Today I was having lunch at the John locke Foundation (where I gave a speech three weeks ago), when I got into a heated argument with three older gentlemen about the Obama birth certificate issue. It is of course a retarded argument since he is obviously eligible for President no matter where he was borne because of his american mother, the sort of conspiracy nutjob argument that merely distracts from real arguments that exposes the speakers as members of the :tinfoil: hat brigade.
Sad thing was, one of the people I was arguing the finer points of Constitutional law and Federal law with was a state appelate court judge.
That whole line of thinking annoys me for reasons way beyond the supposed technicalities of eligibility. I mean, John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, so shouldn't the same nuts be arguing he also should have been ineligible for the Presidency?
Anyway, the prohibition on naturalized citizens being President is archaic and should be removed via constitutional amendment.
Quote from: Hansmeister on May 18, 2009, 10:42:16 PM
Sad thing was, one of the people I was arguing the finer points of Constitutional law and Federal law with was a state appelate court judge.
Wow, you're sooo cool.
Quote from: Caliga on May 19, 2009, 05:20:16 AMI mean, John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, so shouldn't the same nuts be arguing he also should have been ineligible for the Presidency?
There were people arguing that he wasn't eligible.
*tempted to point out redundancy in the title*
Quote from: Caliga on May 19, 2009, 05:20:16 AM
Anyway, the prohibition on naturalized citizens being President is archaic and should be removed via constitutional amendment.
Native born citizens are cooler and superior.
Quote from: Caliga on May 19, 2009, 05:20:16 AM
Anyway, the prohibition on naturalized citizens being President is archaic and should be removed via constitutional amendment.
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
We lefties have Naomi Klein, Kos, and even worse.
Friendly fire is a bitch.
Quote from: Caliga on May 19, 2009, 05:20:16 AM
Anyway, the prohibition on naturalized citizens being President is archaic and should be removed via constitutional amendment.
Hell no. We have plenty of natural born idiots who can fill that role, without having to import them.
Stupid people are dumb.
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 10:15:33 AM
Hell no. We have plenty of natural born idiots who can fill that role, without having to import them.
What if our favorite idiot is not a natural born citizen? I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
What if our favorite idiot is not a natural born citizen? I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
National security.
LOL they argue about his birthplace? What about his fucking birthrace?
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
National security.
If we trust somebody enough to make them a citizen and give them an extensive political career that would enable them to run for President that horse if probably way out of the barn.
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
"President Arnold Schwarzenegger" isn't enough reason for you? :huh:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 19, 2009, 11:48:35 AM
"President Arnold Schwarzenegger" isn't enough reason for you? :huh:
The founding fathers really did have amazing forsight.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 19, 2009, 11:48:35 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
"President Arnold Schwarzenegger" isn't enough reason for you? :huh:
It will be beautiful.
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If only he hadn't failed as a bodybuilder and actor and been forced into politics. :(
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:47:48 AM
If we trust somebody enough to make them a citizen and give them an extensive political career that would enable them to run for President that horse if probably way out of the barn.
No sale.
Pfft, spiess is German.
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 12:13:02 PM
No sale.
Fine they will have to be happy being the power behind the throne like Henry Kissinger, where can safely not have any influence on National Security.
I find this strange coming from a guy with the "Democrats are fascist" avatar.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2009, 12:40:29 PM
I find this strange coming from a guy with the "Democrats are fascist" avatar.
Shockingly, you're missing the point of the poster.
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 12:53:12 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2009, 12:40:29 PM
I find this strange coming from a guy with the "Democrats are fascist" avatar.
Shockingly, you're missing the point of the poster.
No I didn't. It's on his head, but it's not polite to point out something like that.
A thread titled "I hate stupid conservatives" started by Hansy is one for first cases of Autophobia I have seen first hand.
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
What if our favorite idiot is not a natural born citizen? I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
National security.
Not really. Plenty of nationalized furriners have clearance.
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
What if our favorite idiot is not a natural born citizen? I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
National security.
Not really. Plenty of nationalized furriners have clearance.
Not to be president :yeah:
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 02:27:44 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 19, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
What if our favorite idiot is not a natural born citizen? I guess I do not understand the purpose of that qualification.
National security.
Not really. Plenty of nationalized furriners have clearance.
Not to be president :yeah:
:blurgh:
Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
No I didn't. It's on his head, but it's not polite to point out something like that.
:lol:
Quote from: Hansmeister on May 18, 2009, 10:42:16 PM
Today I was having lunch at the John locke Foundation (where I gave a speech three weeks ago), when I got into a heated argument with three older gentlemen about the Obama birth certificate issue. It is of course a retarded argument since he is obviously eligible for President no matter where he was borne because of his american mother, the sort of conspiracy nutjob argument that merely distracts from real arguments that exposes the speakers as members of the :tinfoil: hat brigade.
Sad thing was, one of the people I was arguing the finer points of Constitutional law and Federal law with was a state appelate court judge.
Wow. I remember hearing dumb stuff about McCain as well, born though he was to US citizens in the Panama Canal Zone.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 19, 2009, 10:06:05 AM
We lefties have Naomi Klein, Kos, and even worse.
Friendly fire is a bitch.
Is Kos really as bad as Klein? Klein is a brain damaged Neo-Marxist too stupid to own up to her own Marxism.
Kos is tolerable. That left wing bitch from The Nation drives me up the walls.
Katrina vanden Heuvel :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
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Quote from: Fate on May 19, 2009, 05:39:16 PM
Kos is tolerable. That left wing bitch from The Nation drives me up the walls.
Katrina vanden Heuvel :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
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She has a secret crush on Rush Limbaugh, you know. ;)
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
I knew you'd have a problem with a German being President. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
I knew you'd have a problem with a German being President. :rolleyes:
Not really.
Now, if you are talking of an austrian whos father served in the SS...
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2009, 09:27:26 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
I knew you'd have a problem with a German being President. :rolleyes:
Not really.
Now, if you are talking of an austrian whos father served in the SS...
Thats just fucking stupid... you don't inherit evil in the gene
Quote from: Viking on May 20, 2009, 09:34:29 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2009, 09:27:26 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
I knew you'd have a problem with a German being President. :rolleyes:
Not really.
Now, if you are talking of an austrian whos father served in the SS...
Thats just fucking stupid... you don't inherit evil in the gene
Just because we haven't found the evil gene yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. :P
Regardless, I don't see what evil has to do with this. He's talking about the son of a brave and honourable SS volunteer.
Quote from: Viking on May 20, 2009, 09:34:29 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2009, 09:27:26 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
I knew you'd have a problem with a German being President. :rolleyes:
Not really.
Now, if you are talking of an austrian whos father served in the SS...
Thats just fucking stupid... you don't inherit evil in the gene
You have a 50% chance of being like your father, a 40% chance of hating your father, and a 10% chance of being indiferent.
The problem is that through out life, you go through all three, in diferent degrees of intensity.
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2009, 09:38:00 AM
You have a 50% chance of being like your father, a 40% chance of hating your father, and a 10% chance of being indiferent.
The problem is that through out life, you go through all three, in diferent degrees of intensity.
I think that fits in with the 80% of all statistics are just made up.
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2009, 09:27:26 AM
Not really.
Now, if you are talking of an austrian whos father served in the SS...
Austrians=Germans. :)
Fuck you, Siege. Arnold is God. One day he will wear the jewelled crown of Americalonia upon a troubled brow.
Quote from: The Brain on May 20, 2009, 11:32:09 AM
Fuck you, Siege. Arnold is God. One day he will wear the jewelled crown of Americalonia upon a troubled brow.
He doesn't look that troubled to me.
http://joejusko.deviantart.com/art/Conan-s-Throne-Room-105775909
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 20, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 20, 2009, 11:32:09 AM
Fuck you, Siege. Arnold is God. One day he will wear the jewelled crown of Americalonia upon a troubled brow.
He doesn't look that troubled to me.
http://joejusko.deviantart.com/art/Conan-s-Throne-Room-105775909
Didn't see a Conan in the pic. :huh:
Quote from: Siege on May 20, 2009, 09:27:26 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 19, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Do you really want a cyberdine model T-101 as our President?
I knew you'd have a problem with a German being President. :rolleyes:
Not really.
Now, if you are talking of an austrian whos father served in the SS...
Or Stern Gang or the Irgun for that matter...
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:lol:
It's funny---Arnold has been coming to Reno every other weekend and holding townhall events with ex-California businesspeople. The purpose is supposedly to see why they left and what they need to do to get them back.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 20, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 20, 2009, 11:32:09 AM
Fuck you, Siege. Arnold is God. One day he will wear the jewelled crown of Americalonia upon a troubled brow.
He doesn't look that troubled to me.
http://joejusko.deviantart.com/art/Conan-s-Throne-Room-105775909
:lol: It's a literary reference, dude.