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Title: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: garbon on October 12, 2012, 12:50:41 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/woman-forced-live-squatter-detroit-home-170128148.html

QuoteHeidi Peterson could not believe what was in her Detroit home when she returned after being away for a about year.

A woman named Missionary-Tracey Elaine Blair was living there.

Blair refuses to leave the home. And Peterson and doesn't have the means go anywhere else.

So, in a bizarre twist that includes legal matters, both women are living in the same house: Owner and alleged squatter.

"She thinks that this is a program in Detroit to take people's homes and fix them up and then she gets to keep them," Peterson told MyFoxDetroit.

Peterson said that Blair changed locks, replaced appliances and worked on the plumbing in the older home.  Peterson purchased the home in the historic Boston-Edison neighborhood of Detroit for $23,000, and told MyFoxDetroit she left last year when it was in need of repairs.

Blair, a former tenant of Peterson at the house, said she was evicted in Feb. 2011. "We had to vacate because the boiler was damaged," Blair said.  "I took all my books and my writings, but my (furniture was) still left in (there)."

Blair says she is not squatting and has a lease.

While a squatter does have a legal right to the property, the homeowner cannot just remove a squatter by force, according to the law, MyFoxDetroit notes.  So in this case, like many others, the homeowner Peterson must prove she is the rightful owner of the property in civil court and then seek eviction.

So in the meantime, Blair and Peterson are living under the same roof.

The television piece showed Blair had placed personal photographs along the mantle and even changed the curtains at the house.

Peterson expressed concern for her safety, and the safety of her one-year-old daughter.

"I don't know what her capabilities are," Peterson said. "We're afraid of her mindset of entitlement."

Blair, who is a write-in candidate for president said, "I'm an advocate for affordable housing.  That's a part of my campaign," she said."I signed an oath pledging that I would fight for affordable homes."

Squatting has been an issue in Detroit, where a family recently bought a dream home on the city's west side only to find suspected squatters stripped it of copper, appliances and plumbing.

Similar stories resonate around the country, for example squatter  staked claim a vacant house in Littleton, Colo. and there are familiar instances  in other cities.

Detroit's Peterson will continue to take her case to court, but in the meantime the unusual living arrangement continues.
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Syt on October 12, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
QuoteBlair, who is a write-in candidate for president

:unsure:
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Caliga on October 12, 2012, 12:56:09 PM
Ha, something similar happened to my parents when the fired the live-in manager of their campground and the guy flat-out refused to leave.  So basically my dad was going up there every weekend to work, since he couldn't hire a replacement, and had to sleep in a crappy old trailer in the campground itself while that fucking douche got to live in my dad's house (which was actually fairly nice).

Eventually the law came down on his ass and he was forced out, but it look almost an entire year. :bleeding:
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2012, 01:01:03 PM
 :wacko:
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: The Brain on October 12, 2012, 01:04:50 PM
I sometimes squat at the side of the road.
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: garbon on October 12, 2012, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 12, 2012, 01:04:50 PM
I sometimes squat at the side of the road.

Ok DraftWarMongers
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2012, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 12, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
QuoteBlair, who is a write-in candidate for president

:unsure:

Hey, she signed an oath pledging that she would fight for affordable homes.
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2012, 01:55:21 PM
Hey, she signed an oath pledging that she would fight for affordable homes.

Physically.
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Phillip V on October 12, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
Where is the father of the one-year-old child?
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2012, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on October 12, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
Where is the father of the one-year-old child?

Gone a year ago, most likely.  :P
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Phillip V on October 12, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2012, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on October 12, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
Where is the father of the one-year-old child?

Gone a year ago, most likely.  :P
Put your tongue away. We must weep for the abandoned mixed-race child. :cry:
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Maximus on October 12, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Ok Lettow
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: jimmy olsen on October 13, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus on October 12, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Ok Lettow
Isn't Phillip V an American who is dark skinned south/southeast asian?
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Maximus on October 13, 2012, 11:16:50 AM
Possibly. Your point?
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Martinus on October 13, 2012, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 13, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus on October 12, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Ok Lettow
Isn't Phillip V an American who is dark skinned south/southeast asian?

Maximus's question notwithstanding, why the use of "American" there? Why would it be relevant to your otherwise failed point?
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on October 14, 2012, 05:55:11 AM
These stories come up a lot but it always ends up there is more nuance than you'd first think. Like in Cal's story, if an AP journalist just got a hold of it they'd say, "Man has to sleep in trailer while squatter lives in his home." The reality in that situation (and the one in this article) is at some point the squatter had a legal right of residence and in most jurisdictions if someone has at some point a legal right to live on the property then if they decline to leave the property when that right has expired the only legal remedy is an eviction proceeding.

In the case of the article here it's basically a landlord-tenant issue, the woman was renting the house at one point and was told that she was evicted and left, but she came back later and said she had some form of agreement to do repairs to the house in exchange for living there. Almost certainly BS for sure, but it's got enough veneer on it that you'd have to go through eviction proceedings.

If I came home from work tomorrow and some random dude was in our house (this is in fantasy land where I wouldn't immediately shoot and kill him as is my right as a Virginian in response to anyone stupid enough to enter my home illegally) I could have him thrown out under ordinary trespassing statutes because he had never been invited into my home in any form. However, the moment someone has been invited in and invited to stay as a resident then in most states you'll have to evict them.

I've heard of a case in Florida where a woman let her friend live with her for free in an extra bedroom while her friend got back on her feet economically. After a year or two the homeowner got tired of her friend and told her to leave, the friend refused. The homeowner calls the police who after studying the situation inform the homeowner that the friend is a legal tenant because she had been invited to live there and the homeowner would have to pursue eviction to have her removed. Something to keep in mind before you let people randomly live with you.
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Martinus on October 14, 2012, 10:06:31 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 14, 2012, 05:55:11 AM
These stories come up a lot but it always ends up there is more nuance than you'd first think. Like in Cal's story, if an AP journalist just got a hold of it they'd say, "Man has to sleep in trailer while squatter lives in his home." The reality in that situation (and the one in this article) is at some point the squatter had a legal right of residence and in most jurisdictions if someone has at some point a legal right to live on the property then if they decline to leave the property when that right has expired the only legal remedy is an eviction proceeding.

In the case of the article here it's basically a landlord-tenant issue, the woman was renting the house at one point and was told that she was evicted and left, but she came back later and said she had some form of agreement to do repairs to the house in exchange for living there. Almost certainly BS for sure, but it's got enough veneer on it that you'd have to go through eviction proceedings.

If I came home from work tomorrow and some random dude was in our house (this is in fantasy land where I wouldn't immediately shoot and kill him as is my right as a Virginian in response to anyone stupid enough to enter my home illegally) I could have him thrown out under ordinary trespassing statutes because he had never been invited into my home in any form. However, the moment someone has been invited in and invited to stay as a resident then in most states you'll have to evict them.

I've heard of a case in Florida where a woman let her friend live with her for free in an extra bedroom while her friend got back on her feet economically. After a year or two the homeowner got tired of her friend and told her to leave, the friend refused. The homeowner calls the police who after studying the situation inform the homeowner that the friend is a legal tenant because she had been invited to live there and the homeowner would have to pursue eviction to have her removed. Something to keep in mind before you let people randomly live with you.

It's the same with vampires.
Title: Re: Woman forced to live with squatter in Detroit home
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 14, 2012, 10:19:26 AM
Stake through the heart works in both cases though.  :ph34r: