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Title: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Syt on May 09, 2009, 07:08:00 AM
Currently reading World War Z which got me thinking - zombie apocalypse usually takes place, more or less, in the here and now.

But what about other points in history?

Three moments could be especially interesting:

Spanish Flu 1918. Most of the world is in shambles or focused on winning the war. The spanish Flu, combined with chemical agents, mutates into a zombie virus, striking first the trenches, then the hinterlands.

The Black Death, 1340s. Instead of the "normal" Black Death the dead return and start preying on the living. Europe, Middle East and Asia fall into a new dark age while the American cultures are left "unblemished" for now.

Barbarian invasions, 395+ AD. The Barbarians are on the move to flee the spread of the zombie plague and bring it to the Roman Empire.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: The Brain on May 09, 2009, 07:16:33 AM
1918 could be cool. Zombie WW1 is cooler than all that Zombie Nazis crap.

1492 - Euros discover the New World. Only the New World has been zombified. As our intrepid conquistadors penetrate into the ghost cities and collect gold objects lying around something stirs in the shadows...

1840s America - Abolitionists suddenly face a new question: should the Zombies be freed as well?

1630s Germany - Protestantism is saved by the unstoppable armies of Gustavus Adolphus. Or make that shambling hordes... 
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Syt on May 09, 2009, 07:22:49 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 09, 2009, 07:16:33 AM
1492 - Euros discover the New World. Only the New World has been zombified. As our intrepid conquistadors penetrate into the ghost cities and collect gold objects lying around something stirs in the shadows...

... and bring the taint back home. :shifty:
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Josquius on May 09, 2009, 07:48:16 AM
The only way I could ever see a zombie apocolypse working is in combination with a 'proper' disease. 1918 would indeed be good.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Strix on May 09, 2009, 07:58:06 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 09, 2009, 07:48:16 AM
The only way I could ever see a zombie apocolypse working is in combination with a 'proper' disease. 1918 would indeed be good.

The New World scenario would work with the 'proper' disease being small pox. The premise being that something about how the small pox effects the natives causes them to die and change into zombies. It would allow the writers to have that better technology, advanced civilization, and greed results in 'paradise lost' sort of vibe.



Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 09, 2009, 08:19:18 AM
The most likely zombie scenario would have been if Jesus had been contagious.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Strix on May 09, 2009, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 09, 2009, 08:19:18 AM
The most likely zombie scenario would have been if Jesus had been contagious.

Or Martin Luther!
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: The Brain on May 09, 2009, 08:38:24 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.

-Are all men from the future loud-mouthed braggarts?

-Nope. Just me, baby. Just me.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 09, 2009, 08:38:24 AM



-Are all men from the future loud-mouthed braggarts?

-Nope. Just me, baby. Just me.

:D
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Syt on May 09, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.

But the cities and countryside would still be ravaged.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 09, 2009, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.

But the cities and countryside would still be ravaged.
Wouldn't it be difficult for the zombies to infect armored knights?
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Razgovory on May 09, 2009, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 07:08:00 AM
Currently reading World War Z which got me thinking - zombie apocalypse usually takes place, more or less, in the here and now.

You need to think of other stuff.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: lustindarkness on May 09, 2009, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 07:08:00 AM
Currently reading World War Z which got me thinking - zombie apocalypse usually takes place, more or less, in the here and now.

Cool book, I'll combine it with The Ten Thousand I finished yesterday. When Xenophon and Tisaphernes(sp) both have a new enemy right after the battle of Cunaxa when all the dead from both sides stand up. Or maybe wait for the greeks to reach the mountain zombie/kurds.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.

But the cities and countryside would still be ravaged.

The majority of the cities in the middle ages had castles (were inside of castles) and I don't think you would have enough people in the countryside to make a big enough horde to destroy Europe, or anything like that.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Josquius on May 09, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
And many villages had sturdy chuches which somewhat doubled as hard points.
Standard zombies who only spread through directly infecting others are shit though. The only technology you need to beat them is a ladder.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Syt on May 09, 2009, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.

But the cities and countryside would still be ravaged.

The majority of the cities in the middle ages had castles (were inside of castles) and I don't think you would have enough people in the countryside to make a big enough horde to destroy Europe, or anything like that.

But the black death still ravaged cities and landscapes - the virus/infection would be like black death, but with longer incubation and communicability. Only when people die - they don't.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Iormlund on May 09, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 09, 2009, 09:17:44 AM
Wouldn't it be difficult for the zombies to infect armored knights?

Funny, the two games I play most nowadays are L4D and M&B. Wonder what a mix of the two be like.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 09, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 09, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 09, 2009, 09:17:44 AM
Wouldn't it be difficult for the zombies to infect armored knights?

Funny, the two games I play most nowadays are L4D and M&B. Wonder what a mix of the two be like.

To the Modmobile!
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 09, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 09, 2009, 09:17:44 AM
Wouldn't it be difficult for the zombies to infect armored knights?

Funny, the two games I play most nowadays are L4D and M&B. Wonder what a mix of the two be like.

I want to add zombies to the classic C-64 game Farmer's Daughter.
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 09, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on May 09, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I think that a zombie invation in the middle ages would not be very cool, because we had Castles. And you would just need to close the doors and fire some arrows.

But the cities and countryside would still be ravaged.

The majority of the cities in the middle ages had castles (were inside of castles) and I don't think you would have enough people in the countryside to make a big enough horde to destroy Europe, or anything like that.

But the black death still ravaged cities and landscapes - the virus/infection would be like black death, but with longer incubation and communicability. Only when people die - they don't.

If the infection is airborne, (or lise (pl. louse)) there is an other story
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Tonitrus on May 10, 2009, 12:32:28 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 09, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 09, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 09, 2009, 09:17:44 AM
Wouldn't it be difficult for the zombies to infect armored knights?

Funny, the two games I play most nowadays are L4D and M&B. Wonder what a mix of the two be like.

To the Modmobile!

Meh, probably the closest thing, and a tad buggy.

http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,55635.0.html
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Siege on May 10, 2009, 12:53:23 AM
You guys are stupid.

There is no such a thing as zombies.

Now, a zombie Mohamed...
Title: Re: Alternative Zombie Apocalypse Scenarios
Post by: Siege on May 10, 2009, 12:53:53 AM
Oh wait, it did happen!