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Title: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:25:03 AM
I found a website that seems to cater this niche demographic.

Salaries run from $4-6,000 a month.

What are Languish's thoughts on this matter?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 06:25:49 AM
Seems like good compensation, and there will probably be bonuses and other benefits. Do it.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Zanza on September 16, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
Moscow is very expensive to live in. You should inform yourself about cost of living before considering this.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

The next highest salary I've seen for Russia is $2,000 a month and that's for HMBOB's company. These seem to be teaching/tutoring jobs provided and paid for by individual families. People who can blow that kind of money on a private tutor for their kid must be high rollers.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Josquius on September 16, 2012, 06:59:59 AM
Yeah、 Moscow is (or was a year or two ago) the most expensive city in to live in the world I heard.
I don't think GDP per capita is too good an indicator of how things are for such an unequal country like Russia. Many cities seem pretty western standard whilst out in the boonies you have people living in third world conditions.

But still, that pay does sound great and teaching is what you want to do. Worth applying anyway to see if you get anywhere.
Strange that company would pay so much....
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Razgovory on September 16, 2012, 07:01:14 AM
Except it's full of Russians.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 16, 2012, 07:02:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
People who can blow that kind of money on a private tutor for their kid must be high rollers.

Be careful about not pissing them off; in Russia those guys are likely to feel they can get away with murder, no problem.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:04:07 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 16, 2012, 06:59:59 AM

But still, that pay does sound great and teaching is what you want to do. Worth applying anyway to see if you get anywhere.
Strange that company would pay so much....
Like I said, it seems it's a recruiting company for rich families, and my concerns go more towards Wigin's than Zanza's.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Monoriu on September 16, 2012, 07:07:38 AM
You probably need to know Russian to qualify for this job.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 07:21:35 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 16, 2012, 07:07:38 AM
You probably need to know Russian to qualify for this job.

Why?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 16, 2012, 07:23:21 AM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 07:21:35 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 16, 2012, 07:07:38 AM
You probably need to know Russian to qualify for this job.

Why?

Because the Russian needs his kickbacks or he'll find someone else.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 07:32:05 AM
Start up a side business where young Russian women audition for modeling opportunities.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Solmyr on September 16, 2012, 07:36:15 AM
Remember that you cannot fail them unless you want to end up dead.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 08:03:55 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on September 16, 2012, 07:36:15 AM
Remember that you cannot fail them unless you want to end up dead.
My kids won a gold, silver and three bronzes at the Chungnam (province level) English contest recently.  :showoff:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Solmyr on September 16, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
We are talking about kids of Russian oligarchs, here. They probably won't even bother listening to you.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2012, 08:40:57 AM
Have fun getting murdered.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Syt on September 16, 2012, 09:07:11 AM
It sounds great until you realize that Russia has one of the highest drug addict and HIV rates in Europe, so be careful what you buy with that cash.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
What city, Timmy?  If you make that much money in Omsk, there's just not going to be anything to spend it on.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Viking on September 16, 2012, 09:16:24 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 16, 2012, 09:07:11 AM
It sounds great until you realize that Russia has one of the highest drug addict and HIV rates in Europe, so be careful what you buy with that cash.

When I go to arab world I bring my own bacon.

If I ever go to russia I will bring my own condoms.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
What city, Timmy?  If you make that much money in Omsk, there's just not going to be anything to spend it on.
Current ad

QuoteA prominent family in Novosibirsk is seeking an experienced male teacher for their 12 & 15 year-old daughters.
Job Details

Both daughters attend an international school and require special help with their homework. They also require additional ESL lessons through explicit instruction and activities. Approximately 6 hours per/day, Monday-Friday.
Package

-Compensation $6000USD/Monthly
-The teacher will be provided with a private apartment nearby
-Meals provided
-Visa and flight provided
-Saturdays/Sundays off
Teacher Must

-possess a B.Ed/MEd primary + a recognized TESOL/CELTA certificate
-minimum 3 years teaching experience
-be sporty and hygienic
-be well mannered with good organisational skills

Not very sporty  :hmm:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 09:20:13 AM
Novosibirsk is the third largest city in Russia, but that doesn't really mean a whole lot-if you aren't in Petersburg or Moscow you might as well be in Rostov-on-Don.  With that in mind, you could likely afford flying in to Moscow, Beijing or somewhere else interesting on a pretty frequent basis with that kind of cash.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
What city, Timmy?  If you make that much money in Omsk, there's just not going to be anything to spend it on.
Current ad

QuoteA prominent family in Novosibirsk is seeking an experienced male teacher for their 12 & 15 year-old daughters.
Job Details

Both daughters attend an international school and require special help with their homework. They also require additional ESL lessons through explicit instruction and activities. Approximately 6 hours per/day, Monday-Friday.
Package

-Compensation $6000USD/Monthly
-The teacher will be provided with a private apartment nearby
-Meals provided
-Visa and flight provided
-Saturdays/Sundays off
Teacher Must

-possess a B.Ed/MEd primary + a recognized TESOL/CELTA certificate
-minimum 3 years teaching experience
-be sporty and hygienic
-be well mannered with good organisational skills

Not very sporty  :hmm:
Why do the daughters need a male teacher?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Viking on September 16, 2012, 09:38:04 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Why do the daughters need a male teacher?

porn?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: FunkMonk on September 16, 2012, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 09:31:10 AM

Why do the daughters need a male teacher?

Sounds like these Russians need a patsy imo.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
Timmy, I'd read "Snowdrops" before I went over, just to get some kind of a taste for what you're in for.   :lol:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 09:48:35 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
What city, Timmy?  If you make that much money in Omsk, there's just not going to be anything to spend it on.
Current ad

QuoteA prominent family in Novosibirsk is seeking an experienced male teacher for their 12 & 15 year-old daughters.
Job Details

Both daughters attend an international school and require special help with their homework. They also require additional ESL lessons through explicit instruction and activities. Approximately 6 hours per/day, Monday-Friday.
Package

-Compensation $6000USD/Monthly
-The teacher will be provided with a private apartment nearby
-Meals provided
-Visa and flight provided
-Saturdays/Sundays off
Teacher Must

-possess a B.Ed/MEd primary + a recognized TESOL/CELTA certificate
-minimum 3 years teaching experience
-be sporty and hygienic
-be well mannered with good organisational skills

Not very sporty  :hmm:
Why do the daughters need a male teacher?
I also thought that was suspicious.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Tonitrus on September 16, 2012, 09:53:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FiCQtAGWRg
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
Could be either parent who wants the sporty male teacher.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
I predict they would not hire you because of your Rican heritage.  Russians are wacky that way. -_-
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: mongers on September 16, 2012, 10:35:08 AM
It reads like a scam email.

I think someone that well off, would have enough contacts in Russia and the wider world to informally find a suitable person without the need to advertise. 
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 10:59:02 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
A prominent family in Novosibirsk is seeking an experienced male teacher for their 12 & 15 year-old daughters.

:lol:  DANGER WILL ROBINSONSKI DANGER

The first time you give them shit about not studying, you suddenly find out that you've "sexually assaulted" them. 

Don't worry about your fingerprints or dental records, they won't be necessary.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: mongers on September 16, 2012, 10:35:08 AM
It reads like a scam email.

I think someone that well off, would have enough contacts in Russia and the wider world to informally find a suitable person without the need to advertise.
The website that was posted at was linked on a reputable job site that I've used to get all my overseas job, but it definitely seems super sketchy.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jacob on September 16, 2012, 11:14:43 AM
Yeah that does sound a little fishy...

Best case scenario: mom wants some instruction too.

Worst case scenario: :ph34r:

Too bad GaijindM isn't around, maybe he could provide some more insight.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 16, 2012, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
I predict they would not hire you because of your Rican heritage.  Russians are wacky that way. -_-
:yes:  I was going to say that being a non-Scandinavian-white American in many parts of Russia would open you up to a lot of abuse.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 16, 2012, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
I predict they would not hire you because of your Rican heritage.  Russians are wacky that way. -_-
:yes:  I was going to say that being a non-Scandinavian-white American in many parts of Russia would open you up to a lot of abuse.
Well if they limit it to Scandinavian Americans they're not gonna find my qualified applicants.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 16, 2012, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 16, 2012, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
I predict they would not hire you because of your Rican heritage.  Russians are wacky that way. -_-
:yes:  I was going to say that being a non-Scandinavian-white American in many parts of Russia would open you up to a lot of abuse.
Well if they limit it to Scandinavian Americans they're not gonna find my qualified applicants.
:hmm:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:59:23 AM
many
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
OK, Collector.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
Tim,

Please do not do this. Your life would be in great danger.

Remember: No one goes into teaching to make money. You will always either be poor, or at least moderately comfortable. You will never have nice things as a teacher. Your reward is not meant to be material, but spiritual. If the carrot being dangled in front of you appears too sweet, it probably is.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Queequeg on September 16, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
IDK what median income is in Novosibirsk, or how easy it is to gain access to luxury goods associated with the European-American Middle Class.  This seems like a fair point, but I think it's pretty likely that cost of living is way lower in Sibirsk than Moscow.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
Tim,

Please do not do this. Your life would be in great danger.

Remember: No one goes into teaching to make money. You will always either be poor, or at least moderately comfortable. You will never have nice things as a teacher. Your reward is not meant to be material, but spiritual. If the carrot being dangled in front of you appears too sweet, it probably is.
Barack Obama was a teacher and is now quite wealthy and powerful.(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.backupot.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fhitler.gif&hash=da70bf1b11b72337091def9a2f36deaad598254f)
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
But not as a teacher. :P
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
But not as a teacher. :P
Precisely. It was a stepping stone, just like Tim's entry into the Russian oligarchy is a stepping stone to wealth and power.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: mongers on September 16, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
Tim,

Please do not do this. Your life would be in great danger.

Remember: No one goes into teaching to make money. You will always either be poor, or at least moderately comfortable. You will never have nice things as a teacher. Your reward is not meant to be material, but spiritual. If the carrot being dangled in front of you appears too sweet, it probably is.
Barack Obama was a teacher and is now quite wealthy and powerful.(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.backupot.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fhitler.gif&hash=da70bf1b11b72337091def9a2f36deaad598254f)

Tim should write a best selling book detailing his troubles with other posters and another tome about his alt-hist vision for the future.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: katmai on September 16, 2012, 02:36:14 PM
Tim, take the job, oh and take mongers with you.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 16, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
Tim,

Please do not do this. Your life would be in great danger.

Remember: No one goes into teaching to make money. You will always either be poor, or at least moderately comfortable. You will never have nice things as a teacher. Your reward is not meant to be material, but spiritual. If the carrot being dangled in front of you appears too sweet, it probably is.
Barack Obama was a teacher and is now quite wealthy and powerful.(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.backupot.com%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fhitler.gif&hash=da70bf1b11b72337091def9a2f36deaad598254f)

Tim should write a best selling book detailing his troubles with other posters and another tome about his alt-hist vision for the future.
Precisely. Romney's lack of similar books is why he is trailing.

We need: "The Audacity of Joseph Smith" and "Dreams from George Romney"
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Camerus on September 16, 2012, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.

:lol:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:29:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.
They were brand new!  :mad:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:29:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.
They were brand new!  :mad:

And they were beautiful.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 06:34:35 PM
Would you want to live in Russia (outside of Moscow and Saint Petersburg)? There aren't going to be many english speakers around and it isn't a first world country. It may not be safe. You aren't going to be in a school with coworkers you can connect with.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
I wonder how Timmay's family would pay for the ransom after he's snatched.  In nickels? Scratch offs?  Arby's double coupons?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Tonitrus on September 16, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
If I got out of the military, I'd consider something like this...and I could likely get by on the street, language-wise.

But I'd still choose Japan all day long.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 06:50:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
I wonder how Timmay's family would pay for the ransom after he's snatched.  In nickels? Scratch offs?  Arby's double coupons?

2009 Entertainment book with half the fast food coupons used.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2012, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:29:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.
They were brand new!  :mad:
Either way, you were lucky to escape with your life.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 16, 2012, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:29:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.
They were brand new!  :mad:
Either way, you were lucky to escape with your life.
A crazy vietnam vet did hold me at knife point once.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Google image search of "russian tutor":

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flanguagelessonsvancouver.ca%2Fwp-content%2Fthemes%2Fthesis_18%2Fcustom%2Frotator%2Frussian-tutor.jpg&hash=dd1c6f18b225fde4704f035c52a5a79caa0a0cba)
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Josquius on September 16, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 09:31:10 AM

Why do the daughters need a male teacher?
mommy doesnt trust daddy after the last one?


But yes, certainly seems suspect. Anything involving Russians is suspect as is anything offering way over market level wages.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
What's he doing now in S. Korea?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
What do you think I'm doing? :unsure:

I already have a Masters in Education, TEFL certificate and three years experience. The only thing I could do to enhance my resume is get a CELTA certificate or a PHD.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
What do you think I'm doing? :unsure:

I already have a Masters in Education, TEFL certificate and three years experience. The only thing I could do to enhance my resume is get a CELTA certificate or a PHD.

Or become more sporty.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 16, 2012, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 16, 2012, 02:40:38 PM
Tim used to be a used encyclopedia salesman in the Deep South. I think he can take care of himself.
:XD:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 16, 2012, 09:54:18 PM
I don't know if you're seriously considering this, but if you are, how are you planning to get around the language barrier?  Russians are highly predatory people, especially the cops, so being in the less-developed part of the country without reliable means of communicating with other people is asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Josquius on September 16, 2012, 09:59:55 PM
Yeah....I'd guess Russian language skills would be needed anyway for such a high paying job.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
What do you think I'm doing? :unsure:

I already have a Masters in Education, TEFL certificate and three years experience. The only thing I could do to enhance my resume is get a CELTA certificate or a PHD.

Tim, I'm sure you realize that at this point a lack of formal qualifications is not what is holding you back.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
PhD in Education = Worthless.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Habbaku on September 16, 2012, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
PhD in Education = Worthless.

How's that PhD in Beef-Patty Flippology going?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: katmai on September 16, 2012, 11:10:40 PM
Now now Habbu he speaks from experience with his Masters in ED. :lol:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 16, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Tim, I'm sure you realize that at this point a lack of formal qualifications is not what is holding you back.
I read his statement wrong and misunderstood his point.

I love teaching English and have no plans to stop anytime soon. 
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:24:13 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 16, 2012, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
PhD in Education = Worthless.

How's that PhD in Beef-Patty Flippology going?

Great joke, considering I haven't done that job for 7 years now. :P
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Habbaku on September 16, 2012, 11:31:43 PM
And look how far you've come!
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
Yep. Doing pretty well for myself.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: katmai on September 16, 2012, 11:42:35 PM
All he had to do was sell his soul to the Mormons.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:45:55 PM
Say what you want about Mormons spiritually, but in every other aspect of their lives they know how to get shit done, especially in their business dealings*

Mitt excepted. A company made up of Mormons is a machine to behold.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 17, 2012, 12:16:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
I read his statement wrong and misunderstood his point.

I love teaching English and have no plans to stop anytime soon.

I thought your goal was to teach (alt) history?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Razgovory on September 17, 2012, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 17, 2012, 12:16:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
I read his statement wrong and misunderstood his point.

I love teaching English and have no plans to stop anytime soon.

I thought your goal was to teach (alt) history?

They teach that in Russia as well.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 17, 2012, 12:33:08 AM
 :lmfao:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: alfred russel on September 17, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
What's he doing now in S. Korea?

Teaching english at a standard of living he would consider moving to remote regions of russia to improve?

DGuller, do you speak russian?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Camerus on September 17, 2012, 12:48:54 AM
Why isn't Tim teaching in the USA?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 17, 2012, 12:50:12 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 17, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
DGuller, do you speak russian?
Da. :unsure:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 17, 2012, 12:50:27 AM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on September 17, 2012, 12:48:54 AM
Why isn't Tim teaching in the USA?
Language barrier.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: katmai on September 17, 2012, 12:52:33 AM
Dguller is American in name only.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 17, 2012, 01:02:26 AM
Quote from: katmai on September 17, 2012, 12:52:33 AM
Dguller is American in name only.

Doesn't sound like a particularly American name.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 17, 2012, 01:31:18 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 17, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 16, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
It's not confined to Moscow, and even if it was isn't Russian GDP per capita is like $13k. I'd be rolling in money.

No you won't. It's not a median. The standard of living is significantly below what you would be used to in rural America. In order to get the standard of living comparable to a middle class person in a Western city, you would be paying through your nose.
If was pulling in $48-72k in Russia I would certainly have a higher standard of living then I do now in S. Korea.

Tim, rather than move to remote regions of russia to raise your standard of living, why not reconsider a career teaching english? There are undergrad careers that pay in that range right out of school, and some have pathways to lots of international travel if that is what you are after.
What's he doing now in S. Korea?

Teaching english at a standard of living he would consider moving to remote regions of russia to improve?

I'm quite happy with my standard of living. That doesn't mean it can't get better.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2012, 05:30:11 AM
Quote from: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
Yep. Doing pretty well for myself.

You had nowhere to go but up, so you've got that going for you. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: garbon on September 17, 2012, 07:10:34 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 17, 2012, 01:31:18 AM
I'm quite happy with my standard of living. That doesn't mean it can't get better.

Has anyone ever said that with regards to moving to Russia?
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 17, 2012, 07:16:19 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 17, 2012, 07:10:34 AM
Has anyone ever said that with regards to moving to Russia?

Joseph Stalin.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Josquius on September 17, 2012, 07:46:39 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 17, 2012, 07:16:19 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 17, 2012, 07:10:34 AM
Has anyone ever said that with regards to moving to Russia?

Joseph Stalin.
Brings this to mind. Something for Tim to look into if he feels like a spot of adventure.

http://www.tlg.gov.ge/
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: DGuller on September 17, 2012, 08:05:28 AM
How is that an improvement?  If he stays there for a couple of years, he'll just wind up living in Russia anyway.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: Josquius on September 17, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
Its not. It sounds rather terrible IMO. Really not the job for someone in it for the money.
Title: Re: Teaching English to the children of Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters
Post by: katmai on September 17, 2012, 08:10:36 AM
Dguller is selling me on this, go for it Timmay.