I'm taking Timmy out trick-or-treating tonight. It's cold enough I doubt we'll go any further than our own cul-de-sac.
How about you folks?
Nothing. Cat is locked away in the garage to protect him from amatuer satanists.
I am going to man the door while my wife takes my toddler Trick-or-Treating. And I have a paper to write about a play...and unfortunately nothing Halloweenish about the play.
Been going out with my nieces every year since they were born, but not really in the mood tonight.
Pick up kids, rush home, give neighbors a bucket of candy to hand out for me, put up sign on front door, get costumes on both kids, then put winter coats over them so nobody will be able to tell what they're dressed as, and rush over to my brother's house. If I'm 2 minutes late I'm sure my sister in law will start taking her kids around without me. Cuz everything's always on her damned stay-at-home-mom schedule.
Payoff will be later tonight, sneaking Reese cups out of Tommy's bag o candy.
My town(and the others in the area) postponed beggars night until Saturday due to some cold temps.
In my day, it would be sleeting and we would go out. No rest until the pillow case is half full.
Give out candy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
My town(and the others in the area) postponed beggars night until Saturday due to some cold temps.
In my day, it would be sleeting and we would go out. No rest until the pillow case is half full.
Yeah, postponing it? That's fucking pussy... rain or shine, sleet or snow... it's like having a mailman's creed as a kid.
Pottery class. :)
Kids are all too big for trick-or-treating and too young to appreciate giving out candy, so I'm expecting my house to be egged when I get home. :glare:
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
My town(and the others in the area) postponed beggars night until Saturday due to some cold temps.
In my day, it would be sleeting and we would go out. No rest until the pillow case is half full.
Young Ed Anger on Halloween.
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Taking Carl out trick or treating. :)
His costume turned out awesome, if I do say so myself. :D He's a samurai, in full armour. Pics to follow later.
No kids here, so it's not an important night for me. The tower keeps children from entering, so I don't even have to worry about seeing them.
Turning all the lights off, locking the doors and pretend no one's home. Like I've done for 20 years.
Quote from: Malthus on October 31, 2012, 02:43:46 PM
Taking Carl out trick or treating. :)
His costume turned out awesome, if I do say so myself. :D He's a samurai, in full armour. Pics to follow later.
The baby is dressed up like a skeleton. My toddler was supposed to be a pirate but he made such a fuss at the custome store he ended up being Thomas the Tank Engine. Ah well it is all trains all the time it seems.
Quote from: derspiess on October 31, 2012, 02:20:35 PM
Pick up kids, rush home, give neighbors a bucket of candy to hand out for me, put up sign on front door, get costumes on both kids, then put winter coats over them so nobody will be able to tell what they're dressed as, and rush over to my brother's house. If I'm 2 minutes late I'm sure my sister in law will start taking her kids around without me. Cuz everything's always on her damned stay-at-home-mom schedule.
Payoff will be later tonight, sneaking Reese cups out of Tommy's bag o candy.
As an adult, surely honestly obtained Reese's cups are not beyond your grasp? :P
Watch movies, have sex, go to sleep early. That's what's on my schedule anyway.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 31, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 31, 2012, 02:20:35 PM
Pick up kids, rush home, give neighbors a bucket of candy to hand out for me, put up sign on front door, get costumes on both kids, then put winter coats over them so nobody will be able to tell what they're dressed as, and rush over to my brother's house. If I'm 2 minutes late I'm sure my sister in law will start taking her kids around without me. Cuz everything's always on her damned stay-at-home-mom schedule.
Payoff will be later tonight, sneaking Reese cups out of Tommy's bag o candy.
As an adult, surely honestly obtained Reese's cups are not beyond your grasp? :P
Watch movies, have sex, go to sleep early. That's what's on my schedule anyway.
Part of the fun of being a parent is inspecting their candy and exacting a toll. Reese cups, snickers and smarties being the targets.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
Part of the fun of being a parent is inspecting their candy and exacting a toll. Reese cups, snickers and smarties being the targets.
I call it "Daddy Tax". Never too early for them to learn what taxes are like.
Quote from: derspiess on October 31, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
Part of the fun of being a parent is inspecting their candy and exacting a toll. Reese cups, snickers and smarties being the targets.
I call it "Daddy Tax". Never too early for them to learn what taxes are like.
In that case you should take a third of his candy and redistribute it to the kids who got less trick-or-treating.
Quote from: derspiess on October 31, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
Part of the fun of being a parent is inspecting their candy and exacting a toll. Reese cups, snickers and smarties being the targets.
I call it "Daddy Tax". Never too early for them to learn what taxes are like.
Libertarian fathers call it a fee for services rendered.
I miss going out with the boys. They shouldnt be allowed to grow up so fast.
Enjoy this time.
Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 31, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
Part of the fun of being a parent is inspecting their candy and exacting a toll. Reese cups, snickers and smarties being the targets.
I call it "Daddy Tax". Never too early for them to learn what taxes are like.
In that case you should take a third of his candy and redistribute it to the kids who got less trick-or-treating.
Or, take a third of his candy,
say you are going to reditribute it to needy kids, and instead give it to your wife to bribe your wife into giving you a BJ.
Have the kid learn the harsh realities of politics! :D
Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 31, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 31, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
Part of the fun of being a parent is inspecting their candy and exacting a toll. Reese cups, snickers and smarties being the targets.
I call it "Daddy Tax". Never too early for them to learn what taxes are like.
In that case you should take a third of his candy and redistribute it to the kids who got less trick-or-treating.
Then tell him that next year you are outsourcing his candy collecting duties to his younger sibling or cousin who will do it for less of a cut.
Drinking in an illuminated part of the city. :)
Quote from: Valmy on October 31, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 31, 2012, 02:43:46 PM
Taking Carl out trick or treating. :)
His costume turned out awesome, if I do say so myself. :D He's a samurai, in full armour. Pics to follow later.
The baby is dressed up like a skeleton. My toddler was supposed to be a pirate but he made such a fuss at the custome store he ended up being Thomas the Tank Engine. Ah well it is all trains all the time it seems.
:D
Timmy has already moved past Thomas it seems, though not trains in general. He loves playing with his wooden trains, and he often wants to also have the Mighty Machines episode on trains playing (for inspiration I guess).
We got him a batman costume, which he kind of liked, but he really doesn't know from batman. And it turned out to be too small anyways. So at another store we found an elephant costume. Timmy likes elephants as much as he likes trains.
Baby has a pumpkin costume. He looks cute in it of course. But all he'll do in that costume is get driven over to his grandparents to be shown off by my wife. :)
Think I'll make a sky pirate costume for next year.
But apparently Timmy, when asked, doesn't want to go out trick or treating, or at lest doesn't want to wear his elephant costume. :(
I bet he'll change his mind when the first kids come by.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 31, 2012, 03:37:18 PM
I miss going out with the boys. They shouldnt be allowed to grow up so fast.
Enjoy this time.
Yep. Halloween is second only to Christmas as far as best days to be the parent of a young child, but it was close for us. My ex-mother in law was great at making costumes, off the top of my head I remember an amazing Snow White and great gypsy costume she made by hand. I miss how excited the kids were about their costumes.
And it's not even midnight yet,
QuoteThree men were shot and one was stabbed on Halloween night in Baltimore, according to Baltimore police.
About 7:18 p.m., police responded to the 1000 block of N. Broadway in the Gay Street neighborhood of East Baltimore, just north of the Kennedy Krieger Institute and Johns Hopkins Hospital, and found a man shot, police said.
About 8:16 p.m., police said another man was found shot in the 5300 block of Carriage Court in the Westgate neighborhood of Southwest Baltimore, just south of North Bend Elementary school.
About 8:30 p.m., police were called to a Southwest Baltimore area hospital where a man had arrived with a gunshot wound to the arm, police said.
Silbert said detectives were looking into whether the two Southwest shootings were related.
Police were also investigating the stabbing of a man that occurred about 6:10 p.m. at the intersection of S. Carey and James streets in the Washington Village/Pigtown neighborhood, near Carroll Park in South Baltimore.
Watching movies and ignoring doorbell.
Halloween happened yesterday in this part of the world. We had dinner at home, and stayed home for the rest of the night. Just like most nights.
Gave out candy. Ran out of candy. Noticed that most kids are driven door to door rather then walked. I don't mind parents keeping an eye on them, but that's a little much.
Quote from: Barrister on October 31, 2012, 03:56:24 PM
But apparently Timmy, when asked, doesn't want to go out trick or treating, or at lest doesn't want to wear his elephant costume. :(
I bet he'll change his mind when the first kids come by.
Cripes - we had a major toddler meltdown at first. Didn't want to go outside, didn't want to put on his costume, but did want candy. "Candy!".
After awhile we did manage to convince him to just go outside - and that he had to wear the jack-o-lantern cosrtume (it was meant for his baby brother, but it was easier to put on him).
Then of course, predictably, he had a blast. He only made it to 3 houses (it's -7C) but got lots of candy and still looked cute as a bug.
Then he happily gave out candy the rest of the night. As other kids would come to the door he'd drop one single piece of candy in their bags (we'd then drop a handful in) and would say "happy halloween" or "treat or treat" to everyone.
:)
:)
Gave out candy to a large amount of kids. Had three bowls of candy, for kids to be given quality in accordance with the excellence of their outfits. The lowest bowl was just for show though, so even kids with relatively meh outfits could feel like they were doing somewhat well.
Went to a local nerd bar with some friends.
Nerd bar? :huh:
A bar. That caters to nerds.
We handed out candy. Last year we ran out and probably had 100 kids or something (had to run to the store to resupply). This year we had too much candy and only got about 50, due to the torrential downpour.
Only one uncostumed teenager, everyone else at least made a token effort or better. We had two different toddlers walk straight into our house in spite of the howling canine. We also had one adultish person who showed up on his own, but he was in a pretty sweet zombie outfit with makeup and everything and acted like a zombie so he got candy too.
Never thought about the different grades of candy to hand out. Next year that's what we'll do.
Quote from: Habbaku on October 31, 2012, 11:55:05 PM
A bar. That caters to nerds.
Sorry i still don't understand.
When a man and a woman love each other very, very much, they will occasionally have a kid that will never feel the touch of a woman.
Quote from: Habbaku on November 01, 2012, 12:02:27 AM
When a man and a woman love each other very, very much, they will occasionally have a kid that will never feel the touch of a woman.
And these people have whole bars for them!?!?!?!
Quote from: katmai on November 01, 2012, 12:14:44 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 01, 2012, 12:02:27 AM
When a man and a woman love each other very, very much, they will occasionally have a kid that will never feel the touch of a woman.
And these people have whole bars for them!?!?!?!
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Quote from: katmai on October 31, 2012, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 31, 2012, 11:55:05 PM
A bar. That caters to nerds.
Sorry i still don't understand.
There are at least a couple of them in Vancouver. One is called XP Bar and has gaming consoles at all the tables (or that was the plan, but apparently they ran into problems with the arcane liquor licensing laws; not sure if that's resolved). The other one is apparently full of board games of various sorts for the patrons to play.
I have been to neither, but I'll probably check them out eventually.
The kid had a blast as always, and complained that halloween only comes once a year - but man was the weather terrible. A miserable drizzling rain the whole time.
Far fewer kids than usual, due no doubt to the shitty weather. Kids still went out, but not for as long. Everyone was in costume, most of them quite good.
It was a wednesday.
I went out with a....friend and saw nothing haloweeny happening.
Haloween party things were Saturday and again this coming Saturday- next one to be crazyness in an abandoned hospital in Tokyo :ph34r:
No one came :( I live in too much of an old people neighborhood, urg. Ariel's too young to go door to door but next year! I'll drive to the nice new neighborhood with all the kids & she'll have a wonderfull time.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 08:20:52 AM
The kid had a blast as always, and complained that halloween only comes once a year - but man was the weather terrible. A miserable drizzling rain the whole time.
Far fewer kids than usual, due no doubt to the shitty weather. Kids still went out, but not for as long. Everyone was in costume, most of them quite good.
We had the same crappy weather. Did an abbreviated run of our normal route. Tommy was Boba Fett (with Nikes) and Lola was a garden gnome.
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Quote from: Barrister on October 31, 2012, 02:03:35 PM
I'm taking Timmy out trick-or-treating tonight. It's cold enough I doubt we'll go any further than our own cul-de-sac.
How about you folks?
I thought my step sister (sort of) would come with her girls, so I planned candies for 5 kids. Of course, I bought candies for 15 kids, duh. And she didn't come with her kids, so I'm stuck with a lot of stuff.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 08:20:52 AM
The kid had a blast as always, and complained that halloween only comes once a year - but man was the weather terrible. A miserable drizzling rain the whole time.
Far fewer kids than usual, due no doubt to the shitty weather. Kids still went out, but not for as long. Everyone was in costume, most of them quite good.
We had the same crappy weather. Did an abbreviated run of our normal route. Tommy was Boba Fett (with Nikes) and Lola was a garden gnome.
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Ahhh sooo cute! :wub:
I gotta get my pics up tonight. Carl was a samurai. Fortunately, I made his armour out of plastic, not cardboard, and it was painted with enamels ... so rain-proof. He stayed dry but I got pretty wet, despite umbrella.
I can't fathom not having trick or treaters at all. That would seriously suck.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
I can't fathom not having trick or treaters at all. That would seriously suck.
It happened back when I lived in the apartments downtown. Mostly college kids around me.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
I can't fathom not having trick or treaters at all. That would seriously suck.
It was really sad. My nostalgia got thrown in the gutters. I should have went with my Nephews & Nieces.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
I can't fathom not having trick or treaters at all. That would seriously suck.
I haven't had trick or treaters here in 15 years, except once when a young couple on the 2nd floor stopped by with their toddler when I begged them to save me from my Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
Then again, why the hell does anybody want to climb 3 flights of stairs to hit condos anyway, when there's rows upon rows of townhouses up the street?
Lulz. Love Baltimore race relations.
QuoteeAfter complaints from several people, Cafe Hon removed a picture early Thursday morning of one of its staff members in blackface for Halloween.
The Hampden restaurant had posted the photo on its Facebook page. It showed an employee, in blackface, apparently dressed for Halloween as Whitney Houston, singing with a smudge of white powder around the nose.
"We humbly apologize for our misjudgement in posting a Halloween picture, we have removed the picture," Cafe Hon said on Facebook early Thursday.
But some people were still upset.
"NO. It was blackface," wrote John Flannery. "Always wrong. Period. No excuse."
And LCarmen LShorter wrote: "It wasn't the 'Halloween picture.' It was that you had one of YOUR WHITE STAFF PERFORMING IN BLACKFACE IN 2012. It was a RACIST picture--of a RACIST performance, sponsored by your company."
Others defended the restaurant, like Lisa Krampf, who called it, "Just a girl having fun on Halloween for pete's sake!"
QuoteOthers defended the restaurant, like Lisa Krampf, who called it, "Just a girl having fun on Halloween for pete's sake!"
Yeah well people had fun at Minstrel Shows as well.
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
Advice I've heard is to wear a mask, for example, if you want to go as Obama. "Blackface" simply has too much in the way of unfortunate history to it. By wearing a mask, it is more obvious you are targeting the individual, not the race.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
The problem is blackface.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
Advice I've heard is to wear a mask, for example, if you want to go as Obama. "Blackface" simply has too much in the way of unfortunate history to it. By wearing a mask, it is more obvious you are targeting the individual, not the race.
So then you're limited to whomever masks are made for :(
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
Knew a guy that went as OJ Simpson once, wearing an orange jumpsuit and a glove. Everybody knew who it was, and no black face needed. Same could go for a Cosby sweater if it's ugly enough. :P
WHY MUST YOU ALWAYS ONLY SEE SKIN COLOR DERSPIESS
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:19:39 AM
So then you're limited to whomever masks are made for :(
Making your own isn't hard, if you don't insist on total realism.
A cheap-n-easy way is to simply get a full-face photo, stick it on a flat bit of cardboard, and cut out the shape, around the mouth, and the eyeholes, mount it on a stick, and use it like a Venetian-style mask (that is, you hold the mask in front of your face on the stick).
That way, you can do a characature of any celeb you want: the fun is in the caracature outfit to match.
Extra fun: make the mask double-sided by having a different pic on the other side (either the same person with a radically different expression, or a totally different person). Then, you can switch back and forth.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 01, 2012, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
Knew a guy that went as OJ Simpson once, wearing an orange jumpsuit and a glove. Everybody knew who it was, and no black face needed. Same could go for a Cosby sweater if it's ugly enough. :P
WHY MUST YOU ALWAYS ONLY SEE SKIN COLOR DERSPIESS
Could've been Michael Jackson. Sorta.
Anyway, I'm sure there were OJ masks in the 90s.
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 10:24:36 AM
A cheap-n-easy way is to simply get a full-face photo, stick it on a flat bit of cardboard, and cut out the shape, around the mouth, and the eyeholes, mount it on a stick, and use it like a Venetian-style mask (that is, you hold the mask in front of your face on the stick).
That way, you can do a characature of any celeb you want: the fun is in the caracature outfit to match.
My best friend's little girl has a Shannon Sharpe mask-thingie like that she got at a Broncos game and she uses it all the time. Hilarious to see his big face on some 5-year old white girl's body.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
So is it always off limits if a white person happens to want to dress up as a black celebrity to either imitate or mock that celebrity? If not, then how does one pull that off?
Oh come on man. I know you are a yankee but even you should know why blackface is not cool.
You can still make fun of celebrities but not like that.
Quote from: Valmy on November 01, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
Oh come on man. I know you are a yankee but even you should know why blackface is not cool.
You can still make fun of celebrities but not like that.
If we're talking *real* blackface, like Seedy's mammies, then yeah. But putting on brown makeup to look more like someone you're dressing up as, I don't think that should offend. I know that it does-- I'm just saying it shouldn't in Obama's post-racial America.
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
Why you gotta drag my mammies into this? They give my kitchen a southern flair.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
If we're talking *real* blackface, like Seedy's mammies, then yeah. But putting on brown makeup to look more like someone you're dressing up as, I don't think that should offend. I know that it does-- I'm just saying it shouldn't in Obama's post-racial America.
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
It's too soon. Gotta wait at least until the Civil Rights generation dies out. As long as this stuff is still in living memory, at the very least, you gotta be smart about it. It is not like we are talking ancient history here.
As far as the red headed thing LOL. Come on.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
That's not insulting to red heads, that's insulting to quarterbacks. :P
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
I'm just saying it shouldn't in Obama's post-racial America.
Camille Paglia said he's made America more divisive on race than before he was elected.
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
Camille Paglia said he's made America more divisive on race than before he was elected.
Of course he has: after all, The Black Man has a right to be successful in America, but he can't be
too successful. Cracker Nation has issues with that.
Quote from: Valmy on November 01, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
If we're talking *real* blackface, like Seedy's mammies, then yeah. But putting on brown makeup to look more like someone you're dressing up as, I don't think that should offend. I know that it does-- I'm just saying it shouldn't in Obama's post-racial America.
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
It's too soon. Gotta wait at least until the Civil Rights generation dies out. As long as this stuff is still in living memory, at the very least, you gotta be smart about it. It is not like we are talking ancient history here.
As far as the red headed thing LOL. Come on.
Crap. Waiting out the Civil War generation was boring enough.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 01, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
That's not insulting to red heads, that's insulting to quarterbacks. :P
Within earshot of my brother I asked him to show me how he throws pick-6's on the would-be comeback drive.
Quote from: Valmy on November 01, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
If we're talking *real* blackface, like Seedy's mammies, then yeah. But putting on brown makeup to look more like someone you're dressing up as, I don't think that should offend. I know that it does-- I'm just saying it shouldn't in Obama's post-racial America.
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
It's too soon. Gotta wait at least until the Civil Rights generation dies out. As long as this stuff is still in living memory, at the very least, you gotta be smart about it. It is not like we are talking ancient history here.
Yes, you are.
If you're talking about "real blackface", it's use pretty much died out in the 1930s, and absolutely completely died out by the 60s. Blackface was a Vaudeville staple for goodness sakes, and vaudeville has been dead and buried for a long, long time.
I'm with derspeiss. I understand that some people find it offensive so I wouldn't do it, but I don't really agree with those that find it offensive.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 01, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
I mean my nephew used red hair spray to go trick-or-treating as Andy Dalton. Should redheads get all huffy & puffy over something like that?
That's not insulting to red heads, that's insulting to quarterbacks. :P
Within earshot of my brother I asked him to show me how he throws pick-6's on the would-be comeback drive.
:lol:
"No, I didn't say Klinger, I said Dalton!"
Quote from: Valmy on November 01, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
It's too soon. Gotta wait at least until the Civil Rights generation dies out. As long as this stuff is still in living memory, at the very least, you gotta be smart about it. It is not like we are talking ancient history here.
I'm only saying it shouldn't be a big deal. I know full well that it is.
QuoteAs far as the red headed thing LOL. Come on.
You laugh, but there's a growing ginger consciousness movement. I look forward to checking both redhead *and* Hispandex on my daughter's college application.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 01, 2012, 01:46:52 PM
:lol: "No, I didn't say Klinger, I said Dalton!"
:D Klinger's specialty was keeping the Bengals out of the entire game. Dalton was great last year in the 4th quarter, but for some reason he's choking in the 4th quarter this year.
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
I'm just saying it shouldn't in Obama's post-racial America.
Camille Paglia said he's made America more divisive on race than before he was elected.
I wasn't being 100% serious. And I love me some Camille :)
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
You laugh, but there's a growing ginger consciousness movement.
I blame Brit pop culture.
QuoteI look forward to checking both redhead *and* Hispandex on my daughter's college application.
lulz, a ginger gaucho.
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 09:24:35 AM
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OHMYGOD!!!! She is too adorable! :wub: :wub: :wub:
Quote from: Barrister on November 01, 2012, 01:46:09 PM
Yes, you are.
If you're talking about "real blackface", it's use pretty much died out in the 1930s, and absolutely completely died out by the 60s. Blackface was a Vaudeville staple for goodness sakes, and vaudeville has been dead and buried for a long, long time.
I'm with derspeiss. I understand that some people find it offensive so I wouldn't do it, but I don't really agree with those that find it offensive.
Vaudeville struggled on into the 50s. And that is not ancient history those people are still around. And you say all this, acting like these issues are long sense dead and buried and then turn right around and say, absurdly, that you understand why people find it offensive. If you think it is ancient history, and out of living memory with no existing impact on culture and society, then what exactly is your understanding of what makes it offensive?
Anyway racism, and its symbols, are going away in this country but it is not ancient history yet. Personally I do not find things like blackface offensive so much as painful.
Quote from: Valmy on November 01, 2012, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 01, 2012, 01:46:09 PM
Yes, you are.
If you're talking about "real blackface", it's use pretty much died out in the 1930s, and absolutely completely died out by the 60s. Blackface was a Vaudeville staple for goodness sakes, and vaudeville has been dead and buried for a long, long time.
I'm with derspeiss. I understand that some people find it offensive so I wouldn't do it, but I don't really agree with those that find it offensive.
Vaudeville struggled on into the 50s. And that is not ancient history those people are still around. And you say all this, acting like these issues are long sense dead and buried and then turn right around and say, absurdly, that you understand why people find it offensive. If you think it is ancient history, and out of living memory with no existing impact on culture and society, then what exactly is your understanding of what makes it offensive?
Anyway racism, and its symbols, are going away in this country but it is not ancient history yet. Personally I do not find things like blackface offensive so much as painful.
Allergy?
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
You laugh, but there's a growing ginger consciousness movement. I look forward to checking both redhead *and* Hispandex on my daughter's college application.
I do not really understand everybody's desire to invent new identities and conciousnesses. There is no ginger prejudice in the US anyway, that is a UK thing.
Quote from: Valmy on November 01, 2012, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
You laugh, but there's a growing ginger consciousness movement. I look forward to checking both redhead *and* Hispandex on my daughter's college application.
I do not really understand everybody's desire to invent new identities and conciousnesses. There is no ginger prejudice in the US anyway, that is a UK thing.
Victimization (real or imagined) --> Grievance --> Protected Status --> Profit
And why would that happen with hair color? That's something one can change at a whim.
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
And why would that happen with hair color? That's something one can change at a whim.
I suppose black folks can do similar things to whiten up their appearance. And homogays can act straight if they don't want to be treated differently.
RED PRIDE
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
And why would that happen with hair color? That's something one can change at a whim.
I suppose black folks can do similar things to whiten up their appearance. And homogays can act straight if they don't want to be treated differently.
RED PRIDE
They'd largely still be called black and many gays can try but a) still are found out and b) are still actually gay. Hair color is much more mutable than those other two. Just ask most "blondes".
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 01, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
And why would that happen with hair color? That's something one can change at a whim.
I suppose black folks can do similar things to whiten up their appearance. And homogays can act straight if they don't want to be treated differently.
RED PRIDE
They'd largely still be called black and many gays can try but a) still are found out and b) are still actually gay. Hair color is much more mutable than those other two. Just ask most "blondes".
Redheads can be outed, too.
But that's all beside the point: why should they *have* to change? Society should just accept them!!
My point was that anyone can become a redhead. A bit hard to change your sexual preference or "race".
Quote from: garbon on November 01, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
My point was that anyone can become a redhead. A bit hard to change your sexual preference or "race".
Michael Jackson did at least one of those :P
Well he went alien. That's not the same as becoming another race. :P
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
I can't fathom not having trick or treaters at all. That would seriously suck.
Don't get any coming around here,18f/-7celsius is a big factor. :P
Quote from: katmai on November 01, 2012, 05:11:19 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 01, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
I can't fathom not having trick or treaters at all. That would seriously suck.
Don't get any coming around here,18f/-7celsius is a big factor. :P
Pftt. Same temperature here last night, we got kids. Not as many as if it was warm, but we got a bunch of kids.