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Title: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 12, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
It started on Monday. The updater just hung there at 0%, over an hour. I cancelled and restarted. It got to 28%, then gave me a file error ("Steam.exe has been deleted but it's still there" - wtf?). I tried running the SteamNew.exe, but it gave me "Service Currently Unavailable".

I poked around for solutions on the interwebs, and I tried them all. Deleting the *.blob files, booting in safe mode, reducing the security levels on my account within Win7, clean re-install . . . no change. A variety of file errors or being unable to connect.

What *did* work in the end was:
- clean re-install
- kill process from task manager before update starts
- boot up in safe mode with network
- update runs

However, next day it was back to square one - update not working, file errors, etc.

I'm NOT going to boot my system in Safe Mode (and possibly do a fresh install) every time I want to access Steam.

I was a big fan of Steam, but now I'm about to give up. I have no idea what might cause this - I made no new install/changes to my system between, say, Sunday and Monday when the errors started, so I'm rather befuddled.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Grey Fox on September 13, 2012, 06:59:49 AM
Have you tried contacting Valve Support?
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: DGuller on September 13, 2012, 07:42:23 AM
WAD.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Josephus on September 14, 2012, 12:08:43 PM
steam's a pain in the arse. I haven't had an issue that bad; but I frequently get a "You are already running Steam" message when I go to play a game, yet can't access it. So I have to do a reboot.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: sbr on September 14, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 14, 2012, 12:08:43 PM
steam's a pain in the arse. I haven't had an issue that bad; but I frequently get a "You are already running Steam" message when I go to play a game, yet can't access it. So I have to do a reboot.

I get that occasionally but I just shut down the process instead of rebooting.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: viper37 on September 14, 2012, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 12, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
It started on Monday. The updater just hung there at 0%, over an hour. I cancelled and restarted. It got to 28%, then gave me a file error ("Steam.exe has been deleted but it's still there" - wtf?). I tried running the SteamNew.exe, but it gave me "Service Currently Unavailable".

I poked around for solutions on the interwebs, and I tried them all. Deleting the *.blob files, booting in safe mode, reducing the security levels on my account within Win7, clean re-install . . . no change. A variety of file errors or being unable to connect.

What *did* work in the end was:
- clean re-install
- kill process from task manager before update starts
- boot up in safe mode with network
- update runs

However, next day it was back to square one - update not working, file errors, etc.

I'm NOT going to boot my system in Safe Mode (and possibly do a fresh install) every time I want to access Steam.

I was a big fan of Steam, but now I'm about to give up. I have no idea what might cause this - I made no new install/changes to my system between, say, Sunday and Monday when the errors started, so I'm rather befuddled.
if you have an anti-virus&firewall other than Windows, try uninstalling these + Steam. Reboot.  Reinstall Steam.  See if it works.

Alternatively, you might want to check for virus/spywares first with a clean USB stick

I never hard any problems with Steam.  Imho, it's the best gaming platform out there.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Razgovory on September 14, 2012, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 14, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 14, 2012, 12:08:43 PM
steam's a pain in the arse. I haven't had an issue that bad; but I frequently get a "You are already running Steam" message when I go to play a game, yet can't access it. So I have to do a reboot.

I get that occasionally but I just shut down the process instead of rebooting.

Yeah, that's what I do.  I rarely have problems with Steam, and usually their forums are fairly helpful.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 15, 2012, 07:49:08 AM
Yeah, I've run all kinds of virus/malware checks, but they've come up empty.

Guess I'll have to try my luck with their support.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 21, 2012, 12:44:50 PM
And six days later I get a response. I should try deactivate all non-MS services on startup (except Steam Client) and see what happens.

Nothing changed (which I also reported to them just now).

The error messages I get, though, seem to point at the files getting "locked":
- "Deleted Steam.exe but the file is still there."
- "Can't open SteamNew.exe [or SteamTmp.exe] for writing."
- "Can't copy Steam.exe because the file is in use by an application."

I get similar messages sometimes when a Paradox game updates ("You need admin rights to delete this file.") - usually after a few minutes the file becomes "unlocked", though, and I can continue the update.

It seems *.exe files get locked for awhile (5-10 minutes?) after they were created or used (which, I would think, is a security measure), and Steam gets tripped up by it. Though I still can't fathom why it used to work fine a short while ago.

I've tried lowering and disabling user account security stuff, given myself full admin powers, disabled my antivirus, but nothing seems to solve this.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: viper37 on September 21, 2012, 02:19:19 PM
Do you have a firewall other than windows?  What happens if you disable everything?
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 21, 2012, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 21, 2012, 02:19:19 PM
Do you have a firewall other than windows?

No, and I've set appropriate privileges for Steam.

QuoteWhat happens if you disable everything?

In the msconfig? Nothing, really, except some stuff stops working without the MS services.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: viper37 on September 21, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
Did you turn off Windows firewall entirely?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Turn-Windows-Firewall-on-or-off
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Caliga on September 21, 2012, 07:22:07 PM
reformat your hard drive.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 22, 2012, 04:10:50 AM
Well, it seems to be running again, for now.

What fixed it? Downloading a mid-August release of Steam that was linked on the Steam Support forums by some guy.

No idea what it fixed, or what was broken, but at least I can access my games (for the moment).
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 22, 2012, 06:15:30 AM
Restarted computer, tried to start Steam - tries to update, error messages ensue. Yay.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Syt on September 22, 2012, 11:51:08 AM
And after a few more tweaks it seems to work again. I'll wait till Monday or Tuesday to see if it keeps running.
Title: Re: My Steam is messed up
Post by: Josephus on September 22, 2012, 02:20:14 PM
Can you leave steam running all the time?