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Title: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 03, 2012, 06:16:29 PM
Michael Clarke Duncan dead at 54

:(
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: viper37 on September 03, 2012, 06:19:17 PM
So young... :(

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/green-mile-actor-michael-clarke-duncan-dead-at-54/article4516837/?cmpid=rss1

Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
Damn, his girlfriend had just saved him from a heart attack within the last couple weeks.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: The Larch on September 03, 2012, 06:29:47 PM
They just showed The Green Mile here on tv tonight, scary coincidence....  :(
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Tonitrus on September 03, 2012, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.

Well, it is based on a Stephen King novel.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
So was Shawshank Redemption.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Neil on September 03, 2012, 07:07:49 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.
What were they going to do?  Bust him out of jail?  Go to the judge and tell him that he had a vision of his innocence?  Hell, this is the US.  If they found out that he was a real magical negro, they'd execute him on general principle.

Also, the lesson you learn is that when you condemn a miracle like that to die, you're cursed with a lengthened lifespan.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.

You're Russian.  You're really not supposed to get empathy. :P
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: dps on September 03, 2012, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.

First off, John Coffey isn't the main character--Paul Edgecomb is.  Second, they didn't have any evidence that they could have used in court, though if the guards had been willing to perjure themselves, they could have claimed that Wild Bill confessed to the killings before Percy went nuts and shot him.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.

You're Russian.  You're really not supposed to get empathy. :P
I get empathy quite well, actually.  It's hard to feign empathy if you don't understand that phenomenon perfectly.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: dps on September 03, 2012, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.

First off, John Coffey isn't the main character--Paul Edgecomb is.  Second, they didn't have any evidence that they could have used in court, though if the guards had been willing to perjure themselves, they could have claimed that Wild Bill confessed to the killings before Percy went nuts and shot him.
The big guy didn't have to have Wild Bill shot, for one, at least not until he was no longer useful.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2012, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
The big guy didn't have to have Wild Bill shot, for one, at least not until he was no longer useful.

He didn't.  Evil has its own way of working itself around.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: merithyn on September 03, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 03, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
I never understood the point of that movie.  Spend the whole time establishing what a good guy the main character is, only to have other good guys execute him in the end, because the main good guy was a little too depressed to fight his sentence.  I kind of missed the moral of the story there.

The guards offered to break him out, but John told them not to. He said that he was tired and it was time for him to go to sleep forever. It was his choice to die, and he made that choice because his "gift" made him miserable. The guards accepted that and allowed John to go to the chair.

It's a Stephen King novel. There doesn't have to be a moral to it, and there usually isn't one.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Siege on September 03, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
No more Mission Impossible movies then.

Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 04, 2012, 01:50:24 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Camerus on September 04, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
I always saw it as an allegory for the crucifixion.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: lustindarkness on September 04, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
:(
He seemed like a great guy, he was in some good movies.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on September 04, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
I always saw it as an allegory for the crucifixion.

An allegory for an allegory? Cosmic.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: garbon on September 04, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on September 04, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
I always saw it as an allegory for the crucifixion.

An allegory for an allegory? Cosmic.

I believe that's called meta.
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 04, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: Siege on September 03, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
No more Mission Impossible movies then.

Does Marcellus Wallace look like a corpse?
Title: Re: DEAD MAN WALKING!
Post by: Camerus on September 04, 2012, 06:37:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 04, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 04, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on September 04, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
I always saw it as an allegory for the crucifixion.

An allegory for an allegory? Cosmic.

I believe that's called meta.

:stoner: :smoke: