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Title: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
QuoteEach year, the Baltimore Police homicide section compiles statistics on city killings. Here's how some of the data break down:

Murders: 217
Clearance rate (cases closed by arrest or administratively): 47.4 percent
Victims injured in prior years who died this year:  7
Cases from prior years closed this year (which counts toward this year's clearance rate, per FBI guidelines):  28

Cause:
Arson: 1
Blunt force: 7 (3.6%)
Handgun: 181 (83.4%)
Knife/sharp object: 20 (9.2%)
Shotgun/rifle: 2
Strangle/suffocation: 2
Vehicle: 1
Other: 3

Gender:
Male:  196 (90.3%)
Female:  21 (9.7%)

Race:
Asian: 1
Black:  204 (94.4%)
Hispanic:  1
White: 10 (4.6%)

Age groups:

Juvenile: 11 (5%)
Adult:  206 (95%)
35 and over:  72 (33.2%)
25-34:  68 (31.3%)
24 and under: 77 (35.5%)

Motives:
Argument:  14
Arson:  1
Child abuse:  6
Dispute over money: 2
Domestic:  3
Drugs:  3
Neighborhood (dispute?): 1
Retaliation:  3
Robbery:  10
Other:  10
Unknown:  163

(Known) suspects with criminal records:  79.1 percent
Suspects with drug arrests:  61.6 percent
Suspects on parole and probation at time of killing:  23.3 percent
Suspects arrested for prior gun crimes:  45.3 percent


Victims with criminal records:  82.3 percent
Victims with drug arrests:  68.4 percent
Victims on parole and probation at time of death:  24.2 percentVictims arrested for prior gun crimes:  37.7 percent
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: The Brain on January 01, 2013, 02:36:50 PM
Someone sure hates African-Americans.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: sbr on January 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
The breakdown of ages doesn't seem very helpful.  Is there a reason they use those age ranges?
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
The breakdown of ages doesn't seem very helpful.  Is there a reason they use those age ranges?

I dunno, I thought they were awkward as well.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Josquius on January 01, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
looks like a pretty big fat 'loosen drug laws' message


Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: HVC on January 01, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
What falls under other? Poison?
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Jaron on January 01, 2013, 03:07:34 PM
Are those your personal stats for the year? :P
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: The Brain on January 01, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 01, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
looks like a pretty big fat 'loosen drug laws' message

:huh: 3 drug-related ones.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Scipio on January 01, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
That is a shitty clearance rate.  WTF, Ballmer?
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: PDH on January 01, 2013, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
The breakdown of ages doesn't seem very helpful.  Is there a reason they use those age ranges?

Looks like they chose them to make each roughly a third of the total...
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Viking on January 01, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
The breakdown of ages doesn't seem very helpful.  Is there a reason they use those age ranges?

It is relevant, it seems that in baltimore most black men are dead by age 35.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Josquius on January 01, 2013, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 01, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 01, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
looks like a pretty big fat 'loosen drug laws' message

:huh: 3 drug-related ones.

lots of unknowns and 61per cent with drug related arrests
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 01, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
So the monkey threads get locked but this one's allowed to go free?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Monoriu on January 01, 2013, 09:48:05 PM
About the gender, age, race breakdowns - are we talking about the victims or suspects?  My guess is the latter but it doesn't seem 100% clear to me. 
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 09:51:48 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 01, 2013, 04:50:24 PM
So the monkey threads get locked but this one's allowed to go free?  :hmm:

I don't see your point, other than the one at the top of your Klan hood.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Jaron on January 01, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
Black KKK? :unsure:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Razgovory on January 01, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
It's possible.  See Marcus Garvey.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2013, 12:03:12 AM
Quote from: Jaron on January 01, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
Black KKK? :unsure:

Racism knows no color :mad:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Lettow77 on January 02, 2013, 01:38:57 AM
 Memphis only provided 157 murders this year, and we remain unable to convincingly compete with Baltimore. :)

http://wreg.com/2013/01/01/2012-murder-rate-shows-steady-increase/
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Monoriu on January 02, 2013, 02:39:09 AM
There were 22 murders in HK in the first 10 months in 2012. 

http://www.police.gov.hk/ppp_en/09_statistics/csc.html

We are a city of 7 million. 
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Viking on January 02, 2013, 02:46:15 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 02, 2013, 02:39:09 AM
There were 22 murders in HK in the first 10 months in 2012. 

http://www.police.gov.hk/ppp_en/09_statistics/csc.html

We are a city of 7 million.

In 2012 the faroe islands had their first murder in 23 years

http://www.d-intl.com/articles/international/2012-11-22/first-murder-23-years-rattles-faroe-islands


considering how many drunken fools they have that is surprising
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Martinus on January 02, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
There were approximately 600 cases of manslaughter in 2012 in the whole of Poland.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Brazen on January 02, 2013, 05:26:44 AM
The most recent UK stats date back to last summer and show a drop of 14% in the UK murder rate to a total of 550. Only 39 were due to firearm offences.

It's been a while since we had a prolific serial killer like Harold Shipman, which has skewed past figures.

The most recent stats I can find for London report 101 murders in the year running up to April 2012, out of a population of 8,174,100.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on January 02, 2013, 05:56:29 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
Drugs:  3

:hmm:

Money, how reliable are these stats?
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Martinus on January 02, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
By the way, the stats I posted include attempted manslaughter (which make up approximately 30% of all manslaughter cases).
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 02, 2013, 06:42:29 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 02, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
There were approximately 600 cases of manslaughter in 2012 in the whole of Poland.
Do they only prosecute manslaughter cases there because Poles are incapable of premeditation and forethought? ;)
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Syt on January 02, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
There's usually 160-180 homicides in Austria per year (ca. 8,000,000 people). 3/4 are among "friends" or family. In the first three quarters this year Vienna (1.6 million people) had 13 homicides, all of which were solved by police.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2013, 07:06:18 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 02, 2013, 05:56:29 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 01, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
Drugs:  3

:hmm:

Money, how reliable are these stats?

The cops only know what they know, man.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2013, 07:23:23 AM
And we're off!  Happy 2013!  :yeah: :cheers:

QuoteTwo men were shot on New Year's Day in Baltimore in the city's first reported gun violence of 2013, police said.

A man was shot in the shoulder about 4 p.m. Tuesday in the 1200 block of Division Street in the Upton neighborhood, according to police. The man's injuries were not considered to be life-threatening, police said.

A second victim was found in the 1300 block of Caroline Street in Oliver about 9 p.m. with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, police said. Oliver was among the city's most violent neighborhoods in 2012, with at least seven shootings, according to Baltimore Sun crime data.

City police reported a quiet New Year's Eve, with no major incidents throughout the city.


QuoteGunfire rings in a deadly New Year across US
By M. Alex Johnson, NBC News

Seven people were shot, one of them fatally, during a New Year's party early Tuesday in Columbus, Ga., police said — just one of many fatal shootings to be reported across the country as 2013 got off to a bloody start.

Police detectives told NBC station WLTZ of Columbus that six people were shot inside the Majestic Sports Bar about 2:30 a.m. ET. One of the victims was pronounced dead, and the four others were being treated at the Medical Center of Columbus for non-life-threatening injuries.

The Columbus Enquirer reported that the dead man was identified as Charles Foster Jr., 24, of Columbus.

A short time later, a gunshot wounded a person sitting in a car in the club's parking lot. Police said that person was treated and released.

WLTZ reported that police knew of no suspects Tuesday afternoon but said there may have been more than one shooter.

Across the country, the New Year rang in with the sound of gunfire:

Three people, one of them a 17-year-old boy, were shot and killed Tuesday morning in separate incidents in Philadelphia, NBC 10 of Philadelphia reported.

The teenager was shot in the head about 12:30 a.m. ET during an following a house party, police said. About two hours later, an unidentified man was shot and killed in the Frankford area of the city. Then, about 3 a.m., police who were called to a house in North Philadelphia, where they found three gunshot victims. One later died at a hospital.

Police said they were investigating a double homicide Tuesday morning in Elizabeth City, N.C., NBC station WAVY of Portsmouth, Va., reported. The names of both victims were being withheld, but authorities said both were in their early 20s.

Police in Suffolk, Va., said a 31-year-old man died at a hospital after he was shot at a "social gathering" about 3 a.m., WAVY reported.

In Chicago, which hit the grim milestone of 500 homicides in 2012 last week, New Year's Day kept the toll clicking. A 20-year-old was killed Tuesday morning on the West Side, authorities said. He was among 11 people to have been shot so far Tuesday, the Sun-Times reported.

Another man was also shot and killed early Tuesday at a Georgia nightclub, this one the Club Fiesco located in South Augusta, police told NBC station WAGT of Augusta.

A suspect was in custody after a man killed one person and wounded four others Tuesday morning at a convenience store in Lansing, Mich., NBC station WILX of Lansing reported. Three of those injured were reported to be in critical condition.

Four people were shot, one of them fatally, at about 3:30 a.m. at a gasoline station in Lorain, Ohio, NBC station WKYC of Cleveland reported.

Police said a man shot his girlfriend in the head in Port Arthur, Texas, during an argument Tuesday morning, NBC station KBMT of Beaumont reported. She was pronounced dead.

A 19-year-old high school senior was dead and two other people were wounded during a shooting incident about 2 a.m. ET during a New Year's Eve party at an American Legion building in Clayton, N.C., NBC station WNCN of Raleigh reported.

In Corpus Christi, Texas, a 35-year-old man who was found injured in parking lot Tuesday morning died at a hospital, NBC station KRIS of Corpus Christi reported. Police haven't confirmed how the man was wounded, but they arrested a man armed with a handgun after an hourlong standoff at a nearby apartment.

Police in Flint, Mich., said they had no suspects in the death of a man who was found Tuesday morning with a gunshot wound, NBC station WEYI reported.

Indianapolis police who were called to a duplex shortly before 5:30 a.m. found a dead man with what appeared to be a gunshot wound, NBC station WTHR reported. No other details were immediately available.

Sheriff's deputies were investigating a fatal shooting Tuesday afternoon in Columbia, S.C., NBC station WIS of Columbia reported.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2013, 07:36:59 AM
Even my own neighborhood isn't safe from street crime:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic1521358.jpg&hash=96c7622f91af6505a60c3d2f77e4bd8dd8ba24e2)

Looks like one less birdie at the bird feeder this morning.



But is it really murder if they're so damned cute? :wub:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 10:02:18 AM
We had a murder in town just this week.  Two guys decided to rob a third man by telling him they would sell him drugs.  Everyone huddles into a car for the deal, and when the robbers tell their prospective victim that they didn't have any drugs and they were just going to take the money a gun fight broke out.  One robber wounded and the victim dead.  I suppose it's a bad idea to have a gun fight in a car.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Martinus on January 02, 2013, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 02, 2013, 06:42:29 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 02, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
There were approximately 600 cases of manslaughter in 2012 in the whole of Poland.
Do they only prosecute manslaughter cases there because Poles are incapable of premeditation and forethought? ;)

Yes. :P

But I should have said "homicide" instead.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Kleves on January 02, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
You know, if you took away all the blacks and guns, Baltimore would be a pretty safe city.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Kleves on January 02, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
You know, if you took away all the blacks and guns, Baltimore would be a pretty safe city.

It would be called a "small town" if you did that.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: DGuller on January 02, 2013, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 02, 2013, 02:39:09 AM
There were 22 murders in HK in the first 10 months in 2012. 

http://www.police.gov.hk/ppp_en/09_statistics/csc.html

We are a city of 7 million.
:blink: That doesn't make sense.  You can't even have a gun for defense there.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Viking on January 02, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
Quote from: Kleves on January 02, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
You know, if you took away all the blacks and guns, Baltimore would be a pretty safe city village.

fyp
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Kleves on January 02, 2013, 01:04:16 PM
There'd still be 200,000+ people, with something like ~12 murders a year.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: lustindarkness on January 02, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
This is why I don't live in Puerto Rico any more:

Quotela Oficina de Prensa de la Policía detalló que el año 2012 cerró con 978 asesinatos, 186 menos que los reportados en el 2011.

2012 had 978 murders, 186 less than 2011.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Tonitrus on January 02, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
It seems almost every country south of the U.S. has crazy-high murder rates.

IIRC, Venezuela beats out Afghanistan for homicide levels.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: dps on January 04, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: Tyr on January 01, 2013, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 01, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 01, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
looks like a pretty big fat 'loosen drug laws' message

:huh: 3 drug-related ones.

lots of unknowns and 61per cent with drug related arrests

Or, it could be a pretty good argument that druggies are just murderous thugs at heart.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: dps on January 04, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: Tyr on January 01, 2013, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 01, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 01, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
looks like a pretty big fat 'loosen drug laws' message

:huh: 3 drug-related ones.

lots of unknowns and 61per cent with drug related arrests

Or, it could be a pretty good argument that druggies are just murderous thugs at heart.

That's the natural conclusion.  What were you thinking Squeeze, that America's overly strict drug laws drove people to murder?  :huh:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Malthus on January 04, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Am I reading the stats correctly that less than half of murders were solved? How does that stack up to other cities?
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Valmy on January 04, 2013, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: Malthus on January 04, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Am I reading the stats correctly that less than half of murders were solved? How does that stack up to other cities?

That is pretty unusually low I think.  In Texas the statewide is 71% clearance.  Austin has a pretty low number of murders compared to Baltimore (typically between 15 and 30 in a city of 900,000) so our clearance rates are not really very comparable.  When you have over 200 that puts a big strain on police resources.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on January 05, 2013, 05:11:56 AM
The clear up rate for homicide in the UK is 95%; the numbers being low enough for substantial resources to be devoted to each case. It makes one wonder if there is a critical zone where, once a certain number of murders has been reached, clear up rates start to fall and the murder rate responds by increasing even further  :hmm:

Take the drug-related killings in Mexico; even if the police there were wonderfully clever and incorruptible it is hard to see how they could deal with the sheer volume of cases.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: dps on January 05, 2013, 10:10:05 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on January 05, 2013, 05:11:56 AM
The clear up rate for homicide in the UK is 95%; the numbers being low enough for substantial resources to be devoted to each case. It makes one wonder if there is a critical zone where, once a certain number of murders has been reached, clear up rates start to fall and the murder rate responds by increasing even further  :hmm:

Take the drug-related killings in Mexico; even if the police there were wonderfully clever and incorruptible it is hard to see how they could deal with the sheer volume of cases.


There may also be something else at work.  There is a popular perception that cops really don't much care if a drug dealer or drug addict gets killed in a drug deal gone sour, or even killings in a turf war between drug dealers, as long as innocent bystanders aren't getting killed, too.  I'm not sure if that perception is accurate or not--Seedy could address the issue--but if it is, then it might explain why the closure rate is so low when so many of the killings appear to be drug-related.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: ulmont on January 05, 2013, 10:13:42 AM
dps: "no humans involved."
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: dps on January 05, 2013, 10:10:05 AM
There may also be something else at work.  There is a popular perception that cops really don't much care if a drug dealer or drug addict gets killed in a drug deal gone sour, or even killings in a turf war between drug dealers, as long as innocent bystanders aren't getting killed, too.  I'm not sure if that perception is accurate or not--Seedy could address the issue--but if it is, then it might explain why the closure rate is so low when so many of the killings appear to be drug-related.

They care, but they can only work with what they've got--in certain areas, and with regard to certain crimes, nobody talks to the cops here, ever.  For gang- and drug-related shootings, they rarely have anything to go on, because nobody saw nuffin'.   No witnesses, nobody talks.  That, and there's been a huge upswing in the fine art of witness-killing here the last several years that's made the papers doesn't help, either.  That is absolutely the biggest part of the problem:  the community won't share, and can't share.  Talking to the police gets your house firebombed.

One thing that has definitely impacted the closure rate of the homicides from the police side, which at one time used to be damned good, is leadership's insistence on rotating Homicide detectives in and out.  Once upon a time, you'd have Homicide detectives assigned to specific districts for years and years, ones that knew the district and its players like the backs of their hands, guys that worked shootings for 15 years.  Now, for organizational health and the requirements of the City Council who need personnel quotas in specialized units, there's a ton of personnel movement all the time, and nobody sticks around very long to achieve veteran status anymore, and there are very few Homicide veterans;  a detective that's been working Auto Crimes for the last 4 years is suddenly in Homicide, and a detective that's built up 8 years of Homicide experience finds himself transferred out to Robbery, because a detective sergeant slot is still a detective sergeant slot in the org chart.  For certain units there's some experience overlay, like with Organized Crime or Youth, but oftentimes not--so you've got a lot of Homicide detectives learning as they go, and by the time they've established enough proficiency, they're shuffled elsewhere.

I'm all for an organization's promotion opportunity and diversity, but for some things, you simply can't replace institutional knowledge and experience and expect the same results.  But Law Enforcement administration and management isn't always known for its smarts.

Interesting though; what a lot of the statistics don't mention is how several shootings/killings are actually part of the same incident, and can stretch out over hours, days and even weeks;  they're not always single cases.  Pookie gets shot by Donte because he's pinching his corner, so Pookie's friends have to go shoot up Donte's house 6 hours later, and then Donte's friends have to go find Pookie's boys and shoot them up the following day, and so on.  There's a distinct, linear connection to many shootings that way;  you could have 4 or 6 homicides over the course of 3 or 4 weeks that all stem from a single incident.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: The Brain on January 05, 2013, 10:50:56 AM
I've seen The Wire. :smarty:
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
Interesting though; what a lot of the statistics don't mention is how several shootings/killings are actually part of the same incident, and can stretch out over hours, days and even weeks;  they're not always single cases.  Pookie gets shot by Donte because he's pinching his corner, so Pookie's friends have to go shoot up Donte's house 6 hours later, and then Donte's friends have to go find Pookie's boys and shoot them up the following day, and so on.  There's a distinct, linear connection to many shootings that way;  you could have 4 or 6 homicides over the course of 3 or 4 weeks that all stem from a single incident.

For you more socially sensitive types, I've provided an alternative narrative of the above.

QuoteInteresting though; what a lot of the statistics don't mention is how several shootings/killings are actually part of the same incident, and can stretch out over hours, days and even weeks;  they're not always single cases.  Christian gets shot by Dylan because he's pinching his corner, so Christian's friends have to go shoot up Dylan's house 6 hours later, and then Dylan's friends have to go find Christian's boys and shoot them up the following day, and so on.  There's a distinct, linear connection to many shootings that way;  you could have 4 or 6 homicides over the course of 3 or 4 weeks that all stem from a single incident.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: Josquius on January 05, 2013, 10:55:52 AM
I guess we need some sort of risk free way to tell something to the police. Nark.com so to speak. Trouble is how to do it in a way that is safe from abuse...
Do you not have much cctv there?
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 05, 2013, 10:50:56 AM
I've seen The Wire. :smarty:

Go fuck yourself with the complete DVD collection.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: The Brain on January 05, 2013, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 05, 2013, 10:50:56 AM
I've seen The Wire. :smarty:

Go fuck yourself with the complete DVD collection.

Testy. I like it.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 05, 2013, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: Tyr on January 05, 2013, 10:55:52 AM
I guess we need some sort of risk free way to tell something to the police. Nark.com so to speak. Trouble is how to do it in a way that is safe from abuse...
Do you not have much cctv there?

Tons of CCTV.  It's actually a fantastic system, and has produced results, not just for shootings, but for all sorts of personal and property crimes.
They stopped shooting at the cameras years ago.
Title: Re: Your 2012 Demographics of the Day post
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2013, 12:43:00 PM
More statistical stuff:

QuoteViolence errupted across Baltimore late Friday leaving three men dead of gunshot wounds and another person stabbed to death, ending a New Year's lull in which the city had seen shootings but no killings.

Police identified the first fatal victim of gun violence in 2013 as 18-year-old Darius Shields. Officers responded to a shooting shortly before 8pm in the 500 block of E. Patapsco Ave. in the Brooklyn neighborhood and found Shields suffering a gunshot wound to his upper chest, police said.

Medics took him to Shock Trauma but he was pronounced dead at 8:29 p.m.
, police said.
 
A few hours later, officers were called for reports of gunshots in the 2300 block of W. Lanvale Street, police said. An officer found Delroy Davis, 20, lying face up between two homes with multiple gunshot wounds to his torso, police said. He was also taken to Shock Trauma and pronounced dead there.

Then in the early hours of Saturday, a patrol officer in the 200 block of N. Franklintown Road came across a parked black Toyota Camry with the front doors wide open, police said, and its windshield and windows riddled with bullet holes.

Two men inside had each been shot multiple times, according to police. One of them, identified as Tavon Pierson, was declared dead at Shock Trauma in the early hours of Saturday morning, police said. The other man has not been identified.

Police believe another man shot at the pair before fleeing the scene in a green Honda Accord with a partner.

Earlier in the evening a 19-year-old man who officers have not identified was shot in the leg and taken to an area hospital
, where police said he is in good condition.

Additionally, police said someone was fatally stabbed in the 5400 block of York Road,
but had no other information. Earlier in the afternoon someone shot themselves in the 1800 blk of Penrose Ave, police said.

Previously, there had been about a dozen non-fatal shootings in the city in 2013 and no shooting homicides. In the last four years, the average ratio of non-fatal to fatal shootings has been a little more than two-to-one.

3 KIA, Firearm
2 WIA, Firearm
1 KIA, Knife

Stats are atrocious so far this year.  They're not even hitting their body weight.