48 PM
Yeah, but I can be both of those at the same time. :smoke:
:P
So can a word Out House my lad. "Pride" is five letters joined together that has varies significations in the English language. It is a part of speech. It is an abstraction. It is not that particular pride of lion's sitting right over there eating eland at the moment.
So just like you, this five letter grouping can be many things at the same time.
I had a 1970s British 'Comprehensive' education, I don't need to take the test do I ? :bowler:
Quote from: Ideologue on February 07, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
"Truth" is an abstract and collective noun? :hmm: I said just abstract. Haven't thought of that abstract/concrete noun crap in a very long time -- they are really more philosophical questions than grammar ones. If such a differance can be claimed. :frog: :homestar:
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
That's stupid. It either means one thing ("regard for someone, something, or an accomplishment, ordinarily reflecting upon oneself"), and is abstract, or it means the other ("buncha lions"), and is collective. It can't be both at the same time.
It's called a Homonym (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homonym) :smarty:
My use of grammar when I try is pretty good. My grasp of the terminology however....
I got 11. Easier than I thought. A lot of the terminology is rather logical given its name.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:38:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
:lol: Oh, right. Sneaky.
Yeah, pride got the better of me as well. 13/14 :(
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 07, 2013, 11:38:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 07, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
No, on that one it was pride that is abstract and collective because of the two different meanings.
:lol: Oh, right. Sneaky.
The picture of a polar bear right underneath got my mind on the right track. Otherwise, I might have missed it.
14/14 :showoff:
Quote from: Ideologue on February 07, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
You mean "pride"? That's one of the two I got wrong. I'll cop to being wrong on the prepositional phrase one, but "pride" is not a fucking (gerund :) ) collective noun.
That's not a gerund, that's an adjective. Your misunderstanding of what a gerund is is a gerund.
14/14. English grammar seems to be less complex than German or French grammar.
Quote from: Maximus on February 10, 2013, 12:08:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 07, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
You mean "pride"? That's one of the two I got wrong. I'll cop to being wrong on the prepositional phrase one, but "pride" is not a fucking (gerund :) ) collective noun.
That's not a gerund, that's an adjective. Your misunderstanding of what a gerund is is a gerund.
Cross I'll have to bear I guess.