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Title: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 11:49:53 AM
40 arrested as Moscow anti-riot police use violence to break up Slavic Pride march

Boycott Eurovision, say Pride organisers

Moscow – 16th May


Sources from Moscow have reported that police have used violent and oppressive tactics to break up the peaceful Slavic Pride march in the city.

The march had been outlawed by Moscow city authorities, but permission had been given for counter-demonstrations by far right ultra-nationalists.

Between 35 and 40 Russian LGBT activists have been arrested, including British human rights activist Peter Tatchell and Chicago LGBT activist Andy Thayer. Pride organiser Nikolai Alekseev was held down by 5 fully armed riot police and arrested.

European Embassy diplomats witnessed the violence are said to be planning a joint diplomatic action.

Slavic Pride organisers have called on the artists and performers of Eurovision to boycott tonight's showpiece event in solidarity with the beaten and arrested protesters.

Organiser Nikolai Alekseev said

"I call upon all of the artists who are due to perform at tonight's Eurovision to boycott tonight's event and send a message that Russia's state oppression of human rights is not acceptable.

"The Russian Government is using this years Eurovision in Moscow as a gala showpiece to show the world how far the country has improved since the early 1990's. However, what was witnessed this afternoon on the streets of Moscow shows the world just how little Russia has travelled when it comes to supporting fundamental human rights.

"The police brutality that we witnessed here this afternoon is shocking. We planned a peaceful march to highlight the dire state of LGBT rights in Russia today. The police, given violent legitimacy by the openly homophobic Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov, did not hold back with their weapons, despite the world's media watching.

"We were defending the often violated human rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Russians. We demand the same legal protection against discrimination and hate crimes that none LGBT people enjoy.

"This episode has shamed the Russian Government and Moscow authorities before the world."

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=35320687969&topic=8354

Fucking Russian government.  :mad:
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 11:55:47 AM
BBC coverage:

Police in Russia have broken up a protest by gay rights activists in Moscow, staged to coincide with the final of the Eurovision Song Contest.
Some 30 campaigners had gathered near a university in defiance of a ban on their march and many were dragged away by police when they shouted slogans.
British gay rights activist, Peter Tatchell, was among those detained.
A counter-demonstration by nationalist and religious groups was allowed to go ahead elsewhere in the Russian capital.
Equal rights
The gay rights group had been waving flags and chanting slogans demanding equal rights and condemning the treatment of gays and lesbians in Russia.
At least 20 were arrested as police moved in to disperse the protest.
As he was being taken away by police, Mr Tatchell shouted: "This shows the Russian people are not free."
Speaking from a police station, he later told the BBC: "The way the police violently broke up our peaceful protest is an indication of a drift toward authoritarianism that is affecting all Russians."
'Satanic'
The organiser of the gathering and leading campaigner, Nikolai Alexeyev, was also detained at the event, which took place in the south-west of the city.

Nikolai Alexeyev organised the event despite the ban
The Eurovision Song Contest traditionally has a large gay following and activists in Russia had seen its staging in Moscow as a great opportunity to highlight what they say is deep prejudice, says the BBC's Moscow correspondent, Richard Galpin.
There have been many attacks on members of the gay community - they also say they risk being sacked by their employers and shunned by their families.
The Moscow mayor Yuri Luzkhov has described gay parades as "satanic".
Anti-gay groups had threatened to take matters into their own hands if the police failed to stop the protest.
Several dozen nationalist and religious protesters earlier staged an anti-gay march near central Moscow.

You can watch the video here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8053181.stm
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: The Brain on May 16, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
Russians are gay.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Queequeg on May 16, 2009, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
Russians are gay.
Not really.  Its one of the few nations on Earth were the greatest poets and novelists are generally heterosexual, with apologies to Gogol and Marina Tsvetaeva.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Queequeg on May 16, 2009, 12:08:40 PM
This seems fantastically cruel and barbaric.  Very stupid move by the Govt. 
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Razgovory on May 16, 2009, 12:14:38 PM
I would be outraged if Marty hadn't brought it to my attention.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 16, 2009, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
Russians are gay.
Not really.  Its one of the few nations on Earth were the greatest poets and novelists are generally heterosexual, with apologies to Gogol and Marina Tsvetaeva.
Tchaikovsky was famously gay (and pushed to suicide over it).
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on May 16, 2009, 12:26:48 PM
Russians are insane. Also fearless. Would any of us march in a Pride parade in Moscow? I doubt I would. I prefer nice cozy closets to death.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: DGuller on May 16, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
So, let me get this straight, the Russian police didn't break any skulls or beat anyone up in prison over this, and yet you're still complaining?
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Neil on May 16, 2009, 12:38:39 PM
This is great.  It's like one group of Martinuses are persecuting another group of Martinuses.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Strix on May 16, 2009, 12:43:07 PM
It was an illegal march. They would have done the same thing in the US.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: The Brain on May 16, 2009, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 16, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
So, let me get this straight, the Russian police didn't break any skulls or beat anyone up in prison over this, and yet you're still complaining?

:bash:
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Tamas on May 16, 2009, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 16, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
So, let me get this straight, the Russian police didn't break any skulls or beat anyone up in prison over this, and yet you're still complaining?

You are evil!  :mad:
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Ed Anger on May 16, 2009, 01:04:50 PM
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YEAH!
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on May 16, 2009, 12:26:48 PM
Russians are insane. Also fearless. Would any of us march in a Pride parade in Moscow? I doubt I would. I prefer nice cozy closets to death.
Peter Tatchell did. I really respect this guy.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 01:30:34 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 16, 2009, 12:43:07 PM
It was an illegal march. They would have done the same thing in the US.
I haven't expected anything better from you, but just for others, the march was illegal because the authorities said they won't allow any march by gay rights groups. Not to mention, freedom of assembly is one of the basic human rights. It's like saying the police would be in their right to brutalize Rosa Parks because what she did was illegal.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 01:31:42 PM
Oh and fuck you, trolls. :)
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 16, 2009, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
Russians are gay.
Not really.  Its one of the few nations on Earth were the greatest poets and novelists are generally heterosexual, with apologies to Gogol and Marina Tsvetaeva.

Tchaikovsky sucked cock.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 16, 2009, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
Russians are gay.
Not really.  Its one of the few nations on Earth were the greatest poets and novelists are generally heterosexual, with apologies to Gogol and Marina Tsvetaeva.
Tchaikovsky was famously gay (and pushed to suicide over it).

D'oh.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 02:49:52 PM
Anyway, anything named "Slavic Pride" needs to be broken up hardcore, fags in attendance or not.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Strix on May 16, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 16, 2009, 01:30:34 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 16, 2009, 12:43:07 PM
It was an illegal march. They would have done the same thing in the US.
I haven't expected anything better from you, but just for others, the march was illegal because the authorities said they won't allow any march by gay rights groups. Not to mention, freedom of assembly is one of the basic human rights. It's like saying the police would be in their right to brutalize Rosa Parks because what she did was illegal.

Hey, you were the one posting an article about an illegal protest. I am not sure why you're shocked that people were arrested for engaging in illegal acts. And, yes, a great many people were arrested during the Civil Rights Era for illegal protests, in the Vietnam Era for illegal protests, and today for illegal protests. It's expected at some Ivy League schools that you get arrested for protesting at some point especially at Brown. If forty gay rights activists had been gunned down during the protest than I would have a different view. They weren't, so this is really a non-event.

If you want to discuss the morality of the issue than you should have created a thread showing shock and dismay at the authorities outlawing the protest and not the police doing their jobs.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2009, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 16, 2009, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 16, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
So, let me get this straight, the Russian police didn't break any skulls or beat anyone up in prison over this, and yet you're still complaining?

You are evil!  :mad:
He's a fucking breeder!  Kill him! Offer him up to the ghost of Charles Nelson Riley!
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2009, 03:07:15 PMHe's a fucking breeder!  Kill him! Offer him up to the ghost of Charles Nelson Riley!

You know, if faggots were less like Marty and garbon, and more like Paul Lynde and Liberace, they'd probably be more widely accepted.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Tonitrus on May 16, 2009, 07:47:27 PM
I don't think this can be called homophobic, as the Russian/Moscow police tend brutally break up all demonstrations with equal vigor.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: PDH on May 16, 2009, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 03:22:47 PM
[You know, if faggots were less like Marty and garbon, and more like Paul Lynde and Liberace, they'd probably be more widely accepted.
Amen.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: derspiess on May 16, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 02:49:52 PM
Anyway, anything named "Slavic Pride" needs to be broken up hardcore, fags in attendance or not.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: dps on May 16, 2009, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 02:49:52 PM
Anyway, anything named "Slavic Pride" needs to be broken up hardcore, fags in attendance or not.

Yeah, the whole gay angle aside, "Slavic Pride" is pretty much a contradiction in terms.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2009, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: dps on May 16, 2009, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 02:49:52 PM
Anyway, anything named "Slavic Pride" needs to be broken up hardcore, fags in attendance or not.

Yeah, the whole gay angle aside, "Slavic Pride" is pretty much a contradiction in terms.
Slavic Pride: Ten Thousand Years of Barbarism and Going Strong, A History You Can Be Proud of!
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Jaron on May 16, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
I disagree that freedom of assembly is a basic human right.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: syk on May 16, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdontclickthis.whatingods.name%2F420px-OMON.jpg&hash=81db7d78fb42b80629cc8f7ec26baeb85ad58efa)
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Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Habbaku on May 16, 2009, 11:13:19 PM
It's good that they label them like that so we know who they are in public.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: DGuller on May 16, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
 :lmfao: I never realized that mirroring "OMON" in Russian would make it "HOMO" in English.  I hope they don't have vans with one of those mirror labels on their hood.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 17, 2009, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2009, 03:07:15 PMHe's a fucking breeder!  Kill him! Offer him up to the ghost of Charles Nelson Riley!

You know, if faggots were less like Marty and garbon, and more like Paul Lynde and [Liberace, they'd probably be more widely accepted.
Closeted and sueing the shit out of anyone who says they are gay?  :huh:
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 17, 2009, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2009, 07:47:27 PM
I don't think this can be called homophobic, as the Russian/Moscow police tend brutally break up all demonstrations with equal vigor.

Then you don't know shit about a situation of the LGBT movement in Russia. It is little better than in the Middle East.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 17, 2009, 05:34:59 AM
LMAO I love the comment from the kid who won Eurovision:

"Why did they (the Moscow police) spend all their energy stopping gays in Moscow when the biggest gay parade was here tonight?"
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2009, 06:06:00 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2009, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 16, 2009, 03:07:15 PMHe's a fucking breeder!  Kill him! Offer him up to the ghost of Charles Nelson Riley!

You know, if faggots were less like Marty and garbon, and more like Paul Lynde and [Liberace, they'd probably be more widely accepted.
Closeted and sueing the shit out of anyone who says they are gay?  :huh:

You're confusing Tom Cruise with Liberace.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Martinus on May 17, 2009, 06:09:43 AM
Uhm...

QuoteLiberace's fame in the U.S. was matched for a time in the UK. In 1956, an article in The Daily Mirror by veteran columnist Cassandra (William Connor) mentioned that Liberace was "...the summit of sex--the pinnacle of masculine, feminine, and neuter. Everything that he, she, and it can ever want... a deadly, winking, sniggering, snuggling, chromium-plated, scent-impregnated, luminous, quivering, giggling, fruit-flavoured, mincing, ice-covered heap of mother love," a description which did everything it could to imply he was homosexual without actually saying so. Liberace sued[44] the newspaper for libel, testifying in a London court that he was not a homosexual, and had never taken part in homosexual acts. He won the suit, partly on the basis of the term fruit-flavoured, which was held to impute homosexuality. The £8,000 ($22,400) damages he received from The Daily Mirror led Liberace to repeat his catchphrase. "I cried all the way to the bank!"[45] The catchphrase inspired the title of Crying All The Way To The Bank, a detailed report of the trial based on transcripts, court reports and interviews, by the former Daily Mirror journalist Revel Barker.
He fought and settled a similar case in the United States against Confidential. Rumors and gossip magazines frequently alleged behavior that strongly implied that he was a homosexual. A typical issue of Confidential in 1957 shouted, "Why Liberace's Theme Song Should Be 'Mad About the Boy!'"[46]
In 1982, Scott Thorson, Liberace's 24 year old bodyguard, driver, and alleged live-in boyfriend of some five years, sued the pianist for $113 million in palimony after an acrimonious split-up. Liberace continued to publicly deny that he was homosexual. In 1984, most of Thorson's claim was dismissed although he received a $95,000 settlement.[47] Later in the decade Thorson emerged as a pivotal witness in the prosecution of reputed gangster Eddie Nash in the 1981 quadruple murder of the Wonderland Gang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2009, 06:11:24 AM
Yes, Marty, we know you have no sense of humor when it comes to your sister fags.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Slargos on May 17, 2009, 06:16:37 AM
You're a fountain of good news, Marty. Every morning, I wake up and log on to Languish to get my feel good story for the day, and you never fail to deliver.  :hug:
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: Neil on May 17, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2009, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2009, 07:47:27 PM
I don't think this can be called homophobic, as the Russian/Moscow police tend brutally break up all demonstrations with equal vigor.

Then you don't know shit about a situation of the LGBT movement in Russia. It is little better than in the Middle East.
The LGBTs have it coming.  Especially the Bs (who spread AIDS to regular people) and the Ts (who should just suck it up).  While I feel bad for the gays and lesbians who are persecuted around the world, it makes me feel better when I think of the fact that the only Slavic homo that I've known deserves to be thrown off a roof.
Title: Re: Gay rights protest in Moscow brutally pacified
Post by: garbon on May 17, 2009, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2009, 03:22:47 PM
You know, if faggots were less like Marty and garbon, and more like Paul Lynde and Liberace, they'd probably be more widely accepted.

Hey now. :angry: