... The Argos win the Cup and, more importantly, our mayor has been booted out of office for football-based conflict of interest. :lol:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1293190--mayor-rob-ford-guilty-kicked-from-office-but-can-run-again
No Premier, no mayor. Toronto is a power vacuum.
I didn't even know about this trial. Was it in the news, or was i just blind? That's a reletively minor thing to get kicked out of office for. Oh well, when you make enough enemies. He's getting sued by a resturant too, i guess now that he's out of office he'll lose that one too.
Curious, why was the remedy removing him from office and not simply undoing the decision?
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 26, 2012, 01:37:28 PM
Curious, why was the remedy removing him from office and not simply undoing the decision?
Essentially, that the relevant law requires removal from office where an officeholder fails to comply with the conflict of interest requirements unless the failure was "inadvertant" or through an "error of judgment". There is no provision in the legislation for any lesser penalty for de minimis failures.
So out he goes, even though the judge himself said that the amounts at issue were trivial and there was no question of corruption or anything like that.
Quote[48] I recognize that the circumstances of this case demonstrate that there was absolutely no issue of corruption or pecuniary gain on the respondent's part. His contraventions of the municipal Code of Conduct involved a modest amount of money which he endeavoured to raise for a legitimate charity (his football foundation), which is administered at arm's length through the Community Foundation of Toronto. His remarks to City Council on February 7, 2012, focused at least in part on the proposed sanction against him, in circumstances where many informed commentators would contend that the principles of procedural fairness, audi alteram partem, should have allowed him to speak (although not to vote). The respondent's actions, as far as speaking against the proposed sanction is concerned, was an unfortunate but arguably technical breach of s. 5(1) of the MCIA. The only pecuniary interest the respondent had in the matter before Council was the financial sanction sought to be imposed upon him. Moreover, there were no transparency concerns here, in view of the Integrity Commissioner's initial and follow-up reports, which carefully and accurately explained both the Code of Conduct issues and the respondent's ongoing refusal to comply with Council's repayment resolution adopted at the meeting of August 25, 2010. In short, the relevant facts were fully available to Council at its meeting of February 7, 2012.
Quote[50] In any event, while the respondent's conduct in speaking and voting at the February 7, 2012 City Council meeting was far from the most serious breach of s. 5(1) of the MCIA, removal from office is mandatory unless the respondent's contravention of the MCIA was committed through inadvertence or by reason of an error in judgment. The burden of proof is on the respondent to establish this.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/26/toronto-mayor-rob-ford-removed-from-office-full-text-of-justice-charles-hacklands-verdict/
In fact, he's being screwed (somewhat), which may generate him some sympathy. Only, it's a screwing caused by his aggressive 'know-nothing' attitude.
Mayor hazel (mississauga) makes her son millions through conflict of interest and gets re-elected. Ford makes 3500 for schools and gets booted. Maybe we are worse then Quebec lol
lulz, Rocket Ismail.
Quote from: HVC on November 26, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
Mayor hazel (mississauga) makes her son millions through conflict of interest and gets re-elected. Ford makes 3500 for schools and gets booted. Maybe we are worse then Quebec lol
First a woman launches a human rights compaint because a man's barber won't give her a haircut. Now, Ford is booted out of office over this.
What can I say? It's a great city to be a lawyer in. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
What can I say? It's a great city to be a lawyer in. :lol:
So you admit it, all our ills are the fault of lawyers? :D
Quote from: HVC on November 26, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
What can I say? It's a great city to be a lawyer in. :lol:
So you admit it, all our ills are the fault of lawyers? :D
No, your ills are your own. Lawyers just profit thereby.
You don't blame the maggots for the fact the meat is rotten, right? ;)
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on November 26, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
What can I say? It's a great city to be a lawyer in. :lol:
So you admit it, all our ills are the fault of lawyers? :D
No, your ills are your own. Lawyers just profit thereby.
You don't blame the maggots for the fact the meat is rotten, right? ;)
i won't fall for you tricky lawyer talk!
Quote from: HVC on November 26, 2012, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on November 26, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
What can I say? It's a great city to be a lawyer in. :lol:
So you admit it, all our ills are the fault of lawyers? :D
No, your ills are your own. Lawyers just profit thereby.
You don't blame the maggots for the fact the meat is rotten, right? ;)
i won't fall for you tricky lawyer talk!
Especially when he said "de minimis."
Hey, for more lawyer-talk to confuse and upset the proles ... what do you cabal members think of Ford's chances on appeal?
Quote from: Malthus on November 27, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
Hey, for more lawyer-talk to confuse and upset the proles ... what do you cabal members think of Ford's chances on appeal?
I am not sure. If I was his lawyer I think I would take a shot at the constitutionality of the remedy provision.
Quote from: Malthus on November 26, 2012, 10:43:45 AM
... The Argos win the Cup and, more importantly, our mayor has been booted out of office for football-based conflict of interest. :lol:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1293190--mayor-rob-ford-guilty-kicked-from-office-but-can-run-again
Wait how could that possibily be more important than Toronto winning the championship?
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Wait how could that possibily be more important than Toronto winning the championship?
It's not the Stanley Cup, it's... that other cup.
Quote from: Drakken on November 27, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Wait how could that possibily be more important than Toronto winning the championship?
It's not the Stanley Cup, it's... that other cup.
If Toronto won the Stanley Cup, I'd start to take seriously apocalyptic warnings ... :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on November 27, 2012, 12:29:08 PM
Quote from: Drakken on November 27, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Wait how could that possibily be more important than Toronto winning the championship?
It's not the Stanley Cup, it's... that other cup.
If Toronto won the Stanley Cup, I'd start to take seriously apocalyptic warnings ... :lol:
:lol:
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Wait how could that possibily be more important than Toronto winning the championship?
It's canadian football.
Quote from: viper37 on November 27, 2012, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Wait how could that possibily be more important than Toronto winning the championship?
It's canadian football.
BB seems to like it :P
There is no finer kind of football than 3-down football. :yes:
Quote from: Valmy on November 27, 2012, 02:20:20 PM
BB seems to like it :P
Honestly, I like it too :)
I like both the NFL and the CFL. There's no way Quebec city could ever aspire to an NFL team, but a CFL team might be doable at some point in the future, once we bring the Stanlay Cup home and legion of businessmen recognize the city's potential as a true haven for sports, much like Glendale... ahem, strike that last part :)
Anyway, I like both, but many hardcore football fans prefer US college football over the CFL, and obviously the NFL. I'm just a casual observer, so I like university football because my university is winning all the championships ;) and the CFL because it is an accessible sport. I mean, if I wanted to, I could go and watch an Alouette's game in Montreal, tickets aren't that pricey. Seeing the Patriots though, is another matter.
Quote from: Barrister on November 27, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
There is no finer kind of football than 3-down football. :yes:
it is a faster game, wich I like.
On the downside, it also discourages audacity in most play, you're unlikely to see some dude running accross 3/4 of the field as you'd watch in the Superbowl.
Meh, 3 down football can be more exciting but with only 8 professional teams playing it the competitive nature of the league gets pretty dull - Woot Edmonton is playing BC.... again. Pretty hard to get excited about seeing the same teams all the time.
Just to let you know, since the Alouettes got eliminated no one here gave a damn about the Grey Cup this year. So we didn't have to withstand the Lil-Bib wiggling around and that girl who's still surfing on that hit she's made two years ago, like you did. :yeah:
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 27, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
Meh, 3 down football can be more exciting but with only 8 professional teams playing it the competitive nature of the league gets pretty dull - Woot Edmonton is playing BC.... again. Pretty hard to get excited about seeing the same teams all the time.
You should try for 10 and have everybody play each other home and away. Then you could keep the 18 game schedule and it will not be repetitive.
Ottawa and Quebec City should be the new teams.