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Title: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
http://www.international.gc.ca/media/aff/news-communiques/2012/09/07a.aspx?lang=eng&view=d

""Canada has closed its embassy in Iran, effective immediately, and declared personae non gratae all remaining Iranian diplomats in Canada."

Prelude to war?  Should we expect a US-Canada attack on Iran by February 2013?
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Malthus on September 07, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
Interesting. Any specific event that triggered this?
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Barrister on September 07, 2012, 09:23:02 AM
Meh - I was reading the other day that we haven't allowed an ambassador from Iran since that Iranian-Canadian journalist was killed several years ago.  Just a final step long in coming.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:38:17 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/09/07/pol-baird-canada-iran-embassy.html
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Grey Fox on September 07, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
Damn it, Agreeing with the Cons sucks.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: derspiess on September 07, 2012, 09:40:53 AM
What's the deal with Iranians and embassies?  They just don't seem to mix very well together.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Gups on September 07, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
Good, nice one Harper
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Prelude to war?  Should we expect a US-Canada attack on Iran by February 2013?

What do we have to do with this? :huh:
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Prelude to war?  Should we expect a US-Canada attack on Iran by February 2013?

What do we have to do with this? :huh:

Yeah, no shit, man.  Don't be dragging us into your Canuckistani foreign intrigues and excursions.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Barrister on September 07, 2012, 11:09:23 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Prelude to war?  Should we expect a US-Canada attack on Iran by February 2013?

What do we have to do with this? :huh:

Yeah, no shit, man.  Don't be dragging us into your Canuckistani foreign intrigues and excursions.

You're either with us, or against us, when it comes to Iran and Denmark.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: garbon on September 07, 2012, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Prelude to war?  Should we expect a US-Canada attack on Iran by February 2013?

What do we have to do with this? :huh:

Yeah, no shit, man.  Don't be dragging us into your Canuckistani foreign intrigues and excursions.

Because Canada just marches to our orders. :goodboy:
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: crazy canuck on September 07, 2012, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 07, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
Interesting. Any specific event that triggered this?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.  My guess is some kind of back channels discussion collapsed horribly.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Maximus on September 07, 2012, 11:47:01 AM
The article mentioned support for Assad. As that's a current event it could be the trigger.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Legbiter on September 07, 2012, 12:02:05 PM
Iran stole Canada's strategic maple syrup reserve? :hmm:

Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: crazy canuck on September 07, 2012, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: Maximus on September 07, 2012, 11:47:01 AM
The article mentioned support for Assad. As that's a current event it could be the trigger.


Been going on for a long time though and there have been other events in that crisis more serious then what has occured over the last couple of days.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Malthus on September 07, 2012, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2012, 12:02:05 PM
Iran stole Canada's strategic maple syrup reserve? :hmm:

I guess they found a use for those giant trained ants mentioned by Herodotus.  :D
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: HVC on September 07, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 07, 2012, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2012, 12:02:05 PM
Iran stole Canada's strategic maple syrup reserve? :hmm:

I guess they found a use for those giant trained ants mentioned by Herodotus.  :D
you misclassify one mole and you become a running joke for millennia!
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Prelude to war?  Should we expect a US-Canada attack on Iran by February 2013?

What do we have to do with this? :huh:
it's not like Canada has a foreign policy of its own.  While maintaining the appearance of a British colony ( :yuck: ), we're still closely aligned on US policy.  If there's a US attack on Iran coming, Canadians in their ambassy or anywhere in the country won't be safe.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Jacob on September 07, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
If the US decided to get more muscular with Iran, I expect that Canada - especially with Harper at the helm - would support them.

But I would not expect the US to give Canada advance notice to the point that we'd get lead time to pull out embassy staff before any of the other indicators - like say increased American rhetoric aimed at Iran trying to make the case to the American public.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: crazy canuck on September 07, 2012, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 07, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
But I would not expect the US to give Canada advance notice to the point that we'd get lead time to pull out embassy staff before any of the other indicators - like say increased American rhetoric aimed at Iran trying to make the case to the American public.

Especially now during an election year.  I would assume that Clinton/Obama would want to be out front on that issue.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Ed Anger on September 07, 2012, 02:26:30 PM
The ever unreliable Debka file site thinks a move against Syria in imminent and Iran will join with Assad.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Razgovory on September 07, 2012, 03:52:29 PM
Join with him like in a sexual way?
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: The Brain on September 07, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
Yeah, like IKK "being with" Superman?
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 07, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
But I would not expect the US to give Canada advance notice to the point that we'd get lead time to pull out embassy staff before any of the other indicators - like say increased American rhetoric aimed at Iran trying to make the case to the American public.
oh no, I don't think they got advance notice.  But over the course of regular discussions, maybe they got a few pointers to the effect that something was coming, and it was coming sooner than later.  Lots of small stuff goes on beyond the scene.  Maybe it ain't war, maybe it's just normal procedure.  We'll know when it happens, I guess.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: grumbler on September 08, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 07, 2012, 02:26:30 PM
The ever unreliable Debka file site thinks a move against Syria in imminent and Iran will join with Assad.

A little wag the dog?  The timing is certainly right.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 08, 2012, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 07, 2012, 03:52:29 PM
Join with him like in a sexual way?

Or perhaps they'll fuck him instead.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Razgovory on September 08, 2012, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 08, 2012, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 07, 2012, 03:52:29 PM
Join with him like in a sexual way?

Or perhaps they'll fuck him instead.

:lol:
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 09, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
Did Harper kick the Iranian ambassador into a giant pit?
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 09, 2012, 06:29:38 PM
I think I know what you were trying to say. :hmm:
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 09, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 09, 2012, 06:29:38 PM
I think I know what you were trying to say. :hmm:
Whoops!  :lol:

Mean Iranian ambassador, obviously.
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 09, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Did you put Persian first?
Title: Re: Canada closes ambassy in Iran, expels all iranian diplomats
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 09, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 09, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Did you put Persian first?
Canadian.  :blush: