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Title: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 02:09:36 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2012/0706/Are-you-more-or-less-conservative-than-Mitt-Romney-Take-our-quiz/How-do-you-view-health-care-reform-in-this-country

QuoteRomney all the way!

For the most part, you agree with Romney's ideas. You consider yourself a Republican, and you're ready for the GOP to take back the White House!

I wasn't actually expecting that.  Of course, quiz has a few odd places where you are like, none of those options quite fit.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: sbr on October 16, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
That's got to be a tough quiz to grade considering how often and how far Romney's positions move
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Martinus on October 16, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
You lean left.

You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Jacob on October 16, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
Surprisingly, I'm a lefty and I won't be voting for Romney... which is very true!

When I saw the option re: China "Just nuke China already and get it over with" I thought of CdM.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 16, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
When I saw the option re: China "Just nuke China already and get it over with" I thought of CdM.

Me too. :D
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Viking on October 16, 2012, 02:28:39 PM
Is this some trick question where I am more conservative than massachusetts governor mitt romney, as conservative as olympics administrator mitt romney, less conservative than batshit primary mitt romeny and slightly to the left of presidential candidate mitt romney?
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 02:55:26 PM
I found out that I was less likely to fill out an 18 question test to determine something I already knew.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 02:58:05 PM
I'm both much more conservative and much more liberal than Mitt Romney.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 16, 2012, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 16, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
You lean left.

You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.

Same result as Martinus.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
QuoteYour results
You lean left.
You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.

Sounds right.

Riley had us take a quiz at Vote Smart (http://votesmart.org/voteeasy/?utm_campaign=voteeasy&utm_source=votesmart&utm_medium=homepagead). As Max said, it's not exactly nuanced, but it's still fun to see where you fall.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Riley had us take a quiz at Vote Smart (http://votesmart.org/voteeasy/?utm_campaign=voteeasy&utm_source=votesmart&utm_medium=homepagead). As Max said, it's not exactly nuanced, but it's still fun to see where you fall.

I got told to vote for Gary Johnson. <_<

Though all were in a range of 10% from each other except whatever that Constitution party was (same % for Obama and Romney!).

One issue I have with quizzes like that is them updated your % of each candidate after each question could lead people to answer differently for balance.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: mongers on October 16, 2012, 03:22:10 PM
I don't accept the premiss of the question, I don't think Romney is at all conservative in the sense I know the word to mean, speaking as a one nation Tory; Romney and his corporate raiding ilk have been prepared to tear down any long standing business institution or social compact in the pursuit of short term profits for themselves.

If anything I see them sharing some of the characteristics of the Khmer Rouge, rather than the centre right; And yet plenty of conservatives seem to have convinced themselves these are the guys to be trusted and elected as leaders.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 16, 2012, 03:22:10 PM
I don't accept the premiss of the question, I don't think Romney is at all conservative in the sense I know the word to mean, speaking as a one nation Tory; Romney and his corporate raiding ilk have been prepared to tear down any long standing business institution or social compact in the pursuit of short term profits for themselves.

If anything I see them sharing some of the characteristics of the Khmer Rouge, rather than the centre right; And yet plenty of conservatives seem to have convinced themselves these are the guys to be trusted and elected as leaders.

Then this quiz wasn't for you. :mellow:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 03:26:41 PM
Ok, now I'm going to take it for real. 
QuoteRomney all the way!

For the most part, you agree with Romney's ideas. You consider yourself a Republican, and you're ready for the GOP to take back the White House!
WTF?  This makes no sense at all.  I wasn't trolling it.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 03:18:45 PM
I got told to vote for Gary Johnson. <_<

Though all were in a range of 10% from each other except whatever that Constitution party was (same % for Obama and Romney!).

One issue I have with quizzes like that is them updated your % of each candidate after each question could lead people to answer differently for balance.

Heh. I get 89% Obama, 72% Jill Stein (Green), and 70% Rocky Anderson (Justice??). Only 29% Romney, 23% Virgil Goode (Constitution Party), and 40% Gary Johnson (Libertarian).
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 16, 2012, 03:29:24 PM
What's with the "shows courage" and "lacks courage" monikers? Seems the ones that "show courage" are those who never managed to be elected to anything.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: dps on October 16, 2012, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 02:09:36 PM
Of course, quiz has a few odd places where you are like, none of those options quite fit.

That's an understatement, or at least it would be for me.  There was only 1 question that had any possible answer that I wouldn't consider an extreme distortion of my position.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 16, 2012, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 03:26:41 PM
Ok, now I'm going to take it for real. 
QuoteRomney all the way!

For the most part, you agree with Romney's ideas. You consider yourself a Republican, and you're ready for the GOP to take back the White House!
WTF?  This makes no sense at all.  I wasn't trolling it.

:nelson:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Riley had us take a quiz at Vote Smart (http://votesmart.org/voteeasy/?utm_campaign=voteeasy&utm_source=votesmart&utm_medium=homepagead). As Max said, it's not exactly nuanced, but it's still fun to see where you fall.

I got told to vote for Gary Johnson. <_<



So it's actually an IQ test?  That's kinda clever for something called "Vote Smart".
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2012, 03:26:41 PM
Ok, now I'm going to take it for real. 
QuoteRomney all the way!

For the most part, you agree with Romney's ideas. You consider yourself a Republican, and you're ready for the GOP to take back the White House!
WTF?  This makes no sense at all.  I wasn't trolling it.

:hug:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 03:29:24 PM
What's with the "shows courage" and "lacks courage" monikers? Seems the ones that "show courage" are those who never managed to be elected to anything.  :hmm:

The "Shows Courage" candidates actually answered a series of questions (probably the same ones we answer in the poll). Those who "lack courage" didn't bother.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 03:29:24 PM
What's with the "shows courage" and "lacks courage" monikers? Seems the ones that "show courage" are those who never managed to be elected to anything.  :hmm:

Yeah, I didn't really understand that either.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on October 16, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
QuoteRomney all the way!

For the most part, you agree with Romney's ideas. You consider yourself a Republican, and you're ready for the GOP to take back the White House!
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Sheilbh on October 16, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
QuoteYour results
You lean left.
You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.

Sounds right.

Riley had us take a quiz at Vote Smart (http://votesmart.org/voteeasy/?utm_campaign=voteeasy&utm_source=votesmart&utm_medium=homepagead). As Max said, it's not exactly nuanced, but it's still fun to see where you fall.
I got the same as you.

On Vote Smart I got 70% Rocky Anderson (:blink:), 69% Obama, 58% Stein, 56% Johnson, 45% Romney and 39% Goode :mellow:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: dps on October 16, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 16, 2012, 03:29:24 PM
What's with the "shows courage" and "lacks courage" monikers? Seems the ones that "show courage" are those who never managed to be elected to anything.  :hmm:

The "Shows Courage" candidates actually answered a series of questions (probably the same ones we answer in the poll). Those who "lack courage" didn't bother.

The implication is that those who "lack courage" didn't want to give a straight answer to the questions.  Of course, for the most part, they've addressed those issues in other places, and as you say, didn't bother repeating the same things for some obscure internet site.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: dps on October 16, 2012, 03:54:15 PM

The implication is that those who "lack courage" didn't want to give a straight answer to the questions.  Of course, for the most part, they've addressed those issues in other places, and as you say, didn't bother repeating the same things for some obscure internet site.

Hmm... the bolded part is a bit questionable, don't you think? Romney has alluded to answers, but never actually given hard responses. Obama has done the same on some issues.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: dps on October 16, 2012, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 16, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: dps on October 16, 2012, 03:54:15 PM

The implication is that those who "lack courage" didn't want to give a straight answer to the questions.  Of course, for the most part, they've addressed those issues in other places, and as you say, didn't bother repeating the same things for some obscure internet site.

Hmm... the bolded part is a bit questionable, don't you think? Romney has alluded to answers, but never actually given hard responses. Obama has done the same on some issues.

Well, my emphasis would be more on "for the most part".    :)
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 16, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
When I saw the option re: China "Just nuke China already and get it over with" I thought of CdM.

Me too. :D

Easiest answer in that quiz.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2012, 04:15:10 PM
lulz

QuoteYour results
You lean left.

You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Ed Anger on October 16, 2012, 06:02:06 PM
Romney all the way!

For the most part, you agree with Romney's ideas. You consider yourself a Republican, and you're ready for the GOP to take back the White House!


Lol. I guess that means I'll buy more toaster strudel.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 06:12:48 PM
Same as Seedy. Did not expect differently.

Solution to the US deficit problem : 5% federal good & services tax.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: derspiess on October 16, 2012, 06:19:48 PM
QuoteCongratulations! You're more conservative than Mitt Romney!

You're a proud member of the GOP, and you might even identify with the tea party movement. You're probably worried that if elected, Romney won't always act as conservative as he says he is.

Shocking!
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: garbon on October 16, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 06:12:48 PM
Same as Seedy. Did not expect differently.

Solution to the US deficit problem : 5% federal good & services tax.

Why you hate poor people?
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Scipio on October 16, 2012, 07:34:12 PM
I answered totally libertarian, and then I compared my answers with what they said were Romney's policies.  Even though for 18 questions I chose something other than Romney's options, including immediate removal from Afghanistan and cutting the military budget, they said I agreed with Romney.  I think this may not be a very good poll.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Josquius on October 16, 2012, 08:14:21 PM
Its a bit stupid.
QuoteThe right to bear arms is totally outdated. Far too many people die from gun violence in the US each year. Guns should be banned entirely; only the military should use them.
Come on. That's an obvious right wingers take on socialist. Nobody thinks they should be banned entirely, in most countries with good gun control they're not banned entirely.

Bloody hell, thats not even the worst:
QuoteFossil fuels and CO2 emissions should be banned from America. Everyone should use public transportation or ride their bikes.
:bleeding:

but then also....
QuoteThe US should always be No. 1! Let's just nuke China and get it over with.


My results:
Quote
You're more than a little liberal.

You're a lefty! You might even be more liberal than President Obama. You won't be voting for Romney come November.
I might be more liberal than Obama? Duh. He's a conservative.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Sophie Scholl on October 16, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
I got "left leaning" on the first quiz and then 79% Anderson, 78% Obama, 76% Stein, 41% Johnson, 30% Goode, and I can't see how Romney because it's too small.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: katmai on October 16, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Quote
You lean left.

You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Caliga on October 18, 2012, 01:27:43 PM
On VoteSmart I got 71% for Jill Stein (Green) and 70% for Gary Johnson (Libertarian).  This doesn't seem to make much sense.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Grey Fox on October 18, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 16, 2012, 06:12:48 PM
Same as Seedy. Did not expect differently.

Solution to the US deficit problem : 5% federal good & services tax.

Why you hate poor people?

I don't. If you are poor the government can give back 5% of your income! I'm trying to help all of america. You guys need it.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: derspiess on October 18, 2012, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 18, 2012, 01:27:43 PM
On VoteSmart I got 71% for Jill Stein (Green) and 70% for Gary Johnson (Libertarian).  This doesn't seem to make much sense.

Ah, yeah.  The Gary Johnson one makes sense by itself, but I wouldn't expect you to get more than 50% for a Green candidate.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Josquius on October 18, 2012, 07:53:09 PM
I got Obama 94, Anderson 84 and Stein 79. Though I think the health care ones tricked me.
Strange outcome.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Fireblade on October 20, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
QuoteYou're more than a little liberal.

You're a lefty! You might even be more liberal than President Obama. You won't be voting for Romney come November.

I did not see that coming.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: Syt on October 20, 2012, 09:27:50 AM
QuoteYou lean left.

You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.

It appears I agree with Mittens on Afghanistan, the budget and student debt.  :huh:
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: The Brain on October 20, 2012, 09:35:35 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 16, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Quote
You lean left.

You might just be a Democrat, or at the very least an independent. You probably agree with most of President Obama's polices, and you understand the importance of government spending and oversight.

Hm. Thought you'd lean forward.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 20, 2012, 10:13:48 AM
Very belated, but chalk up another "lean left."
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: szmik on October 22, 2012, 11:06:52 AM
Choosing libertarian options made me
Quote..... more conservative than Mitt Romney!

You're a proud member of the GOP, and you might even identify with the tea party movement. You're probably worried that if elected, Romney won't always act as conservative as he says he is.
Title: Re: Are you more (or less) conservative than Mitt Romney?
Post by: celedhring on October 22, 2012, 11:19:31 AM
I lean left. Couldn't resist to nuke China, though.