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Title: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 06, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
I'd like a thread solely for tv shows.  Keep the movies in another.
Discuss current and upcoming tv shows for this season


So, anyway.  I saw the first episode of World Without End, sequel to Pillars of the Earth.

I'd say my feelings are mixed.  There are interesting story lines, maybe... but where will it go from there?  So far, it seems to focus on the tragic destiny of the Queen and the tragic destiny of a young peasant girl forced to marry an older man.  Can't say I'm super excited about that.
Never saw the first book adaptation, nor did I read any of this.

I'll give it one more week before I cancel this.


Copper
Now, this, I kinda like.  Police investigation shortly after the events of Gangs of New York.  It's THE show for CdM.  Police attack criminals to steal the money they just stole from a bank, police mistreat suspects, police plot and kill bad guys caught in the act.  All it's missing is some asian bondage :P
Now, seriously, I can't exactly see where it's going for now. Some plot looms ahead, but aside day to day business in Five Points 1864, I can't say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_%28TV_series%29


Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on September 07, 2012, 02:20:11 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:

Now Google knows you're going to watch it.  What were you thinking?!?


:P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 07, 2012, 02:37:48 PM
@meri they have the first episode free on web or on demand if cable company supports that.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 07, 2012, 02:55:55 PM
Revolution-the Kings of the fall '12 season.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 07, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Wasn't there already a tv show out a year or so ago around the same theme?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
If they did, I didn't hear of it.

@ Katmai - I want to watch the premier on "Opening Night". I'm weird that way.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 07, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 07, 2012, 02:55:55 PM
Revolution-the Kings of the fall '12 season.
:weep:  That's one of the reasons I'm afraid to watch.  That Copper show sounds awesome.  I hadn't heard of it before.  I'll be tuning into my carry overs like Grimm, Once Upon a Time, Castle, and The Mentalist.  I'll probably end up buckling and watching Revolution till it gets killed off.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 07, 2012, 04:11:47 PM
Viper--what channel is showing WWE? TMN ran POtE but I dont think theyre showing this. Mind you I didnt enjoy the book as much as Pillars...too much of the same thing.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 07, 2012, 07:09:28 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
If they did, I didn't hear of it.

@ Katmai - I want to watch the premier on "Opening Night". I'm weird that way.
Wasn't sure if your busy schedule would allow that.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 07:55:47 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 07, 2012, 07:09:28 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
If they did, I didn't hear of it.

@ Katmai - I want to watch the premier on "Opening Night". I'm weird that way.
Wasn't sure if your busy schedule would allow that.

I've scheduled around it.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 07, 2012, 08:39:42 PM
I watched it.  Looks like it is shaping up to be a reboot of "The Postman"...with less USPS.

I give it 4 Holnists out of 10.  But will follow it for a bit more.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 08:42:29 PM
I've been going old school, and started watching The Mary Tyler Moore Show.  Fuck, was that shit funny.  Ted Knight.  Nuff said.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: 11B4V on September 07, 2012, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 06, 2012, 10:53:53 PM


Copper
Now, this, I kinda like.  Police investigation shortly after the events of Gangs of New York.  It's THE show for CdM.  Police attack criminals to steal the money they just stole from a bank, police mistreat suspects, police plot and kill bad guys caught in the act.  All it's missing is some asian bondage :P
Now, seriously, I can't exactly see where it's going for now. Some plot looms ahead, but aside day to day business in Five Points 1864, I can't say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_%28TV_series%29

I like this show. Dont worry the chinks will show up.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 07, 2012, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 07, 2012, 04:11:47 PM
Viper--what channel is showing WWE? TMN ran POtE but I dont think theyre showing this. Mind you I didnt enjoy the book as much as Pillars...too much of the same thing.
Showcase (http://www.showcase.ca/ontv/titledetails.aspx?Root_Title_Id=269651).
That network seems to have a few good shows, not only reruns of other network's shows.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: 11B4V on September 07, 2012, 09:41:16 PM
Shows I'm watching regularly:

Copper
Suits
White Collar
Grimm
Falling Skies


Looking forward to:
Revolution
Walking Dead
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 09:47:23 PM
Yeah, I have to catch up with Copper.  It sits in my TiVo.

Political Animals was cool for a limited series. Sigourney Weaver was excellent.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: 11B4V on September 07, 2012, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 09:47:23 PM
Yeah, I have to catch up with Copper.  It sits in my TiVo.

Political Animals was cool for a limited series. Sigourney Weaver was excellent.

She was , is, and will always be a hottie. I still remember the panty shot from Aliens. That looked like a nice box.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 08, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one too :)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: The Larch on September 08, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 08, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one too :)

Is that the one where the whole world turns stupid and forgets how to make anything work without electricity and go back to the middle ages?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on September 08, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: The Larch on September 08, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 08, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one too :)

Is that the one where the whole world turns stupid and forgets how to make anything work without electricity and go back to the middle ages?

Yep.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 08, 2012, 02:45:52 PM
Any dinosaurs in it?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on September 08, 2012, 03:16:06 PM
Sounds like the plot of a children's book I read many years ago. Kobberpesten.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 08, 2012, 05:06:50 PM
Watched the pilot for it last night. Meh.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 08, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 08, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: The Larch on September 08, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 08, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one too :)

Is that the one where the whole world turns stupid and forgets how to make anything work without electricity and go back to the middle ages?

Yep.

And that idea has way too many logical holes.  Too many principles of electricity should still work, even without microcircuitry or "electronics".  Does this mean static electricity no longer exists?  Lightning no longer strikes?

And not quite middle ages...the pilot had guys with some leftover modern firearms still working, and makeshift rifles of seemingly early American Civil War level of sophistication.  I am guessing they think fabricating modern ammunition would require advanced electronic machine tools.

And the general plot?  As I said already, it's a reboot of The Postman.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 08, 2012, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 08, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
And that idea has way too many logical holes.  Too many principles of electricity should still work, even without microcircuitry or "electronics".  Does this mean static electricity no longer exists?  Lightning no longer strikes?

And not quite middle ages...the pilot had guys with some leftover modern firearms still working, and makeshift rifles of seemingly early American Civil War level of sophistication.  I am guessing they think fabricating modern ammunition would require advanced electronic machine tools.

And the general plot?  As I said already, it's a reboot of The Postman.
I do not know if they have leftover modern firearms or if they can build new ones.  I'll wait 'til I see the show.
I do not know what causes the "no electricity", what's also affected.

Static and lighting electricity is one thing, but you need to harvest it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2012, 07:19:36 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 08, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 08, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: The Larch on September 08, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 08, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 07, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(TV_series))

Really looking forward to this one. I even put it on my Google Calendar so I wouldn't forget and miss it. :blush:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one too :)

Is that the one where the whole world turns stupid and forgets how to make anything work without electricity and go back to the middle ages?

Yep.

And that idea has way too many logical holes.  Too many principles of electricity should still work, even without microcircuitry or "electronics".  Does this mean static electricity no longer exists?  Lightning no longer strikes?

Did you go to lineman school?  Know the difference between a transmission line substation and a distribution line substation? Know what to do at the top of that bucket truck with the pole can?  Know what fluids to use to keep a 500kV transformer up?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 08, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
The commercials lead me to believe the show is about 'Feminist empowerment'. Or Meri's dream of cutting off men's penises.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2012, 07:32:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 08, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
The commercials lead me to believe the show is about 'Feminist empowerment'. Or Meri's dream of cutting off men's penises.

No, that's just you seeing things with a chick and a crossbow.  Don't know where you get that shit, other than you're Sandra Fluked the fuck out this week.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 08, 2012, 07:34:21 PM
No, I don't think I imagined that commercial. Then again, feminists have rubbed me the wrong way this year. Including your girl Whore pills.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 08, 2012, 07:36:04 PM
Then again, I'm high as a kite right now on painkillers.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 17, 2012, 10:40:50 AM
I really like Copper.  This is going in an interesting direction.  Can't wait to see the story unfold.

In other news, I believe Merithyn is about to receive an alert in her calendar :P
I'll let her do the honors and post a review of her own as soon as it airs :)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 17, 2012, 11:26:19 AM
New Normal - Okay I guess though seems largely to rely on stereotypes. Will see.

Go On - Dreadful. Well just so incredibly mediocre as if the first episode was created to draw viewers in - it doesn't speak well for the rest of the series.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 17, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
I tried Sinbad for about 10 episodes.  I just can't get into it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 17, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
I liked the first episode of Revolution. Has potential anyways. Just hoping they dont cancel it before it gets going. Young chick is hot.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
Ah, shit.  Forgot to TiVo that.  Damned Monday Night Football.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 17, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Homeland starts in a couple of weeks. :yeah:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2012, 10:23:40 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 17, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Homeland starts in a couple of weeks. :yeah:

I so waited to get into that show;  it's awesome.  SHES A FUCKING GOOF  :lol:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 17, 2012, 10:26:13 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 17, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
I liked the first episode of Revolution. Has potential anyways. Just hoping they dont cancel it before it gets going. Young chick is hot.
she's a Canuck.

And am I the only one annoyed by how they treat ballistics? A rifle hit throws you across a field and a crossbow bolt stops you in your tracks like you were hit with a baseball bat.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 17, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 17, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
I liked the first episode of Revolution. Has potential anyways. Just hoping they dont cancel it before it gets going. Young chick is hot.
Careful Josie, she is just 16.

Seedy. Do you have on demand, hulu or web access? Cause can find it there.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2012, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 17, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
Seedy. Do you have on demand, hulu or web access? Cause can find it there.

Yah, I'll catch it on teh Hulu.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 17, 2012, 10:32:05 PM
Where I watched it last week. :)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
Been too busy with Mary Tyler Moore episodes to notice it was up there.  :lol:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 18, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on September 17, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 17, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
I liked the first episode of Revolution. Has potential anyways. Just hoping they dont cancel it before it gets going. Young chick is hot.
Careful Josie, she is just 16.

In real life? REally? Wow....In that case, I didn't notice the scene early on where the camera shot right down her blouse. Didn't see that.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josquius on September 18, 2012, 09:08:54 AM
Any new things that aren't gonna be cancelled and are worth watching?

Quote from: Habbaku on September 17, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Homeland starts in a couple of weeks. :yeah:
Ah, that one too? Nifty. I was just waiting for Dexter.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 18, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2012, 09:08:54 AM
Any new things that aren't gonna be cancelled and are worth watching?

Are we capable of predicting the future? :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josquius on September 18, 2012, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 18, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2012, 09:08:54 AM
Any new things that aren't gonna be cancelled and are worth watching?

Are we capable of predicting the future? :P
Well, have been confirmed to be at least one series and seem to be popular and likely to continue then.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
Quote from: katmai on September 08, 2012, 05:06:50 PM
Watched the pilot for it last night. Meh.

Yeah, I felt the same. :(

I was hoping they'd get a bit more into daily life there, but the only thing that came up was the kid's asthma.  :glare:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 18, 2012, 09:53:06 AM
Quote from: HVC on September 17, 2012, 10:26:13 PM
And am I the only one annoyed by how they treat ballistics? A rifle hit throws you across a field and a crossbow bolt stops you in your tracks like you were hit with a baseball bat.
I was wondering what was in those rifle.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Vricklund on September 18, 2012, 10:01:07 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 06, 2012, 10:53:53 PMSo, anyway.  I saw the first episode of World Without End, sequel to Pillars of the Earth.

I'd say my feelings are mixed.  There are interesting story lines, maybe... but where will it go from there?  So far, it seems to focus on the tragic destiny of the Queen and the tragic destiny of a young peasant girl forced to marry an older man.  Can't say I'm super excited about that.
Never saw the first book adaptation, nor did I read any of this.
I've read both books. If you liked Pillar of the earth, chances are you'll like World without end too, it's basicly the same plot twists with the plague thrown in. :)

I'm looking forward to the new season of Downton abbey myself.  :bowler:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 18, 2012, 10:06:54 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2012, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 18, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2012, 09:08:54 AM
Any new things that aren't gonna be cancelled and are worth watching?

Are we capable of predicting the future? :P
Well, have been confirmed to be at least one series and seem to be popular and likely to continue then.

Oh, I thought you were asking about new Fall tv. :D
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: Vricklund on September 18, 2012, 10:01:07 AM
I'm looking forward to the new season of Downton abbey myself.  :bowler:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on September 18, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: Josephus on September 18, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on September 17, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 17, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
I liked the first episode of Revolution. Has potential anyways. Just hoping they dont cancel it before it gets going. Young chick is hot.
Careful Josie, she is just 16.

In real life? REally? Wow....In that case, I didn't notice the scene early on where the camera shot right down her blouse. Didn't see that.
She looks sort of like Heather Graham.

And I don't think a 16 year old would do this shot, even if Greek. Late twenty something is what she looks like.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gq.com%2Fimages%2Fwomen%2F2012%2F08%2Ftracy-spiridakos%2Ftracy-spirdakos-628.jpg&hash=123f42f98044ac0474cc448d9cd4a37356ecbf81)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 18, 2012, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: Liep on September 18, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
And I don't think a 16 year old would do this shot, even if Greek.

Oh, please.  Like Liebowitz has never taken sexy photos of Miley Cyrus when she was 15.  Wake the fuck up.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
Google fu says she's was born on May 17 1996, so, 16.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on September 18, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 18, 2012, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: Liep on September 18, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
And I don't think a 16 year old would do this shot, even if Greek.

Oh, please.  Like Liebowitz has never taken sexy photos of Miley Cyrus when she was 15.  Wake the fuck up.
That a crazed child star gets topless pictures taken of her doesn't mean I think any other 16 year old would do the same. Of course, I have no idea whether or not this girl has been a child star, or if that fucked her up.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on September 18, 2012, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
Google fu says she's was born on May 17 1996, so, 16.
So 15 during the filming. I'm terrible at judging ages.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2012, 11:03:59 AM
Big boobs for a 15/16 year old too.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on September 18, 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I am glad I saw this thread in time to see  Revolution.

I liked it, despite wondering why everyone in the US suddenly misplaced their guns while developing the technology necessary to manufacture high quality swords in just 15 years.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 18, 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I am glad I saw this thread in time to see  Revolution.

I liked it, despite wondering why everyone in the US suddenly misplaced their guns while developing the technology necessary to manufacture high quality swords in just 15 years.

The Big Bad Black Guy explained that. "You know that guns are illegal." :smarty:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 18, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 18, 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I am glad I saw this thread in time to see  Revolution.

I liked it, despite wondering why everyone in the US suddenly misplaced their guns while developing the technology necessary to manufacture high quality swords in just 15 years.
it's not hard to manufacture a sword for a limited number of militia men.  Presumably, they took existing swords (Monroe was a US Marine, and from the looks of it, it seems he took power from the US Marine Base he was stationned at) and simply changed the hilt to an american fist.

Not everyone as a sword, so it's not harder than during the middle ages where high quality swords could be produced for some nobles.  They have the knowledge, it isn't hard to reproduce some tools to recreate sword handles.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 18, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
it's not hard to manufacture a sword for a limited number of militia men.  Presumably, they took existing swords (Monroe was a US Marine, and from the looks of it, it seems he took power from the US Marine Base he was stationned at) and simply changed the hilt to an american fist.

Not everyone as a sword, so it's not harder than during the middle ages where high quality swords could be produced for some nobles.  They have the knowledge, it isn't hard to reproduce some tools to recreate sword handles.

Also, keep in mind that we have a very different understanding of how to use steel than they did in medieval times. It wouldn't be too difficult to make useable swords out of existing bits and pieces that are ground down to be sharp and to make a tang for a hilt. I was disappointed that the ones in the show all looked very medieval, because I would foresee very different blades if they became the necessary weapon of today's world.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: dps on September 18, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 18, 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I am glad I saw this thread in time to see  Revolution.

I liked it, despite wondering why everyone in the US suddenly misplaced their guns while developing the technology necessary to manufacture high quality swords in just 15 years.

The Big Bad Black Guy explained that. "You know that guns are illegal." :smarty:

Yeah, it's sort of like how in the real US, pot's illegal so nobody has any or knows how to grow it or anything.  Oh, wait.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Viking on September 18, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
Revolution is the new Falling Skies or Terra Nova. Sci-Fi premise, hott chick, decent action and sfx and family values.

I expect I will watch it but doing so is my version of the emo chick cutting herself. I suspected the premise would piss me off the most, but hey, it didn't. Spiderman was bitten by a radioactive spider, Superman is an alien from Crypton and somebody changed the laws of physics. I accepted the premise from flash forward, so I suppose this isn't too bad. It had a bit of a jericho vibe to it. But, the teens pissed me off. They pissed me off alot. Boy gets dad killed and girl gets uncle killed (until uncle proves to be more kick ass than chuck norris).

It just would take more than 15 years to degenerate to feudalism and kids raised in feudalism do not retain the moral compass of disney TV characters. 
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 18, 2012, 04:42:53 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 18, 2012, 01:48:23 PM
it's not hard to manufacture a sword for a limited number of militia men.  Presumably, they took existing swords (Monroe was a US Marine, and from the looks of it, it seems he took power from the US Marine Base he was stationned at) and simply changed the hilt to an american fist.

Not everyone as a sword, so it's not harder than during the middle ages where high quality swords could be produced for some nobles.  They have the knowledge, it isn't hard to reproduce some tools to recreate sword handles.

Also, keep in mind that we have a very different understanding of how to use steel than they did in medieval times. It wouldn't be too difficult to make useable swords out of existing bits and pieces that are ground down to be sharp and to make a tang for a hilt. I was disappointed that the ones in the show all looked very medieval, because I would foresee very different blades if they became the necessary weapon of today's world.

Agreed.  More likely, the common sword would be some kind of shaped sheet metal, and probably without a proper guard just some leather wrapped around the hilt.  Kinda like a glorified machete.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 18, 2012, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2012, 11:03:59 AM
Big boobs for a 15/16 year old too.

Most girls her age now get new boobs for their prom.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 18, 2012, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 18, 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I am glad I saw this thread in time to see  Revolution.

I liked it, despite wondering why everyone in the US suddenly misplaced their guns while developing the technology necessary to manufacture high quality swords in just 15 years.

I don't think they misplaced them so much. They are illegal. That was explicitly pointed out.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: merithyn on September 18, 2012, 01:58:13 PMI was disappointed that the ones in the show all looked very medieval, because I would foresee very different blades if they became the necessary weapon of today's world.
To me, they looked more like 19th century  cavalry saber with a different hilt.  Something you'd expect from a US Civil War era army officer maybe.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: dps on September 18, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, it's sort of like how in the real US, pot's illegal so nobody has any or knows how to grow it or anything.  Oh, wait.
if it was a hangable offense, without trial, to posses or use pot, less people would do it openly.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:48:11 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 18, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
It just would take more than 15 years to degenerate to feudalism and kids raised in feudalism do not retain the moral compass of disney TV characters. 
That, I think is very real.

No electricity, no techology, except for a few who seems to know how to get it back for a short while.  Let's exclude them for now.

So basically, what you have is a society where law enforcement officers can't properly coordinate their efforts, because they have no way to communicate with each other over long distances.  Same goes for the army, soldiers are camped in their barracks without orders.

There's no rich people, money is in the bank, on a computer wich doesn't work.  The central government is quite innefective at covering a large territory, as we have seen through medieval times.  Money has no real value, there's no supply chain for the goods, and having money for your crops or your protection doesn't mean much, so people go for the old trade in nature.

Many prisoners are most likely released or escape, jails rely on electric security system.  Hungry prisoners would riot and overpower their guardians.  Lots of dangerous people on the streets.

Add to that that every army in the world has its share of SiegeBreakers.  These people would likely attemp, even succeed in taking control of their local army/navy/air force base and institute their own little empire.  And there's no one to stop them until it's too late.  The President can't call in the army, because: a) he knows of the SiegeBreaker coup only weeks after it happenned in South Carolina and b) he can't quickly dispatch an army unit there, and even if he could reach them, there's no way to tell if they'll listen or if they'll riot on their own.

Besides, soldiers without pay tend to get angry.  No supply chain, remember?  No new food and drinks on base.  Soldiers ain't farmers.  An army marches on its stomach.  They'll eventually forage the land, and there's a lot less farms than there were in the 18th century, what with industrialization&mechanization of farms and all.  Without electricity, you can't keep the milk cold enough to preserve, so big farmers are screwed.  And there's not truck to take the milk to a factory.  And they can't distribute food to their animals anymore, generators won't work.  They can't harvest their huge fields without manpower, lots of it.  Crops perishes in the fields.

I think 15 years is generous.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: dps on September 18, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, it's sort of like how in the real US, pot's illegal so nobody has any or knows how to grow it or anything.  Oh, wait.
if it was a hangable offense, without trial, to posses or use pot, less people would do it openly.

In reality, wouldn't the people using guns be making the laws/hanging people?  :hmm:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 19, 2012, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: dps on September 18, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, it's sort of like how in the real US, pot's illegal so nobody has any or knows how to grow it or anything.  Oh, wait.
if it was a hangable offense, without trial, to posses or use pot, less people would do it openly.

In reality, wouldn't the people using guns be making the laws/hanging people?  :hmm:
militia has more guns :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 19, 2012, 12:12:58 PM
Without electricity or cars food couldn't be transported effectively, which means the larger towns and cities would face starvation on massive scales.  Civil breakdown wouldn't be far behind.

I watched a new show called Last Resort about a rogue Ohio class nukuler sub.  Some big conspiracy stuff.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
In reality, wouldn't the people using guns be making the laws/hanging people?  :hmm:
this is what seems to happen: General Monroe has established his own militia over a part of the US territory and made his own rule.  More likely, most people with guns joined his militia after a few of them were shot.  There's no internet anymore, so people are much less taller and much less braver :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 19, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: dps on September 18, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, it's sort of like how in the real US, pot's illegal so nobody has any or knows how to grow it or anything.  Oh, wait.
if it was a hangable offense, without trial, to posses or use pot, less people would do it openly.

In reality, wouldn't the people using guns be making the laws/hanging people?  :hmm:

Yes. Just like in the show.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 19, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
What really doesn't make sense is a claims adjuster becoming a bad ass. Can you see DGuller doing that? I rest my case :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 19, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 19, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: dps on September 18, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, it's sort of like how in the real US, pot's illegal so nobody has any or knows how to grow it or anything.  Oh, wait.
if it was a hangable offense, without trial, to posses or use pot, less people would do it openly.

In reality, wouldn't the people using guns be making the laws/hanging people?  :hmm:

Yes. Just like in the show.

So guns do exist in the show (which I have not seen), but they are just owned by the government.

The assumption here is that the government is powerful and centralized enough to enforce this measure, like Tokugawa Japan.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 18, 2012, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 18, 2012, 01:28:35 PM
I am glad I saw this thread in time to see  Revolution.

I liked it, despite wondering why everyone in the US suddenly misplaced their guns while developing the technology necessary to manufacture high quality swords in just 15 years.

I don't think they misplaced them so much. They are illegal. That was explicitly pointed out.

Yeah, they are illegal now - how is that working out.  Also that doesnt explain why the militias themselves arent packing -ie why are they bothering with cross bows, bows and swords?

Also to the people who dont see steel swords as being out of place in a world without any electrical power how are they making the steel?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 19, 2012, 12:38:33 PM
The land is broken into feudal states, so it shouldn't be too hard to enforce (comparatively ). plus the people do have hidden stashes, it seems. Besides, after 15 years how many easily accessible bullets are there?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 19, 2012, 12:38:33 PM
The land is broken into feudal states, so it shouldn't be too hard to enforce (comparatively ). plus the people do have hidden stashes, it seems. Besides, after 15 years how many easily accessible bullets are there?

Again, why are the people enforcing the rules not carrying real guns.

As for bullets - its just been 15 years.  How much of a stockpile did that base have?  Not to mention all the other weapons and ammo just the people on Languish have?

Viking had it right - thats a lot of change for just 15 years.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 19, 2012, 12:44:02 PM
When people over run MB and take his canned food and weapons those bullets will go throughout the mob. Less bullets per capita where everyone has to protect themselves. I can see bullets going fast.  Some of the other premises are stupid (magical pendant!), but I can see the gun thing happening.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on September 19, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
Again, why are the people enforcing the rules not carrying real guns.
In the scene with the general at the end all the militia guards had automatic rifles.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 19, 2012, 12:44:02 PM
When people over run MB and take his canned food and weapons those bullets will go throughout the mob. Less bullets per capita where everyone has to protect themselves. I can see bullets going fast.  Some of the other premises are stupid (magical pendant!), but I can see the gun thing happening.

I don't think you quite realize how much ammo people have stockpiled.  Not to mention what is in warehouses.  Add to that the relative ease of handloading ammo.  And I'd imagine the population would decrease rather sharply in that time, raising the bullet to person ratio.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: Liep on September 19, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
Again, why are the people enforcing the rules not carrying real guns.
In the scene with the general at the end all the militia guards had automatic rifles.

OK, then why not send people with real guns on a mission that was apparently important?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 19, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
What really doesn't make sense is a claims adjuster becoming a bad ass. Can you see DGuller doing that? I rest my case :P
remember a piece that said stock brokers and psychopath shared many character traits?  Everything is possible.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
Again, why are the people enforcing the rules not carrying real guns.
Because no one else is carrying guns anymore, so they save their ammo for really important stuff, like attacking or defending against another republic with guns.

Quote
As for bullets - its just been 15 years.  How much of a stockpile did that base have?  Not to mention all the other weapons and ammo just the people on Languish have?
Unless the ammo is properly stored, I believe it degrades over time.  It's conceivable the militia has ammo&guns stockpiles, but most civilians probably don't.
Also, guns need to be cleaned&oiled after eacher use.  After a while, you lose those tools.

And I don't think the government and the republics established themselves just like that.  I'm pretty sure there was some kind of a civil war.  That tends to deplete ammo fast.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
OK, then why not send people with real guns on a mission that was apparently important?
To avoid looking all that important.  A small group with guns could still be ambushed and have their guns stolen.  They would attract attention.  Otherwise, they look like ordinary militia.
And the officer did have a gun.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on September 19, 2012, 01:57:56 PM
Also, Terra Nova syndrome.*

*I haven't watched it yet.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 01:52:22 PM
Unless the ammo is properly stored, I believe it degrades over time.  It's conceivable the militia has ammo&guns stockpiles, but most civilians probably don't.

It does degrade somewhat, but the effect in 15 years is nil.  I still have ammo from the 1930s that shoots fine, and I doubt that was stored in optimal conditions 100% of the time.

QuoteAlso, guns need to be cleaned&oiled after eacher use.  After a while, you lose those tools.

Not entirely true.  As a best practice they *should* be cleaned/lubed after each use, but many modern firearms can operate well without that much maintenance.  AK-pattern rifles are famous for taking lots of abuse, and despite its reputation AR15-type rifles do not really need a whole lot of maintenance.  And anyway, firearms can be (and often are) cleaned using the crudest materials, solvents, lubricants, etc.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: daveracher on September 19, 2012, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 19, 2012, 01:57:56 PM
Also, Terra Nova syndrome.*

*I haven't watched it yet.

I have and I would have to agree. Gus needs to start slitting some throats or I'm gonna lose interest really quickly.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
It does degrade somewhat, but the effect in 15 years is nil.  I still have ammo from the 1930s that shoots fine, and I doubt that was stored in optimal conditions 100% of the time.
I was told my .22 ammo was no more good and I needed to buy new ones because it wasn't properly stored :confused:
Have I been lied to by 2 different hunters?

Quote
And anyway, firearms can be (and often are) cleaned using the crudest materials, solvents, lubricants, etc.
Yes, but stocks aren't limitless.  A huge stock of motor oil in Texas is not useful for someone in Washington.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 19, 2012, 01:57:56 PM
Also, Terra Nova syndrome.*

*I haven't watched it yet.
Yeah well, nobody pretends it's a great show based on one episode.  Let's say, we're far, far from the quality of BSG mini-series here.

If you haven't watched it yet, I'd suggest waiting after the season is over.  If it goes into S2, watch the entire season, otherwise, skip it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 19, 2012, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: daveracher on September 19, 2012, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 19, 2012, 01:57:56 PM
Also, Terra Nova syndrome.*

*I haven't watched it yet.

I have and I would have to agree. Gus needs to start slitting some throats or I'm gonna lose interest really quickly.

I cant wait to see him get his face blown up.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
I was told my .22 ammo was no more good and I needed to buy new ones because it wasn't properly stored :confused:
Have I been lied to by 2 different hunters?

Dunno.  I have .22 ammo from the 80s that still shoots fine.  How improperly stored was yours? 

I suppose .22LR could be a unique case as it is rimfire ammo and may not be as durable as centerfire cartridges. 

Quote
Quote
And anyway, firearms can be (and often are) cleaned using the crudest materials, solvents, lubricants, etc.
Yes, but stocks aren't limitless.  A huge stock of motor oil in Texas is not useful for someone in Washington.

It doesn't take much oil to lubricate a gun (my Glock does fine with 3 drops).  In the absence of proper gun oil, a whole range of oils, greases, etc. could be used as lubricant.  Some guns will run fine for a while without any lubrication whatsoever.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
I still have ammo from the 1930s that shoots fine, and I doubt that was stored in optimal conditions 100% of the time.

By all means, keep firing it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
I still have ammo from the 1930s that shoots fine, and I doubt that was stored in optimal conditions 100% of the time.

By all means, keep firing it.

:)

The German 1938 & 1939 stuff looks like it was made yesterday.  I'm down to my last few rounds unfortunately so I'll preserve them for my 'collection'.

I also have some Turkish 8mm Mauser ammo from the 1940s that I need to go through and inspect.  For any round that doesn't look sturdy I'll just pull/keep the bullet and collect the powder.

I also have some Yugoslavian-made 8mm ammo from the 1950s that is solid and very clean.  Have had no problems with any of the old surplus ammo I use.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 06:12:19 PM
Bah, old ammo is a lot like really expired eggs;  it may still look OK, but you really shouldn't trust it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 06:39:27 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 03:23:56 PM
Dunno.  I have .22 ammo from the 80s that still shoots fine.  How improperly stored was yours? 
they were in a paper bag, in the closet.

Quote
It doesn't take much oil to lubricate a gun (my Glock does fine with 3 drops).  In the absence of proper gun oil, a whole range of oils, greases, etc. could be used as lubricant.  Some guns will run fine for a while without any lubrication whatsoever.
I know it doesn't take much, but you need to have it near you.  If it's unsafe to travel unless in arm bands, you're limited to whatever lubricant you would have home, if you stayed home.  If you moved, well, you might have brought the gun and the bullets, but maybe you forgot the lubricant.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 06:47:38 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 06:39:27 PM
you're limited to whatever lubricant you would have home, if you stayed home.

Or what you can scavenge.  You can walk into just about any big box store in the USA (Target, Wal-Mart, Bass Pro) and buy a can of Rem Oil...
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 19, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 06:47:38 PM
Or what you can scavenge.  You can walk into just about any big box store in the USA (Target, Wal-Mart, Bass Pro) and buy a can of Rem Oil...
Look at the state of the US in The Walking Dead.  And it's been what, 6 months since the world collapsed?  You see the look of the store in a small city after only 6 months?

Once the supply chain breaks down, you're stuck with whatever you can keep and/or carry with you.  If someone raided first, you're out of luck.  I see this in a grocery store when they announce a special on some products, it gets bought very quickly.  Now imagine that there's no resupply.  It's gone, it's gone forever.

In 15 years, you may well be out of lubricant in your neck of the woods.  Maybe the guys who have the guns have stockpiled themselves with lubricant for their guns, as well as ammo.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
Good points, Viper.  By the time you get a chance to loot in Walking Deadland or Revolutionland, the pickin's will be slim.

And, in the event the world ends apocalyptic-style, it's a good place to die very quickly, because someone will be more than willing to shoot you in the face over a 6-pack of Ensure.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
 :lol:  I don't think using a TV show as evidence of how things might be in another TV show is very apt.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 07:32:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
By the time you get a chance to loot in Walking Deadland or Revolutionland, the pickin's will be slim.

Some one is doing the looting.  I am not sure why we are making the assumption that it's unlikely/impossible because others have already looted.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 19, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
I was just rewatching "The Postman" the other day, and I believe it also had a 15-year interval from the original collapse.  That world also looked pretty bleak.

I'm still saying, it felt like Monroe was going to be played by Will Patton.  :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:33:57 PM
:P It's all just human nature.  All I'm saying is the local Wal-Mart's not where you want to be when the shit is hitting the fan.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 19, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:33:57 PM
:P It's all just human nature.  All I'm saying is the local Wal-Mart's not where you want to be when the shit is hitting the fan.

Fuck Wal-Mart, I am heading to Cabela's and Bass Pro Shop. 
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 19, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:33:57 PM
:P It's all just human nature.  All I'm saying is the local Wal-Mart's not where you want to be when the shit is hitting the fan.

Fuck Wal-Mart, I am heading to Cabela's and Bass Pro Shop.

Oh yeah, because the guys interesting in looting those places are less dangerous.  :lol:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 19, 2012, 07:36:23 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 19, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 07:33:57 PM
:P It's all just human nature.  All I'm saying is the local Wal-Mart's not where you want to be when the shit is hitting the fan.

Fuck Wal-Mart, I am heading to Cabela's and Bass Pro Shop.

Oh yeah, because the guys interesting in looting those places are less dangerous.  :lol:

:lol:  Beat me to it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 20, 2012, 09:18:19 AM
Products will be available but there will be a huge black market. After the apocalpyse, the first people into Wal Mart will take everything and then hoarde them selling them later for whatever passes for hard currency.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 20, 2012, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: Liep on September 18, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
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Oh my.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 11:15:30 AM
ugh, feet.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 20, 2012, 11:16:53 AM
Everybody has them.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
gross
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on September 20, 2012, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 06:12:19 PM
Bah, old ammo is a lot like really expired eggs;  it may still look OK, but you really shouldn't trust it.

You'd think that, but old mil-spec ammo holds up pretty well.  The more that I think of it, storage does play a role in preserving the really old stuff (though I'd still contend that 15 years isn't going to make much of a difference as long as it's kept dry).  All military surplus ammo I've bought has come in a sealed can or arrived to the dealer/distributor that way.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: dps on September 20, 2012, 12:30:16 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 20, 2012, 11:16:53 AM
Everybody has them.

Not amputees and thalidomine babies.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 20, 2012, 12:37:46 PM
gross
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 20, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
Google fu says she's was born on May 17 1996, so, 16.

Wikipedia says 1988.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: dps on September 20, 2012, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 20, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
Google fu says she's was born on May 17 1996, so, 16.

Wikipedia says 1988.

You can't always take Wikipedia at face value, but 24 sounds about right.  She certainly doesn't look as young as 16.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
gross

"I always thought you were a leg man."
"Why would I be a leg man?  I have legs."
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 20, 2012, 04:31:10 PM
IMDB doesn't list her age....they mystery deepens.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
gross

"I always thought you were a leg man."
"Why would I be a leg man?  I have legs."


She could put on a pair of knee high socks.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 07:24:31 PM
My God, SNL skits suck ass unless it's political.  They started this special with a Mittens hidden cam thing, which was sorta funny, but it's all been downhill from there.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: mongers on September 20, 2012, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
gross

What's gross about that photo, is the obvious photoshopping, since when did skin look like that ie with its own self-generating highlights.   
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
At least she isn't wearing flip-flops.  :yuk:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 20, 2012, 08:59:06 PM
I'd hit it...especially since we've determined she's not 16. Right?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 09:00:51 PM
We can pretend it is in Mexico.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 21, 2012, 06:14:12 AM
Just saw Revolution. Like I thought before, the meta-narrative is highly implausible. However, I do have some hope for this show. The dialogue and storyline seems more mature than say, Terranova.

Also, considering the Charlie character is in her early 20s, I highly doubt they'd cast a 15 year old actress in the role.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 21, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Quote from: Josephus on September 20, 2012, 08:59:06 PM
I'd hit it...especially since we've determined she's not 16. Right?
you're in Canada, you can still hit it. You'd just be the icky old dude :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 21, 2012, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Quote from: Josephus on September 20, 2012, 08:59:06 PM
I'd hit it...especially since we've determined she's not 16. Right?
you're in Canada, you can still hit it. You'd just be the icky old dude :P

Whew. :D
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 21, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
I think I might watch Last Resort.  It could be interesting.  :hmm:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: dps on September 21, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 21, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
I think I might watch Last Resort.  It could be interesting.  :hmm:

Don't know.  Andre Braugher's always interesting to watch, but the premise sounds almost as dumb as Revolution's.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 21, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
Yeah, but Shawn Ryan is in charge.  He gave us The Shield so I'm willing to watch a little.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
Anyone else watching the new season of Glee? :unsure: :blush:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 21, 2012, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
Anyone else watching the new season of Glee? :unsure: :blush:

:x
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
Anyone else watching the new season of Glee? :unsure: :blush:

:x

My daughter got me into it. Blame her.  :sleep:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 21, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

Indeed, who is in charge here?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

She's 13. It's geared for kids her age. :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 21, 2012, 06:25:39 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

She's 13. It's geared for kids her age. :P
and their mother, apparently ;)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on September 21, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
Anyone else watching the new season of Glee? :unsure: :blush:

My girlfriend is.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 21, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

She's 13. It's geared for kids her age. :P
it's geared for gay dudes, she's just collateral damage :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: mongers on September 21, 2012, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

She's 13. It's geared for kids her age. :P
it's geared for gay dudes, she's just collateral damage :P

I've never seen this, nor heard anything about the show, I assume it's something to do with an cookery show about Indian cuisine  ?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 22, 2012, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 21, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
I think I might watch Last Resort.  It could be interesting.  :hmm:

Don't know.  Andre Braugher's always interesting to watch, but the premise sounds almost as dumb as Revolution's.
It's on hulu, and it is dumb. 
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 22, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
it's geared for gay dudes, she's just collateral damage :P

Nah, it's geared toward young girls, as they are a much bigger demographic. Gays just happen to like a lot of the same stuff.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 10:11:54 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 22, 2012, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Don't know.  Andre Braugher's always interesting to watch, but the premise sounds almost as dumb as Revolution's.
It's on hulu, and it is dumb.

That's a shame;  Andre Braugher's always been a fine actor.  Does it really suck that bad?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 22, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 10:11:54 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 22, 2012, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Don't know.  Andre Braugher's always interesting to watch, but the premise sounds almost as dumb as Revolution's.
It's on hulu, and it is dumb.

That's a shame;  Andre Braugher's always been a fine actor.  Does it really suck that bad?
It doesn't necessarily suck.  It is just kinda dumb.  I'd watch it again, but have no great hope that it'll develop into a great show.  Just something you can watch when it's on.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 22, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

She's 13. It's geared for kids her age. :P
it's geared for gay dudes, she's just collateral damage :P

I'd rather fall on a sword.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 03:33:03 PM
I blame you for letting her watch it in first place.

She's 13. It's geared for kids her age. :P
it's geared for gay dudes, she's just collateral damage :P

I'd rather fall on a sword.

That's pretty gay, too.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 22, 2012, 11:41:17 PM
:goodboy:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on September 23, 2012, 04:18:42 PM
Third and final season of Forbrydelse (The Killing) started today. A couple of really good actors joined the cast and the first episode was really good.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 27, 2012, 10:33:26 PM
The Neighbors

WTF were they on when they greenlit that shit?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 27, 2012, 10:44:33 PM
Jesus Garb. I would think you could tell it was horrible from ads for it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 28, 2012, 07:23:25 AM
I don't have tv so I don't see show ads. :P

Seriously though, how does something like that get air time?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: HVC on September 28, 2012, 08:31:39 AM
Week two of revolution  and we already have a mystery bad guy and a resurrection. Bored with this show already.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on September 28, 2012, 08:38:23 AM
Finished watchign Political Animals with Sigourney Weaver playing Hilary Clin Secretary of State. It was alright. Could have been cut down into four episodes from six. But watchable for the most part.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 28, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
First episode of Last Resort.

Excellent and very credible plot, very deep tv show with lots of unexpected twists.  Excellent acting, especially the pretty girl on the island who spoke one line during the entire hour.

To quote someone:
Quoteit is dumb.

I'll give it a chance.  I'll watch it one more week.

I have yet to watch what could be my final episode of World Without End.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 28, 2012, 11:15:25 AM
Show's can be dumb and entertaining.  I just don't know that this one has any staying power. 
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 28, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
Lucy Liu is enough reason to avoid that show.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 28, 2012, 04:16:19 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 28, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
Lucy Liu is enough reason to avoid that show.

<_<
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 28, 2012, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
First episode of Last Resort.

Excellent and very credible plot, very deep tv show with lots of unexpected twists.  Excellent acting, especially the pretty girl on the island who spoke one line during the entire hour.

To quote someone:
Quoteit is dumb.

I'll give it a chance.  I'll watch it one more week.

I have yet to watch what could be my final episode of World Without End.

Interesting enough that I'll follow it, but I feel it will be like Terra Nova.

And speaking of dinosaurs, if you want to see more of the island girl, check out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Rex

...it's absolutely terrible, but it has a lot of her in a loincloth bikini.


(I saw it on the Syfy channel...though youtube actually has the entire move, but only dubbed in spanish)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

I can just see the scene in the TV Producer's Boardroom:

"Yeah, we like us some US version of Sherlock. But that Sherlock-Watson stuff is too fruity for the US audience. I mean, what are they, queer or something?  :hmm: Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 28, 2012, 05:24:17 PM
I like Downey and Law and their FX budget.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 28, 2012, 09:37:22 PM
Tosh's new animated show on Comedy Central, Brickleberry, is pretty fucking funny.  It's not South Park, but it's funny and better than some of that other animation they've tossed around before. 
I think Ed would appreciate it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: dps on September 28, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "

Them how do you explain the casting of Lucy Liu?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 29, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 28, 2012, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
First episode of Last Resort.

Excellent and very credible plot, very deep tv show with lots of unexpected twists.  Excellent acting, especially the pretty girl on the island who spoke one line during the entire hour.

To quote someone:
Quoteit is dumb.

I'll give it a chance.  I'll watch it one more week.

I have yet to watch what could be my final episode of World Without End.

Interesting enough that I'll follow it, but I feel it will be like Terra Nova.

And speaking of dinosaurs, if you want to see more of the island girl, check out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Rex

...it's absolutely terrible, but it has a lot of her in a loincloth bikini.


(I saw it on the Syfy channel...though youtube actually has the entire move, but only dubbed in spanish)

I might check it if it runs on Space (Canadian Syfy).  Thanks :)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 29, 2012, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: dps on September 28, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "

Them how do you explain the casting of Lucy Liu?

<_<
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 29, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
Don't mind dps, he only likes fat chicks.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Lucy Liu is funky looking for an Asian chick.  The only one funkier-looking is that weirdo looking one from Gray's Anatomy, looks like that naked teen from the napalmed village photo from Vietnam.
Two decidedly unattractive Asian chicks.  Hottie? Nottie.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 29, 2012, 03:35:08 PM
Her eyes are slantier than most, 'tis all.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: MadImmortalMan on September 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 29, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 28, 2012, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
First episode of Last Resort.

Excellent and very credible plot, very deep tv show with lots of unexpected twists.  Excellent acting, especially the pretty girl on the island who spoke one line during the entire hour.

To quote someone:
Quoteit is dumb.

I'll give it a chance.  I'll watch it one more week.

I have yet to watch what could be my final episode of World Without End.

Interesting enough that I'll follow it, but I feel it will be like Terra Nova.

And speaking of dinosaurs, if you want to see more of the island girl, check out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Rex

...it's absolutely terrible, but it has a lot of her in a loincloth bikini.


(I saw it on the Syfy channel...though youtube actually has the entire move, but only dubbed in spanish)

I might check it if it runs on Space (Canadian Syfy).  Thanks :)


She's more famous for Dollhouse.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on September 29, 2012, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Lucy Liu is funky looking for an Asian chick.  The only one funkier-looking is that weirdo looking one from Gray's Anatomy, looks like that naked teen from the napalmed village photo from Vietnam.
Two decidedly unattractive Asian chicks.  Hottie? Nottie.

:contract:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: FunkMonk on September 29, 2012, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 29, 2012, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Lucy Liu is funky looking for an Asian chick.  The only one funkier-looking is that weirdo looking one from Gray's Anatomy, looks like that naked teen from the napalmed village photo from Vietnam.
Two decidedly unattractive Asian chicks.  Hottie? Nottie.

:contract:

<_<
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on September 29, 2012, 05:36:12 PM
Habbu and Seedy are weird.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 29, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
She's more famous for Dollhouse.
I know.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: mongers on September 29, 2012, 07:17:23 PM
Saw the last episode of Doctor Who were he says goodbye to Amy and thingy, ok and hopefully they'll change propensity to emotional cliffh-hangers.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Scipio on September 29, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Okay, pilot of Last Resort jumped the shark three times.  I don't care how fucking awesome Andre Braugher is, this show is bullshit.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josquius on September 29, 2012, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 29, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
She's more famous for Dollhouse.
I know.
We're talking about that bizzare looking Australian east asian girl?
She is.....strange. Can't decide whether she's hot or not. Certainly unique.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 29, 2012, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 29, 2012, 11:14:42 PM
Can't decide whether she's hot or not.

She is, though not as much as Dushku and Acker.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Camerus on September 30, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Revolution gave me brain damage from its stupidity.  Even if you accept the premise, there's just a new assault on your intellect every 30 seconds.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

I can just see the scene in the TV Producer's Boardroom:

"Yeah, we like us some US version of Sherlock. But that Sherlock-Watson stuff is too fruity for the US audience. I mean, what are they, queer or something?  :hmm: Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "

I don't understand why a friendship depicted on TV automatically becomes suggestive of ghey sex? Watson courts women (or in the reboot, he dates) and usually it is going fine until she meets sherlock.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 30, 2012, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 29, 2012, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 29, 2012, 11:14:42 PM
Can't decide whether she's hot or not.

She is, though not as much as Dushku and Acker.
I disagree. She is not attractive.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on September 30, 2012, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 29, 2012, 11:14:42 PM
We're talking about that bizzare looking Australian east asian girl?
She is.....strange. Can't decide whether she's hot or not. Certainly unique.
Yes, she's hot, but it takes a while to notice.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Malthus on September 30, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

I can just see the scene in the TV Producer's Boardroom:

"Yeah, we like us some US version of Sherlock. But that Sherlock-Watson stuff is too fruity for the US audience. I mean, what are they, queer or something?  :hmm: Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "

I don't understand why a friendship depicted on TV automatically becomes suggestive of ghey sex? Watson courts women (or in the reboot, he dates) and usually it is going fine until she meets sherlock.

What was standard stuff in late Victorian times up until maybe the 1960s (close platonic friendships between men depicted in fiction; some men, like Holmes, essentially asexual) is always considered to be the stuff of gay innuendo in the modern era.

Look at Tintin. Intrepid boy reporter moves in with retired sea-captain; neither has the slightest interest in women (a running gag is that the only female character - an opera diva who looks very much like a man in drag - has the hots for the captain, and he hates it). No biggie right before or after WW2, but if you set it nowadays people would just assume there was something going on. 
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 30, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
What was standard stuff in late Victorian times up until maybe the 1960s (close platonic friendships between men depicted in fiction; some men, like Holmes, essentially asexual) is always considered to be the stuff of gay innuendo in the modern era.

Fags see fags everywhere, film at 11.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 30, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 30, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
What was standard stuff in late Victorian times up until maybe the 1960s (close platonic friendships between men depicted in fiction; some men, like Holmes, essentially asexual) is always considered to be the stuff of gay innuendo in the modern era.

Fags see fags everywhere, film at 11.

Like how you cropped the quote. If you'd kept all of it - I'd say that it's generally best if we assume nothing sexual is going on when older men spend lots of time seeking to hang around young boys.

Oh and additional, I think the blame really should be put on heterosexuals. You're the ones who created the culture where it is problematic to appear gay.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 30, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
Finally watched Last Resort. What a hot mess of nonsensical plot. :D
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 30, 2012, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 30, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
Finally watched Last Resort. What a hot mess of nonsensical plot. :D

Yeah, while I get the whole "desperate President is probably starting a war to bolster his position" idea...they didn't sell it well at all.

And NATO with a listening post on some kind of pirate/criminal-run island...I am guessing somewhere in the Indian Ocean?  I don't buy it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on September 30, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
My favorite was their tactic to make the bombers leave the area.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on September 30, 2012, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 30, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
My favorite was their tactic to make the bombers leave the area.

Well, now I am not sure what else they could have plausibly done.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 30, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

I can just see the scene in the TV Producer's Boardroom:

"Yeah, we like us some US version of Sherlock. But that Sherlock-Watson stuff is too fruity for the US audience. I mean, what are they, queer or something?  :hmm: Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "

I don't understand why a friendship depicted on TV automatically becomes suggestive of ghey sex? Watson courts women (or in the reboot, he dates) and usually it is going fine until she meets sherlock.

What was standard stuff in late Victorian times up until maybe the 1960s (close platonic friendships between men depicted in fiction; some men, like Holmes, essentially asexual) is always considered to be the stuff of gay innuendo in the modern era.

Look at Tintin. Intrepid boy reporter moves in with retired sea-captain; neither has the slightest interest in women (a running gag is that the only female character - an opera diva who looks very much like a man in drag - has the hots for the captain, and he hates it). No biggie right before or after WW2, but if you set it nowadays people would just assume there was something going on.

yes yes yes, you answered a "why" question with a "what" answer. I want to know when men stopped having deep meaningful personal platonic relationships with other men in media and why this happened. Wertham accused Batman and Robin of not being masculin enough in "The Seduction of the Innocent", but it doesn't seem to have taken back then. You have more than enough depictions of male friendships in the media. It is almost as if in 1968 it all changed and all of a sudden buddy cops don't have emotions (except when somebody dies) and groups of friends always have three or more males never two.

When is the last time you heard of an adult male saying that somebody is his best friend in any form of media?

What does this mean for today's males if there are no role models of male friendship?

Am I getting paranoid about post-modernism?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 30, 2012, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 30, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 28, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

I can just see the scene in the TV Producer's Boardroom:

"Yeah, we like us some US version of Sherlock. But that Sherlock-Watson stuff is too fruity for the US audience. I mean, what are they, queer or something?  :hmm: Wait, I know - make Watson a hott chick! Pure genius!  :smarty: "

I don't understand why a friendship depicted on TV automatically becomes suggestive of ghey sex? Watson courts women (or in the reboot, he dates) and usually it is going fine until she meets sherlock.

What was standard stuff in late Victorian times up until maybe the 1960s (close platonic friendships between men depicted in fiction; some men, like Holmes, essentially asexual) is always considered to be the stuff of gay innuendo in the modern era.

Look at Tintin. Intrepid boy reporter moves in with retired sea-captain; neither has the slightest interest in women (a running gag is that the only female character - an opera diva who looks very much like a man in drag - has the hots for the captain, and he hates it). No biggie right before or after WW2, but if you set it nowadays people would just assume there was something going on.

yes yes yes, you answered a "why" question with a "what" answer. I want to know when men stopped having deep meaningful personal platonic relationships with other men in media and why this happened. Wertham accused Batman and Robin of not being masculin enough in "The Seduction of the Innocent", but it doesn't seem to have taken back then. You have more than enough depictions of male friendships in the media. It is almost as if in 1968 it all changed and all of a sudden buddy cops don't have emotions (except when somebody dies) and groups of friends always have three or more males never two.

When is the last time you heard of an adult male saying that somebody is his best friend in any form of media?

What does this mean for today's males if there are no role models of male friendship?

Am I getting paranoid about post-modernism?
Clerks II, Randall and Dante in the holding cell.

It means that people should be concerned.

Yes, with good reason.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 30, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
When is the last time you heard of an adult male saying that somebody is his best friend in any form of media?

When's the last time you heard of an adult male saying he loves Cheetos in any form of media? And why would that be something you'd remember?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: frunk on September 30, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Lucy Liu is funky looking for an Asian chick.  The only one funkier-looking is that weirdo looking one from Gray's Anatomy, looks like that naked teen from the napalmed village photo from Vietnam.
Two decidedly unattractive Asian chicks.  Hottie? Nottie.

Devon Aoki is wierder looking than either one, although she's only half Japanese.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: frunk on September 30, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Lucy Liu is funky looking for an Asian chick.  The only one funkier-looking is that weirdo looking one from Gray's Anatomy, looks like that naked teen from the napalmed village photo from Vietnam.
Two decidedly unattractive Asian chicks.  Hottie? Nottie.

Devon Aoki is wierder looking than either one, although she's only half Japanese.

Yeah, she looks like a pug dog that's been walloped with a shovel to the snout.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 30, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
She looks kinda like a caricature of Summer Glau.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josquius on October 01, 2012, 03:53:53 AM
Hey, gotta respect Lucy Liu, despite being only middling attractive she's managed to leverage her exoticness to be regarded as one of the hottest women in the world (or at least a few years ago she frequently got voted such)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Gups on October 01, 2012, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 30, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
When is the last time you heard of an adult male saying that somebody is his best friend in any form of media?

When's the last time you heard of an adult male saying he loves Cheetos in any form of media? And why would that be something you'd remember?

Hank in Breaking Bad Season 4.

It was essential to the plot. His annoying missus had got him something else., that sounded like cheetos.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on October 01, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
What are Cheetos and what is the significance of a male adult liking them?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 01, 2012, 01:19:31 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 01, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
What are Cheetos and what is the significance of a male adult liking them?

I think ET was trying to flippantly suggest that what Viking highlighted as an issue (the scarcity of modern media images of males being best friends without being gay), isn't really an issue.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on October 01, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2012, 01:19:31 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 01, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
What are Cheetos and what is the significance of a male adult liking them?

I think ET was trying to flippantly suggest that what Viking highlighted as an issue (the scarcity of modern media images of males being best friends without being gay), isn't really an issue.

Ah, thanks.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Sahib on October 01, 2012, 01:27:17 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 30, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
When is the last time you heard of an adult male saying that somebody is his best friend in any form of media?

Scrubs, c. 2009
Community, c. 2012  :hmm:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 01, 2012, 01:36:56 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 30, 2012, 03:52:30 PM
I am guessing somewhere in the Indian Ocean?  I don't buy it.
Close to Reunion island, but they didn't name it that way to avoid potential conflicts, I guess.  It's a fictional island.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Zanza on October 01, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
Just watched the first episode of the new Dexter season. Certainly looks much, much more promising than the last two seasons.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: derspiess on October 01, 2012, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2012, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: frunk on September 30, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 29, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Lucy Liu is funky looking for an Asian chick.  The only one funkier-looking is that weirdo looking one from Gray's Anatomy, looks like that naked teen from the napalmed village photo from Vietnam.
Two decidedly unattractive Asian chicks.  Hottie? Nottie.

Devon Aoki is wierder looking than either one, although she's only half Japanese.

Yeah, she looks like a pug dog that's been walloped with a shovel to the snout.

Had to look her up, and you're 100% correct :lol:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 01, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Gups on October 01, 2012, 12:08:52 PM
Hank in Breaking Bad Season 4.

It was essential to the plot. His annoying missus had got him something else., that sounded like cheetos.

:lol:

I remember that too, now that you mention it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 01, 2012, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: Zanza on October 01, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
Just watched the first episode of the new Dexter season. Certainly looks much, much more promising than the last two seasons.

for sure. The tension between Dex and sister can make for a great season. Last couple have been found wanting.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 02, 2012, 10:32:59 AM
Anyone picked up the Stephen King references in last night's Revolution?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Liep on October 03, 2012, 03:24:19 PM
I gave up on that show after the revolutionary fire squad.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on October 03, 2012, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 02, 2012, 10:32:59 AM
Anyone picked up the Stephen King references in last night's Revolution?

The show seems like one big infomercial for the gun lobby in the US.  Not sure how much longer I will watch it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 03, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
I'll take that as a no.

When the main guy and the cute young lady go to the rebel base they introduce themselves as Stu Redman and Frannie (characters from The Stand).

When they prepare to build a tunnel they say "let's Shawshank our way out of here."

Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on October 03, 2012, 05:12:20 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 03, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
I'll take that as a no.

When the main guy and the cute young lady go to the rebel base they introduce themselves as Stu Redman and Frannie (characters from The Stand).

When they prepare to build a tunnel they say "let's Shawshank our way out of here."

I also noticed the rebel camp was located at "Lone Pine Mall" for a Back to the Future reference.  :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 03, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

Now that I've seen this - not sure I really get your comment. First episode makes a big deal out of the fact the characters (not the actors) don't have any sort of chemistry...with Lucy Liu's Watson being very turned off by Holmes.  Strikes me as pretty accurate as know one loves a know-it-all. I think the point is that over the story arc then they'd start getting along better once they understand each other. No idea if the writing/acting will successfully pull that off.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: FunkMonk on October 03, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 03, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Caught the last fifteen minutes of CBS' Sherlock Holmes knockoff last night.

Unimpressive. Poorly cast Sherlock Holmes; guy looks like a bad bartender. I can buy a female Watson (especially Lucy Liu  :perv:), but the two don't seem to have any chemistry. Definitely not the type of energy like between Cumberbatch and Freeman.

I didn't see the whole show so I can't really speak to the story or the case.

Now that I've seen this - not sure I really get your comment. First episode makes a big deal out of the fact the characters (not the actors) don't have any sort of chemistry...with Lucy Liu's Watson being very turned off by Holmes.  Strikes me as pretty accurate as know one loves a know-it-all. I think the point is that over the story arc then they'd start getting along better once they understand each other. No idea if the writing/acting will successfully pull that off.

Fair enough. Like I said I didn't see the entire show, just the final 15 minutes.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Sophie Scholl on October 04, 2012, 01:25:35 AM
Totally not impressed by 3 of the returning shows I watch.  The Mentalist, Castle, and Once Upon A Time just came out terribly flat, boring, or utterly predictable.  I'll give them a couple more weeks, but it doesn't look good. :(
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 04, 2012, 02:08:04 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 04, 2012, 01:25:35 AM
Totally not impressed by 3 of the returning shows I watch.  The Mentalist, Castle, and Once Upon A Time just came out terribly flat, boring, or utterly predictable.  I'll give them a couple more weeks, but it doesn't look good. :(

I gave up on OUAT about 2/3 through the first season. Been a while since there was a network show I felt worth watching for two seasons. Thinking Community may have been the latest one. And of course it has flirted with cancellation the whole time.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Sophie Scholl on October 04, 2012, 02:36:36 AM
Come to think of it, Grimm is pretty bad too this season.  It's lost even its moderate brain release of the week function.  About the only shows that I'm enjoying now are Hell on Wheels and Copper, and they both end soon.  Ugh. :(
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on October 04, 2012, 02:41:03 AM
I noticed Last Resort was on my DVR, so I went ahead and checked it out:  yeah okay that was dumb



Oh and what the hell was that dancing shit when they crossed the equator?  I got blasted in the face with a fire hose, (temporarily) locked in a coffin full of ice water, had some shit dumped on me that smelled really bad and stuck around for quite a while, and had to grovel at the court of Neptune, among other filthy wog-like things.  Then they gave me a card and let me do the same shit to wogs later on.  There was no dancing. 

e: I mean come on.  If you're going to make a ridiculous show about a bunch of bubbleheads going off and creating their own dumb island nation with nukes or whatever, at least get the hazing parts right.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 04, 2012, 07:01:28 AM
What you described wouldn't have been at all fun to watch...but just awkward.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 04, 2012, 07:10:56 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 04, 2012, 02:41:03 AM
e: I mean come on.  If you're going to make a ridiculous show about a bunch of bubbleheads going off and creating their own dumb island nation with nukes or whatever, at least get the hazing parts right.

Slamming dolphin pins into each others' chests until they bleed like stuck pigs doesn't translate well into the prime time family time slot.  Especially with a coed crew.   :lol:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 04, 2012, 07:31:53 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 04, 2012, 02:41:03 AM
I noticed Last Resort was on my DVR, so I went ahead and checked it out:  yeah okay that was dumb



Oh and what the hell was that dancing shit when they crossed the equator?  I got blasted in the face with a fire hose, (temporarily) locked in a coffin full of ice water, had some shit dumped on me that smelled really bad and stuck around for quite a while, and had to grovel at the court of Neptune, among other filthy wog-like things.  Then they gave me a card and let me do the same shit to wogs later on.  There was no dancing. 

e: I mean come on.  If you're going to make a ridiculous show about a bunch of bubbleheads going off and creating their own dumb island nation with nukes or whatever, at least get the hazing parts right.

I've heard that submariners get vicious with the jokes.  Probably wouldn't play well for the family hour.  Save the hardcore stuff for when they wanna remake OZ but in a sub.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Faeelin on October 04, 2012, 07:36:37 AM
You know, as much as Revolutions bothers me, I kind of like that its protagonists view the collapse of the USA as a bad thing. Unlike the series the idea was stolen from, where everyone goes WEE FEUDAL KINGSHIPS.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 04, 2012, 10:15:26 AM
Somebody had been reading SM Stirling.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Brazen on October 04, 2012, 11:12:24 AM
The 10th series of Red Dwarf begins tonight. Hope it's an improvement over the last couple of cheap-ass series.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on October 04, 2012, 02:53:57 PM
Quote from: Brazen on October 04, 2012, 11:12:24 AM
The 10th series of Red Dwarf begins tonight. Hope it's an improvement over the last couple of cheap-ass series.

OMG - send me the file!
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 04:11:22 PM
So after that Apocalyptic finale, I guess Hell on Wheels is done for good?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Sophie Scholl on October 09, 2012, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 04:11:22 PM
So after that Apocalyptic finale, I guess Hell on Wheels is done for good?
I hope not.  Still plenty of characters to have their lives made miserable/more miserable.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 09, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 04:11:22 PM
So after that Apocalyptic finale, I guess Hell on Wheels is done for good?

It'll get renewed, it's AMC's 2nd biggest show (behind the Walking Dead).
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 09, 2012, 10:59:39 PM
Heh, Morrissey performs on the Colbert Report.

Same hair style as 15 years ago, only grayer.

Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 09, 2012, 11:05:20 PM
I appreciated seeing Lucy Lawless on Parks & Recreation. :wub:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.

:hmm: Good question.

To google!

Walking dead has an average of 5.24 millions viewers (high of 9 millions with Final Episode of season 2)
Breaking Bad has an average of ~1.5 millions (with an high of 3 millions in season 5)
Mad Men has an average of ~2.5 millions (with an high of of 3.5 millions in season 5)
Hell on Wheels has an average of ~2,75 millions (with an high 4.5 millions in season 1)

Breaking Bad isn't as big as you would think, eh.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Malthus on October 10, 2012, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.

:hmm: Good question.

To google!

Walking dead has an average of 5.24 millions viewers (high of 9 millions with Final Episode of season 2)
Breaking Bad has an average of ~1.5 millions (with an high of 3 millions in season 5)
Mad Men has an average of ~2.5 millions (with an high of of 3.5 millions in season 5)
Hell on Wheels has an average of ~2,75 millions (with an high 4.5 millions in season 1)

Breaking Bad isn't as big as you would think, eh.

Given that it is all about the moral descent of its main character from bad to worse, from somewhat sympathetic to wholly unlikeable, I'm surprised it is as popular as it is.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 10, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.

:hmm: Good question.

To google!

Walking dead has an average of 5.24 millions viewers (high of 9 millions with Final Episode of season 2)
Breaking Bad has an average of ~1.5 millions (with an high of 3 millions in season 5)
Mad Men has an average of ~2.5 millions (with an high of of 3.5 millions in season 5)
Hell on Wheels has an average of ~2,75 millions (with an high 4.5 millions in season 1)

Breaking Bad isn't as big as you would think, eh.

I'm very very surprised. Hell on Wheels is the one I hear people talking about the least. It's also not one that gets as much critical acclaim as all the rest. I'm quite surprised by these figures.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Gups on October 10, 2012, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.

:hmm: Good question.

To google!

Walking dead has an average of 5.24 millions viewers (high of 9 millions with Final Episode of season 2)
Breaking Bad has an average of ~1.5 millions (with an high of 3 millions in season 5)
Mad Men has an average of ~2.5 millions (with an high of of 3.5 millions in season 5)
Hell on Wheels has an average of ~2,75 millions (with an high 4.5 millions in season 1)

Breaking Bad isn't as big as you would think, eh.

BB averaged 2.6m in season 5 according to this

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/09/breaking-bad-midseason-finale-ratings-way-up-over-season-4.html
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 10, 2012, 09:09:45 AM
Breaking Bad is also probably the cheapest to produce.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 09:21:21 AM
Talking about produce. I was watching Boardwalk Empire last night. The show has, like, a billion producers. How many producers does a show need, ffs.

Real figure is 19.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Gups on October 10, 2012, 10:08:08 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 09:21:21 AM
Talking about produce. I was watching Boardwalk Empire last night. The show has, like, a billion producers. How many producers does a show need, ffs.

Real figure is 19.

I noticed that. Probably just job title inflation.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: crazy canuck on October 10, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: Gups on October 10, 2012, 10:08:08 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 09:21:21 AM
Talking about produce. I was watching Boardwalk Empire last night. The show has, like, a billion producers. How many producers does a show need, ffs.

Real figure is 19.

I noticed that. Probably just job title inflation.

Like the guy who "produces" a cup of coffee from the catering truck?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Valmy on October 10, 2012, 11:56:37 AM
In TV the scriptwriters often get called 'Executive Producer' for some odd reason. So those could be the writers.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 10, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: Gups on October 10, 2012, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.

:hmm: Good question.

To google!

Walking dead has an average of 5.24 millions viewers (high of 9 millions with Final Episode of season 2)
Breaking Bad has an average of ~1.5 millions (with an high of 3 millions in season 5)
Mad Men has an average of ~2.5 millions (with an high of of 3.5 millions in season 5)
Hell on Wheels has an average of ~2,75 millions (with an high 4.5 millions in season 1)

Breaking Bad isn't as big as you would think, eh.

BB averaged 2.6m in season 5 according to this

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/09/breaking-bad-midseason-finale-ratings-way-up-over-season-4.html

Yeah.  Averages are a really bad way to compare all those shows.  Plenty of shows have mediocre ratings for their first season only to build a following and expand upon it.  The Walking Dead's second season had significantly higher ratings than its first, for example, whereas Hell on Wheels has dropped viewership rather consistently.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 18, 2012, 01:50:46 PM
Finally saw Revolution and Walking Dead.

Revolution
I'm beginning to like that show.  I was totally expecting a rescue plan to work, and it didn't.  :)  I like surprises.
However, I wonder why he didn't simply unhook the locomotive, or the wagons containing the militia soldiers first.  It's not like they have real time communications.  And given the blast the bomb made, I wonder how it could possibly have destroyed all of the train, ammunitions, guns and people on board.  Sure, it would have derailed.  A few people would have been killed and injured, but it's not critical.

Anyway.  TV isn't always about what makes sense :P  Lost never made any sense, yet it was fun :)


Walking dead

Some of the zombies were in a catatonic state, until food happenned to pass by and they grabbed it.  It could be the zombies in the cell were also in that state, only awakening when food came nearby.  It also seems zombies can and will feed on each other if food is scarce.  Or an half eaten guy reanimated.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 18, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 10, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: Gups on October 10, 2012, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 10, 2012, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 09, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Bigger than Mad Men and Breaking Bad? Really?

I like it and I hope it comes back.

:hmm: Good question.

To google!

Walking dead has an average of 5.24 millions viewers (high of 9 millions with Final Episode of season 2)
Breaking Bad has an average of ~1.5 millions (with an high of 3 millions in season 5)
Mad Men has an average of ~2.5 millions (with an high of of 3.5 millions in season 5)
Hell on Wheels has an average of ~2,75 millions (with an high 4.5 millions in season 1)

Breaking Bad isn't as big as you would think, eh.

BB averaged 2.6m in season 5 according to this

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/09/breaking-bad-midseason-finale-ratings-way-up-over-season-4.html

Yeah.  Averages are a really bad way to compare all those shows.  Plenty of shows have mediocre ratings for their first season only to build a following and expand upon it.  The Walking Dead's second season had significantly higher ratings than its first, for example, whereas Hell on Wheels has dropped viewership rather consistently.

Isn't that why GF provided for overall and for their top season?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 18, 2012, 02:31:06 PM
Seemed to me that he was providing a peak episode, not a peak average.  TWD didn't average 9 million in its second season.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 18, 2012, 03:15:24 PM
Well on that one he called out episode but the others?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 18, 2012, 03:47:33 PM
The others are peak episodes as well, not seasons.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 18, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
Ah, gotcha.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on October 18, 2012, 04:50:58 PM
Just to be all Timmah....this is the full map from the latest episode of Revolution....

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.revolution-show.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2Fmonroe-republic-revolution-map.jpg&hash=a276c0f6904e3bf1be38dc32b2bfe9b177d86c1d)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 18, 2012, 05:27:45 PM
Looks like my current game of Victoria.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 18, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
Georgia uber alles.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 18, 2012, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 18, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
Georgia uber alles.

Yeah it gets all the states that were already shitty pre-crisis. Not sure if that makes them better or less prepared. :D
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 18, 2012, 05:45:56 PM
More manpower to be fed into the front lines while Georgians sit back and sip lemonade.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 18, 2012, 05:46:48 PM
Without A/C, though, I can see the majority of the people in most of those states staging a mass exodus and heading north.  No way would I stick around for a summer without it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 18, 2012, 05:47:42 PM
Not true, doesn't get Arkansas, West Virginia or New Jersey.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 18, 2012, 07:06:55 PM
Southern side of the St-Lawrence with the Yanks?

:lol: I don't think so.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 18, 2012, 07:12:24 PM
I don't get the impression citizenship in the Monroe Republic is strictly voluntary.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 18, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
AT least they've left Canada alone.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 18, 2012, 09:29:49 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
AT least they've left Canada alone.

Flannel reversed the polarity.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 19, 2012, 09:13:20 AM
American Horror Story anyone? Guilty pleasure for me.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
AT least they've left Canada alone.
they took the Martimes and the south shore of the St-Lawrence.  They got agriculture, potatoes and fisheries.  No need for anything else.  Look at the map, nobody wants to go to Nevada, so presumably, nobody wants to go to Toronto or Montreal without electricity :D
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 19, 2012, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
  They got agriculture, potatoes and fisheries.

Interesting how you consider those first two separate categories.  :hmm:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
  They got agriculture, potatoes and fisheries.

Interesting how you consider those first two separate categories.  :hmm:
Freedom Fries aren't technically a vegetable :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Is wheat?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Is wheat?
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in America, someone found a way to deep frie wheat :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on October 19, 2012, 01:29:33 PM
Either us or the Scottish.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 19, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Is wheat?
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in America, someone found a way to deep frie wheat :P

Point being, "agriculture" covers pretty much any plant cultivation, not just veggies.  :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on October 19, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Is wheat?
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in America, someone found a way to deep frie wheat :P

It's aboriginal.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fc1zK58TYU

And very tasty.  But the first/last time I tried to make some at home...I could almost feel my heart stopping as I ate it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 19, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 19, 2012, 09:13:20 AM
American Horror Story anyone? Guilty pleasure for me.

Most definitely.  Loved last season.  Looking forward to sadistic nuns this season.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Is wheat?
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in America, someone found a way to deep frie wheat :P

Point being, "agriculture" covers pretty much any plant cultivation, not just veggies.  :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 19, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Is wheat?
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in America, someone found a way to deep frie wheat :P

Point being, "agriculture" covers pretty much any plant cultivation, not just veggies.  :P
I just can't imagine myself living in a world without fries.  that's why I thought of the New Brunswick and PEI giant potatoes as a seperate issue :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 19, 2012, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 10:48:28 PM
I just can't imagine myself living in a world without fries.

/shudder
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Barrister on October 19, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
AT least they've left Canada alone.
they took the Martimes and the south shore of the St-Lawrence.  They got agriculture, potatoes and fisheries.  No need for anything else.  Look at the map, nobody wants to go to Nevada, so presumably, nobody wants to go to Toronto or Montreal without electricity :D

They've also got south-western Manitoba, but only south of the Assiniboine, and west of the Red.  Which doesn't make any real sense, since there are a whole bunch of convenient bridges across both rivers.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 20, 2012, 06:05:42 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 19, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
AT least they've left Canada alone.
they took the Martimes and the south shore of the St-Lawrence.  They got agriculture, potatoes and fisheries.  No need for anything else.  Look at the map, nobody wants to go to Nevada, so presumably, nobody wants to go to Toronto or Montreal without electricity :D

They've also got south-western Manitoba, but only south of the Assiniboine, and west of the Red.  Which doesn't make any real sense, since there are a whole bunch of convenient bridges across both rivers.

Makes perfect sense. No one is going to spend much time researching Canada.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 20, 2012, 11:57:33 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 19, 2012, 09:13:20 AM
American Horror Story anyone? Guilty pleasure for me.

Definitely. I love that they are reusing part of the old cast. This season so far feels a lot like "Quills". It also confirms my theory that gays write best horrors. :P
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 20, 2012, 05:43:40 PM
I was actually hoping they'd use more than two of the old cast. It's a neat concept to have them come back in different roles...but I guess it's just the two, Jessica Lange and the young guy.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 20, 2012, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
They've also got south-western Manitoba, but only south of the Assiniboine, and west of the Red.  Which doesn't make any real sense, since there are a whole bunch of convenient bridges across both rivers.
that's the Plains Nation, though, another one :)

I figure bridges might have been destroyed during combat.  They hinted at some war between various militias.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 21, 2012, 01:41:01 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 20, 2012, 05:43:40 PM
I was actually hoping they'd use more than two of the old cast. It's a neat concept to have them come back in different roles...but I guess it's just the two, Jessica Lange and the young guy.

The young nun is also from the old cast (she was the ghost of the doctor's wife). So is the lesbian journalist (she was the psychic friend of Jessica Lange's character). Also Zachary Quinto (the gay guy) was mentioned in the opening credits, and I read Frances Conroy (the older version of the maid) is going to be back.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 21, 2012, 01:49:20 AM
By the way, the young guy (Evan Peters) has a hot ass.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 21, 2012, 02:36:13 AM
So, I just found out that the things on the left also have a show on TV. WTF US? Why hasn't that mother had her parental rights taken away yet?  :huh:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 21, 2012, 06:30:48 AM
Somebody discovered Honey Boo Boo.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 21, 2012, 07:42:00 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 21, 2012, 02:36:13 AM
So, I just found out that the things on the left also have a show on TV. WTF US? Why hasn't that mother had her parental rights taken away yet?  :huh:

They were & they were given to a Production company, as per the law.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 21, 2012, 08:43:32 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 21, 2012, 02:36:13 AM
So, I just found out that the things on the left also have a show on TV. WTF US?

You don't have carnivals in Poland?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 21, 2012, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 21, 2012, 01:49:20 AM
By the way, the young guy (Evan Peters) has a hot ass.

I'll take your word for it. <_<
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 21, 2012, 06:30:48 AM
Somebody discovered Honey Boo Boo.

Isn't the "Honey Boo Boo gets impregnated by local white trash that may or may not be a familial relation' episode coming up in a few weeks?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 21, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 21, 2012, 06:30:48 AM
Somebody discovered Honey Boo Boo.

Isn't the "Honey Boo Boo gets impregnated by local white trash that may or may not be a familial relation' episode coming up in a few weeks?
It hasn't already been aired? Repeatedly? With different relations?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on October 21, 2012, 06:34:34 PM
I fondly remember TLC's early days, when it actually had decent programming on it.  :(
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 21, 2012, 06:38:04 PM
There was a show called extreme cheapskates. People who dumpster dive for food and shit like that.

Sometimes I hate this country.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 21, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
What do they call dumpster diving in Paris?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 07:05:34 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 21, 2012, 06:34:34 PM
I fondly remember TLC's early days, when it actually had decent programming on it.  :(

I think this sums it up best:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3-ec.buzzfed.com%2Fstatic%2Fenhanced%2Fweb05%2F2012%2F10%2F8%2F15%2Fenhanced-buzz-13869-1349724427-5.jpg&hash=dbafb572fc213f46363417ce2221e9611b80d3bf)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 21, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
I like the Whisker Wars one, with assholes with beards talk smack about one another and..... talk smack about one another....
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 24, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
My new guilty pleasure: The New Normal  :blush:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: katmai on October 24, 2012, 01:41:36 PM
We never would have seen that coming.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 24, 2012, 02:12:13 PM
The trailers make it look like all guilt, no pleasure. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 24, 2012, 02:13:07 PM
There are parts that are funny - though for the most part it seems to rely on exploiting stereotypes.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Zanza on October 24, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
I am watching Homeland and Dexter. Both are up to promising starts after a third of each season. Although both don't make much sense, but certainly more than the first episode of Revolution.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
What do you feel doesn't make sense about Homeland?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 24, 2012, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
What do you feel doesn't make sense about Homeland?

It's probably because it makes him think.  Makes brain hurted.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Zanza on October 24, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
What do you feel doesn't make sense about Homeland?
How did that SD card go from the park in Washington to the bag in Lebanon?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: Zanza on October 24, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
What do you feel doesn't make sense about Homeland?
How did that SD card go from the park in Washington to the bag in Lebanon?

It is what is known in common parlance as a "copy."
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 24, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Zanza on October 24, 2012, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
It is what is known in common parlance as a "copy."
Doesn't explain why the Hezbollah commander has it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 24, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Zanza on October 24, 2012, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 24, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
It is what is known in common parlance as a "copy."
Doesn't explain why the Hezbollah commander has it.

He's part of the Nazir network?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Zanza on October 25, 2012, 12:15:01 PM
Except he wasn't. Nazir has never been mentioned together with Hezbollah before and the initial scenes of the first series played in Iraq.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Grey Fox on October 25, 2012, 12:18:26 PM
There's alot of secrecy around Nazir tho.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 25, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 24, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
My new guilty pleasure: The New Normal  :blush:

Were you actually excited about this week's that said gays should fight for recognition in the Church?
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:26:34 PM
So current stats have Last Resort headed out the door, while Elementary is the highest rated new drama. And even though it apparently isn't performing well, Fox ordered 24 more episodes for Mindy Kaling's shows.

Elsewhere, Revolution and New Normal got full seasons from NBC. I feel bad for Animal Practice because even while sounding like a dumb idea, getting replaced by Whitney is tough!

I should add that I'm pleased as Elementary, The Mindy Kaling Project and New Normal are the only new shows I've consistently watched. :D
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 25, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
WTF is Whitney doing still on the air?  :wacko:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 25, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
WTF is Whitney doing still on the air?  :wacko:

Apparently it is currently in crash and burn mode (only appearing again as a "mid"-season replacement) so perhaps it'll finally die off.

I can't remember if I even watched the whole first episode. :blush:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on October 25, 2012, 10:43:13 PM
I did too.  :blush:

Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Different note - I didn't know Chicago Fire was a Dick Wolf show. Now I have to see if worthy of support.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 25, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Different note - I didn't know Chicago Fire was a Dick Wolf show. Now I have to see if worthy of support.

Meh, but the commercials alone were atrocious.  Firefighter groupie pinup porn.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 25, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 25, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Different note - I didn't know Chicago Fire was a Dick Wolf show. Now I have to see if worthy of support.

Meh, but the commercials alone were atrocious.  Firefighter groupie pinup porn.

Doesn't sound like an issue. Meloni was long the draw for SVU.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on October 25, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 25, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Different note - I didn't know Chicago Fire was a Dick Wolf show. Now I have to see if worthy of support.

Meh, but the commercials alone were atrocious.  Firefighter groupie pinup porn.

Doesn't sound like an issue. Meloni was long the draw for SVU.

So Dick seems to have forgotten that he should only attach himself to show that follow his recipe - not getting so involved with the personal lives of the procedural characters.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 26, 2012, 07:44:42 AM
Kind of sad about Last Resort. It was one I wanted to like.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on October 26, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2012, 10:26:34 PM
So current stats have Last Resort headed out the door,
Look here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2172103/
8/10.
I think the entire team went and voted 10/10 for the show :P

I thought this week's episode was noticeably better than the other ones.

Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on October 26, 2012, 10:44:44 AM
It was up against that baseball thing this week though, so that would hurt it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 28, 2012, 04:01:38 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 24, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
My new guilty pleasure: The New Normal  :blush:

Were you actually excited about this week's that said gays should fight for recognition in the Church?

Actually, funnily enough this episode struck some chord I didn't know I still had. So I liked it.

We lapsed Catholics have a complex relationship with the Church.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 28, 2012, 04:06:35 AM
Speaking of which, last episode of AHS was ossum. I always thought that the Mother Church has one bitch of BDSM potential. And I'd fuck Fiennes wearing a cassock.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Martinus on October 28, 2012, 04:09:47 AM
Just checked that Ryan Murphy was raised Catholic. No wonder I like his shows so much. I need to watch Nip/Tuck now.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 28, 2012, 04:18:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2012, 04:09:47 AM
Just checked that Ryan Murphy was raised Catholic. No wonder I like his shows so much. I need to watch Nip/Tuck now.

It's alright, except when it gets sappy or broody. Which is frequent.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on November 07, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
Boardwalk Empire.

Despite the haters, I think I like where this is going.  The different stories are starting to converge, or be eliminated, after splitting up.  It's nice that way :)
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on November 17, 2012, 11:23:07 AM
"Revolution" - still interesting enough for me to watch.

"Last Resort" - too slow/stupid to continue watching.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on November 17, 2012, 12:09:09 PM
Well Last Resort was cancelled yesterday. Though they may air the shows currently filmed.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on November 17, 2012, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: Josephus on November 17, 2012, 12:09:09 PM
Well Last Resort was cancelled yesterday. Though they may air the shows currently filmed.
Last week episode was silly.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Tonitrus on November 17, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
If you're going to take over an island...you kill the local crime lord right from the start.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Ed Anger on November 17, 2012, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: Josephus on November 17, 2012, 12:09:09 PM
Well Last Resort was cancelled yesterday. Though they may air the shows currently filmed.

I knew it.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: garbon on November 17, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
Meanwhile Neighbors stays on the air...:x
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on November 17, 2012, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on November 17, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
If you're going to take over an island...you kill the local crime lord right from the start.
What's stupid is on episode 3, the XO wanted to kill the guy and all his men in retaliation.  Now, he's the one disaproving the execution of a criminal.  Doesn't make sense.  It's also obvious the chick who went in the room with the drug lord is the spy, no one has contact with the exterior, so in order to coordinate an attack with their squad he had to speak with someone.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on January 22, 2013, 12:47:32 AM
So, got to watch the Following.  Very interesting show, excellent acting so far, decent plot.  I have hope for this show :)
Kinda... disturbing, at times, though.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on January 22, 2013, 08:23:06 AM
Yeah...said the same thing in the other thread. (since it's not a fall 2012 show)  ;) It does have potential.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: Josephus on January 22, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
Mind you the cult followers as sleeper agents might be a bit of a thin plot....but what the hell it's TV.
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: merithyn on January 22, 2013, 11:39:39 AM
Downton Abbey's back on.  :bowler:
Title: Re: TV - Fall 2012
Post by: viper37 on January 22, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: Josephus on January 22, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
Mind you the cult followers as sleeper agents might be a bit of a thin plot....but what the hell it's TV.
I think it can turn either way, but there's potential for an interesting story line there.

The conclusion, with Sweet Dreams in the background... that was priceless.