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Title: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Martinus on September 17, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Hey guys, have you ever had a situation where a client would make offensive, eg antisemitic remarks in your presence (without knowing you are Jewish)? If so how do you react?

I have it sometimes with homophobic stuff (eg. someone remarks that gays are disgusting) and don't know how to react.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Barrister on September 17, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 17, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Hey guys, have you ever had a situation where a client would make offensive, eg antisemitic remarks in your presence (without knowing you are Jewish)? If so how do you react?

I have it sometimes with homophobic stuff (eg. someone remarks that gays are disgusting) and don't know how to react.

I give them a firm warning that while they may think that way, it is important that they not express such a view in the courtroom.  But I'm a litigator, and you are not.  You're probably in a tough spot, since the client is the one who pays the bill.  You're in a doubly tough spot because you're probably still an associate, and it isn't "your" client, but rather the partner's client.  Ultimately if you're so uncomfortable working for an offensive client you are better off just ceasing to act - but you may not have that option.

But ultimately, no, I don't think you call them on it.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: derspiess on September 17, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Lawyers aren't supposed to have feelings when there's money to be made.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Razgovory on September 17, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
I imagine that happens in Poland more then downtown Manhattan.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Viking on September 17, 2012, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 17, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Lawyers aren't supposed to have feelings when there's money to be made.

In poland they are predjudiced against fags and joos. In civilzed places they are bigoted against lawyers. I suppose all lawyers have to deal with clients that hate them for who they are.

To quote the bard.. "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2012, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 17, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Lawyers aren't supposed to have feelings when there's money to be made.

No kidding.  I thought they removed their emotion chip during the first year, somewhere between Torts I and II.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Ed Anger on September 17, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Bigot's money is just as good as other people's money.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: HVC on September 17, 2012, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 17, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Bigot's money is just as good as other people's money.
Better, because he can feel the extra satisfaction when he goes out and buys something kinky. Like Gold Bond :P
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: The Brain on September 19, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
I usually run crying to the internet.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
I've never encountered this problem - but then, my clients are mostly business-legal professional types. They may well be bigoted, but they generally know better than to express it in a professional setting.  ;)
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Syt on September 19, 2012, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
mostly business-legal professional types

I.e. other Jews. :P
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 19, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
I usually run crying to the internet.

:lol:
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 19, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
I usually run crying to the internet.

:lol:

Yep-- Brain wins another thread.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: Legbiter on September 19, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 17, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Hey guys, have you ever had a situation where a client would make offensive, eg antisemitic remarks in your presence (without knowing you are Jewish)? If so how do you react?

I have it sometimes with homophobic stuff (eg. someone remarks that gays are disgusting) and don't know how to react.

I'm always the consumate professional. Then again, I just don't get alot of customers suddenly holding forth on gays and whatever kills crops/boners among heterosexual men like you do in Poland.

Martinus...I think it's time for you to downgrade your pillow-biting to a side dish of your personality. A thick fruity salad, for sure, but a salad nontheless next to the meat and fat. Make it an incidental part of your personality, like liking MMO's or social democracy.
Title: Re: Question to Joan, Malthus etc. - bigoted clients
Post by: MadImmortalMan on September 19, 2012, 04:19:33 PM
Are you in need of representation, Marty? Is that why you're asking?  :P