OK, I am sure I am the only idiot who did this, but was anyone else confused by the fact that there are actually TWO new MW games in development?
Mechwarrior Online is a first person game, and tactics is a tactical wargame type thing.
I think I was getting confused hearing people talk about how MWO was not at all like World of Tanks in its perspective, but I think now they were actually talking about MWT.
Quote from: Berkut on August 07, 2012, 10:26:06 AM
OK, I am sure I am the only idiot who did this, but was anyone else confused by the fact that there are actually TWO new MW games in development?
Mechwarrior Online is a first person game, and tactics is a tactical wargame type thing.
I think I was getting confused hearing people talk about how MWO was not at all like World of Tanks in its perspective, but I think now they were actually talking about MWT.
Indeed. Every time I have read an article about MWO it has been described as "like WoT but with Mechs".
Don't get me wrong - BattleTech was probably the wargame I played more than any other, but I'd still be more excited about a first person mech game than a tactical one.
Beebs, you should play MWO. It is very fun.
What has changed since the times it was only a Quake Arena with Mechs?
Never played Quake Arena, so no idea...
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2016, 08:44:58 PM
Beebs, you should play MWO. It is very fun.
Noted. Tomorrow I think.
Cool, look me up - same in game name.
Note to Assault Mech drivers:
You really should pay attention to what is going on around you. You might be 100 tons of pure bad assedness, but the 30 ton arctic cheetah that just run up the flank with ECM and came in behind you? Yeah, he can one shot you through your rear torso armor. Then how silly are you going to feel?
:lol: One of the things some friends and I used to do was form a lance of nothing but light mechs. We routinely went around ambushing lone heavies and assaults, shooting their legs out by focus firing. Back when the Spider was overpowered, I always used it for that purpose. I wonder if it would work as hilariously well as it did back then.
Anyone of you guys involved in community warfare?
I have not messed with that part yet. I hear very mixed opinions on it. Lots of negativity, but a friend of mine says it is pretty fun...
Most people shun CW, since it has a high learning curve and can be very frustrating for new players, as it demands disciplined teamplay. But in a group (with VOIP or TS) it can be great fun.
It's generally better to dabble in regular matches first, if only to get yourself a nice selection of fully upgraded mechs from all weight classes.
In CW you field a drop deck of 4 mechs, and you really want the ability to change your deck according to the map you fight on. And you really do not want to use trial mechs in CW.
So I started playing again a bit over a week ago. I read some guides, and the first guide to read to a free to play game is always "How do you make money".
Said guide recommended getting a Hero mech for the C-Bill bonus, so I went ahead and bought the Stalker masetery pack, which game me two Assault Stalkers, and the Stalker Misery Hero mech.
The Misery is awesome. 2 PPCs, and an AC20, all mounted on the left side. So you can just peek that side around something, and blast away, then sneak back into cover.
I also picked up the Artic Cheetah, since I had 4000 MC from somewhere, and that little bastard is wicked fun, or a very short match, depending on whether I guess well or not.
Last night I broke down and bought the Warhammer mastery pack - 4 Warhammer variants. I loved the Warhammer so much, but it seems like PPCs are not really favored. And arm mounted PPCs even more so, since you have to expose so much to fire them. But still a lot of fun to play. Funny how the "canonical" mech configurations just really don't work. The standard Warhammer with:
2 PPCs
2 Med Laser
2 Small Laser
2 Machine Guns
SRM6
Simple isn't workable - trying to manage all those weapons that have radically different ranges and cool downs is nearly impossible.
I had similar problems with the Marauder, another iconic machine that originally relied on PPCs in low arm mounts. But only one oft the 3 variants even has PPC velocity quirks. In the end I gave in and went with multiple AC5s supported by MLs, which pretty much doubled my average damage output per match.
My Blackjack BJ-3 on the other hand works great with dual PPCs. Those high arms really change everything. If you are looking for a cheap yet highly effective entry into IS medium mechs, get youself some BJs.
MI, what is your in-game name?
I run as Malikada.
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2016, 10:44:28 PM
Never played Quake Arena, so no idea...
When it was Mechs pew-pewing each other on the same eight random maps, with no consequence.
Hmmm, well I don't know if there arent any consequences. The winner get XP and CBills, and the losers get less I suppose.
So, I want to start a game with a trial mech, to earn credits and buy my own mech after training, and I have to wait 20 minutes in queue for this?? How weird...
got it. definately gonna need more practice.
Got killed in 5 minutes or so. My team lost :(
When getting started, I highly recommend you take it slow, try to pick around the edges. Do not get overly aggressive, especially in the trial mechs, as they tend to be very poorly optimized (though not always--some of them are good). Generally speaking, try to play support early on rather than lone-gunning it. If you see an enemy being targeted by an ally, nail him.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 14, 2016, 09:51:11 PM
When getting started, I highly recommend you take it slow, try to pick around the edges. Do not get overly aggressive, especially in the trial mechs, as they tend to be very poorly optimized (though not always--some of them are good). Generally speaking, try to play support early on rather than lone-gunning it. If you see an enemy being targeted by an ally, nail him.
that's more or less what I was trying to do. I haven't played a MW game since... #3, I think. The Mercenaries one.
I went ahead with a medium one, but everyone is flying around with jump jets, making it difficult to follow. So, I found myself isolated, trying to use cover, take shots, hide, but I stumble on something, got stuck on a mountain, got surrounded by 3 ennemy mechs, and voilà, no more Viper :(
I'm having trouble with the controls and the targetting, so I'm going back to the academy for now.
Btw, do you need to buy a mech with real money or you can you use in game credits? I can't seem to find out how to do it.
THere is a Store tab across the top of the screen - that is where you can buy mechs in game.
Quote from: Berkut on March 14, 2016, 11:49:36 PM
THere is a Store tab across the top of the screen - that is where you can buy mechs in game.
it directs me to a web site where I am supposed to buy packs with real money.
No, when you click on it, you will get another set of tabs down the left side. One of them will say "Battlemechs" and you can buy mechs in game with in game credits there.
ah. Will look at that tonight, thanks :)
If anyone is interested in playing, this is a great resource to start understanding how the game works beyond "Drive around, shoot things!"
http://metamechs.com/
So that site I linked has a bunch of guides on the various mechs, and I was reading the one on the Arctic Cheetah.
It has a build that is basically ECM and 2 Clan ER-Large Lasers. 30 ton mech, runs at 130kph, and has a pair of 11 firepower 800m range large lasers mounted high on the torso.
So basically you run around sniping shit.
The guide was kind of funny - it basically says "This is interesting, but of limited actual use since in most cases you cannot get off enough shots to do real amounts of damage".
I've been fucking wrecking shit with this build. My first match ever in it I did 800+ damage, which was more than any match I've ever done. I think it is pretty much broken.
The ECM means the enemy won't be able to lock you up, and the mech is freaking tiny anyway, so they never see me until I fire. I can reliably get two shots off before my target turns to fire back, and by that time I am gone.
I just skirt the outskirts of the fight and pick away. The only thing I have to worry about is another light mech with my own speed and short ranged weapons. Anything else I run into I can run away from.
Well, there is a reason that chassis is often called "Arctic Cheater". ;) It's currently easily the best light mech in the game, even after it has been nerfed a while ago. I never bothered to buy one myself though, since I mostly do CW for an Inner Sphere house, so I can't use clan tech in my drop deck.
Metamechs is primarily directed at community warfare, where - if in a competent team - solo sniping is rarely an option. CW done right is more about powerful and decisive action.
I would really like to try CW, but I don't really understand how to get "in" on it.
Online games as a rule suck.
Though I absolutely adored the first person Gundam game on the dreamcast. Something like that would be great.
So....it feels suitably clunky and pilotty or rather more like a normal fps?
Oh not at all like a normal fps. Very much clunky.Takes some getting used to, in fact.