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Title: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCTn4FljUQ

Lots of amusing aspects to the clip:
--the rotary phones and old computers
--that the guy being interviewed dressed up in a suit
--that the local newspapers were "investing a lot of money" to send the newspapers for free, without ads
--the newspapers had no interest in making money on the project
--the prediction that the day would come that all newspapers and magazines would come by computer
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: sbr on May 10, 2009, 11:59:15 AM
2-3000 home computer owners in the Bay Area?  :lol:
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 12:00:25 PM
Hehe. I especially love the last comment from the journalist how this is not going to fly, because it takes 2 hours to get an entire edition via phone line.

Still, it's even more amazing if you consider countries like Poland - I mean in 1981, noone dreamed of even having a home computer, not to mention an internet connection. Now we are not far behind the US (the only thing that keeps us behind is lack of good landline infrastructure so the cable internet is not as fast as it could be).
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 10, 2009, 11:59:15 AM
2-3000 home computer owners in the Bay Area?  :lol:
I love how the guy being interviewed has "Home Computer Owner" next to his name.  :lol:
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 10, 2009, 11:59:15 AM
2-3000 home computer owners in the Bay Area?  :lol:
I love how the guy being interviewed has "Home Computer Owner" next to his name.  :lol:

:D good catch, I missed that.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 12:04:40 PM
Anyway, I think it is amazing that during our lifetimes there has been a paradigm shift/revolution that easily rivals those started by the invention of the movable type or the steam engine. I don't think we appreciate it enough.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 12:04:40 PM
Anyway, I think it is amazing that during our lifetimes there has been a paradigm shift/revolution that easily rivals those started by the invention of the movable type or the steam engine. I don't think we appreciate it enough.

The pace of the paradigm shifts is moving incredibly fast. Think of all the major inventions that you can't imagine life without: electricity, the car, the telephone, televison/radio. The internet is hard to imagine life without, and it just got here in a big way 10-15 years ago.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:41:45 PM
I raise 1969 internet shopping and webcams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pPfyYtiBc&feature=related
:P

Earlier on Discovery had one of those "technology of tomorrow" kind of shows. Makes you wonder what, in 20 years, will be way off, what will be spot on, and what will have been underestimated.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: sbr on May 10, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:41:45 PM
I raise 1969 internet shopping and webcams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pPfyYtiBc&feature=related
:P

Earlier on Discovery had one of those "technology of tomorrow" kind of shows. Makes you wonder what, in 20 years, will be way off, what will be spot on, and what will have been underestimated.
(:40)" What the wife selects at her console will be paid for by the husband on his counterpart console."

:mad:

Make her buy her own shit.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 10, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
(:40)" What the wife selects at her console will be paid for by the husband on his counterpart console."

Yeah, that bit was great. :lol:
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:41:45 PM
I raise 1969 internet shopping and webcams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pPfyYtiBc&feature=related
:P

Earlier on Discovery had one of those "technology of tomorrow" kind of shows. Makes you wonder what, in 20 years, will be way off, what will be spot on, and what will have been underestimated.

I guess they were so busy predicting the internet revolution 30 years away that they missed the sexual revolution going on right then. :D
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Josquius on May 10, 2009, 12:52:33 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:41:45 PM
I raise 1969 internet shopping and webcams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pPfyYtiBc&feature=related
:P

Earlier on Discovery had one of those "technology of tomorrow" kind of shows. Makes you wonder what, in 20 years, will be way off, what will be spot on, and what will have been underestimated.

Seen it before, good stuff. Both of them. Damn woman looking at warez.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: garbon on May 10, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
What's up with people posting all this news about SF? No one cares about that. :P
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Razgovory on May 10, 2009, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 12:00:25 PM


Still, it's even more amazing if you consider countries like Poland - I mean in 1981, noone dreamed of even having a home computer, not to mention an internet connection. Now we are not far behind the US (the only thing that keeps us behind is lack of good landline infrastructure so the cable internet is not as fast as it could be).

People in Poland were dreaming of a day they could buy sausage without standing in a line for 6 hours.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Grey Fox on May 10, 2009, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 10, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 10, 2009, 12:41:45 PM
I raise 1969 internet shopping and webcams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0pPfyYtiBc&feature=related
:P

Earlier on Discovery had one of those "technology of tomorrow" kind of shows. Makes you wonder what, in 20 years, will be way off, what will be spot on, and what will have been underestimated.
(:40)" What the wife selects at her console will be paid for by the husband on his counterpart console."

:mad:

Make her buy her own shit.

It's 1969, she ain't got no money!

Those were the times.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: DGuller on May 10, 2009, 05:04:38 PM
 :lol: People were so stupid back then.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
Lots of amusing aspects to the clip:
--the rotary phones

You got a problem with rotary phones, asshole?
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 10, 2009, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 10, 2009, 05:04:38 PM
:lol: People were so stupid back then.
:huh: I think it's quite forward thinking given the state of available technology at the time.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
Lots of amusing aspects to the clip:
--the rotary phones

You got a problem with rotary phones, asshole?

You tell 'em. Things were better when phones were in the house and every asshole didn't have a cell phone to their ear.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
Also, I miss CompuServe.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2009, 06:29:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
Lots of amusing aspects to the clip:
--the rotary phones

You got a problem with rotary phones, asshole?

You tell 'em. Things were better when phones were in the house and every asshole didn't have a cell phone to their ear.

I have rotary phones, because when I get a phone call, I want to fucking hear it ring.
And, I like having phone service if the power goes out.

You faggots and your cordless phones and their electronic ringers can all fuck off.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 10, 2009, 06:29:57 PM


I have rotary phones, because when I get a phone call, I want to fucking hear it ring.
And, I like having phone service if the power goes out.

You faggots and your cordless phones and their electronic ringers can all fuck off.

You could get a cell phone with a rotary phone ringtone.

http://www.voeveo.com/audio/ringtone/88054

Or I can just fuck off.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: saskganesh on May 10, 2009, 07:17:43 PM
a lot of the internet is really just a faster, easier, universal radio. so was/is TV.  based on how many people use it, I think the paradigm shift is still just getting started.

it's nice to live in a global village,  but when this village turns out to be a village full of village idiots, you have to wonder about the usefulness of the technology and how people have to change in order to actually use it to its transformative potential.

I think its going to take a few generations for people to catch up to the technology we are able to create. after a hundred plus years after Bell/Marconi, we still have to deal with too many pointless phone calls. we might be able to communicate more, but we don't necessarily understand each other better.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: PDH on May 10, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
Every village is filled with idiots who don't understand.  It is the nature of human interaction.  The one positive isn't better communication or understanding, it is that sometime a set of mores and codes of behavior might, just might, emerge from this whole mess of idiots talking rather than just the idiots in this valley talking together and ignoring the idiots in next valley.

Probably not going to happen, though.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: alfred russel on May 10, 2009, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 10, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
Every village is filled with idiots who don't understand.  It is the nature of human interaction.  The one positive isn't better communication or understanding, it is that sometime a set of mores and codes of behavior might, just might, emerge from this whole mess of idiots talking rather than just the idiots in this valley talking together and ignoring the idiots in next valley.

Probably not going to happen, though.

Sure this is just a village of idiots, but imagine how much more stupid the village was 200 years ago. Sure people like Lettow are still around, but at least we recognize that people like Lettow are stupid, rather than electing them to the Senate and lynching black people.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Razgovory on May 10, 2009, 08:54:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 06:00:14 PM


You tell 'em. Things were better when phones were in the house and every asshole didn't have a cell phone to their ear.

I'm deeply bothered that as I grow older the more I agree with you.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Syt on May 10, 2009, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
Also, I miss CompuServe.

They were my first ISP :wub: Shortly afterwards I had a provider where I could dial in at local, not mid-distance rates.

Obviously, this was before broadband. Or before phone companies offered flat rates for phoning from land line to land line.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Ed Anger on May 11, 2009, 06:59:29 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 10, 2009, 08:54:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 06:00:14 PM


You tell 'em. Things were better when phones were in the house and every asshole didn't have a cell phone to their ear.

I'm deeply bothered that as I grow older the more I agree with you.

Once you turn 30, young people will start bothering you.

Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Razgovory on May 11, 2009, 07:03:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 11, 2009, 06:59:29 AM


Once you turn 30, young people will start bothering you.

I do not look forward to this. :(
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: Ed Anger on May 11, 2009, 07:09:06 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 11, 2009, 07:03:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 11, 2009, 06:59:29 AM


Once you turn 30, young people will start bothering you.

I do not look forward to this. :(

It is actually fun. I give the punks utter looks of hatred, and warm myself at night with my hate.

Because in the end, I'm better than them, and always will be.
Title: Re: 1981 News Report on Receiving Newspapers through the Internet
Post by: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 08:54:42 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBcrTucxiRc

The full episode is a hoot.