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Title: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2012, 04:28:54 AM
Just another leftwing ideologue, ain't he Hans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/exxon-ceo-fossil-fuels-will-warm-planet-but-humans-can-adapt-drilling-risks-are-overstated/2012/06/27/gJQAFm826V_story.html
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By Associated Press, Published: June 28

NEW YORK — ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson says fears about climate change, drilling, and energy dependence are overblown.

In a speech Wednesday, Tillerson acknowledged that burning of fossil fuels is warming the planet, but said society will be able to adapt. The risks of oil and gas drilling are well understood and can be mitigated, he said. And dependence on other nations for oil is not a concern as long as access to supply is certain, he said.

Tillerson blamed a public that is "illiterate" in science and math, a "lazy" press, and advocacy groups that "manufacture fear" for energy misconceptions in a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations.

He highlighted that huge discoveries of oil and gas in North America have reversed a 20-year decline in U.S. oil production in recent years. He also trumpeted the global oil industry's ability to deliver fuels during a two-year period of dramatic uncertainty in the Middle East, the world's most important oil and gas-producing region.

"No one, anywhere, any place in the world has not been able to get crude oil to fuel their economies," he said.

In his speech and during a question-and-answer session after, he addressed three major energy issues: Climate change, oil and gas drilling pollution, and energy dependence.

CLIMATE CHANGE

Tillerson, in a break with predecessor Lee Raymond, has acknowledged that global temperatures are rising. "Clearly there is going to be an impact," he said Wednesday.

But he questioned the ability of climate models to predict the magnitude of the impact. He said that people would be able to adapt to rising sea levels and changing climates that may force agricultural production to shift.

"We have spent our entire existence adapting. We'll adapt," he said. "It's an engineering problem and there will be an engineering solution."

Andrew Weaver, chairman of climate modeling and analysis at the University of Victoria in Canada, disagreed with Tillerson's characterization of climate modeling. He said modeling can give a very good sense of the type of climate changes that are likely. And he said adapting to those changes will be much more difficult and disruptive than Tillerson seems to be acknowledging.

Steve Coll, author of the recent book "Private Empire: ExxonMobil and American Power," said he was surprised Exxon would already be talking about ways society could adapt to climate change when there is still time to try to avoid its worst effects. Also, he said, research suggests that adapting to climate change could be far more expensive than reducing emissions now. "Moving entire cities would be very expensive," he said.

Legislation or regulation that would help slow the emissions of global warming gases would likely lead to lower demand for oil and gasoline, and could reduce Exxon's profit.

DRILLING

Tillerson expressed frustration at the level of public concern over new drilling techniques that tap natural gas and oil in shale formations under several states. He said environmental advocacy groups that "manufacture fear" have alarmed a public that doesn't understand drilling practices — or math, science or engineering in general. He blamed "lazy" journalists for producing stories that scare the public but don't investigate the claims of advocacy groups.

Drilling for oil and gas will always involve risks of spills and accidents, he said. But those risks are manageable and worth taking because they are small given the amount of energy they produce.

Drilling in shale formations, he said, only poses a small risk to those living nearby. It is neither life threatening nor long lasting and can be controlled in the event of an accident.

Drillers force millions of gallons of water mixed with sand and some hazardous chemicals into shale formations. The technique breaks up rock and creates escape routes for oil and gas. If the drilling wastewater is not treated properly or if it seeps through cracked drilling pipes, it could contaminate drinking water.

The industry's biggest challenge, he said, is "taking an illiterate public and try to help them understand why we can manage these risks."

ENERGY SECURITY

Tillerson made a distinction between energy security and energy dependence. He said that energy security — making sure that the economy has access to energy — is crucial.

But he said access to energy is not in peril. "Some of the fears around energy security are not well founded," he said.

The quest for energy independence, though, is misguided, he said. It doesn't matter where the U.S. gets oil because crude is priced globally. Even if the U.S. used only oil from North America, a disruption in the Middle East would increase global prices, hurt the U.S. and global economies, and force Americans to pay more at the pump.

Even if the U.S. no longer needed Middle Eastern oil, it would likely want to play a major role in helping maintain the region's security, Tillerson said.

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Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Ideologue on July 01, 2012, 05:37:46 AM
QuoteHumanity Should Just Man Up

Gay.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: The Brain on July 01, 2012, 05:41:53 AM
Is energy insecurity like food insecurity? oh no i can't get my favorite condiment
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: 11B4V on July 01, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
What a billionaire twat.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Why is it you think rich people cannot be leftwing?
Ever heard of George Soros?

Liberal thought is the product of a rich intelectual elite.
It doesn't come from the poor.
Karl Marx was supported by millionaire Frederick Engels.
It is the scions of rich families who created and maintain the left.

Poor people in the left are either brainwashed by the left controlled education system or bought with welfare handouts.

Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Fate on July 01, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Why is it you think rich people cannot be leftwing?
Ever heard of George Soros?

Liberal thought is the product of a rich intelectual elite.
It doesn't come from the poor.
Karl Marx was supported by millionaire Frederick Engels.
It is the scions of rich families who created and maintain the left.

Poor people in the left are either brainwashed by the left controlled education system or bought with welfare handouts.

You're a fucking moron. ExxonMobil's leadership is exceedingly right wing in their politics. Only a few years ago the company was funding global warming denialist outfits.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Neil on July 01, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Why is it you think rich people cannot be leftwing?
Ever heard of George Soros?

Liberal thought is the product of a rich intelectual elite.
It doesn't come from the poor.
Karl Marx was supported by millionaire Frederick Engels.
It is the scions of rich families who created and maintain the left.

Poor people in the left are either brainwashed by the left controlled education system or bought with welfare handouts.
Have you ever heard of trade unionism?
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Siege on July 01, 2012, 01:30:34 PM
Quote from: Fate on July 01, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Why is it you think rich people cannot be leftwing?
Ever heard of George Soros?

Liberal thought is the product of a rich intelectual elite.
It doesn't come from the poor.
Karl Marx was supported by millionaire Frederick Engels.
It is the scions of rich families who created and maintain the left.

Poor people in the left are either brainwashed by the left controlled education system or bought with welfare handouts.

You're a fucking moron.

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Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Razgovory on July 01, 2012, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Why is it you think rich people cannot be leftwing?
Ever heard of George Soros?

Liberal thought is the product of a rich intelectual elite.
It doesn't come from the poor.
Karl Marx was supported by millionaire Frederick Engels.
It is the scions of rich families who created and maintain the left.

Poor people in the left are either brainwashed by the left controlled education system or bought with welfare handouts.

:lmfao:  Now you are spouting anti-semitic conspiracy theories?  Oh dear.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Siege on July 01, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
How is this antisemite?

Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Razgovory on July 01, 2012, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
How is this antisemite?

George Soros is last of a long line of evil Jewish financiers who control the world.  He's hated by all the usual suspects, Russia, Iran, etc, but also strangely by the GOP (perhaps a throw back to a older era when Groucho Marx couldn't join the Country Club).  In the old days it was The Rothchilds who were secretly financing evil leftists and communists (which was of course a Jewish Plot), to overthrow christian civilization.  Today it's George Soros.  Good lord, Siege!  You are towing the party line of Iran now!
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 01, 2012, 06:10:19 PM
People who hate George Soros are only anti-semites if they hate him because he's Jewish, Raz.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: The Brain on July 01, 2012, 06:20:17 PM
Is there another reason to hate him?
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Razgovory on July 01, 2012, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 01, 2012, 06:10:19 PM
People who hate George Soros are only anti-semites if they hate him because he's Jewish, Raz.

Judge a man by his enemies.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Ed Anger on July 01, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I hate everybody.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 01, 2012, 06:58:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I hate everybody.

So does Exxon-Mobil.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Valmy on July 01, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Of course anybody who says anything Siege doesn't agree with is a left wing ideologue to him.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Valmy on July 01, 2012, 08:46:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I hate everybody.

That is what makes you the most evolved form of Languishite.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Capetan Mihali on July 01, 2012, 08:48:00 PM
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Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Ed Anger on July 01, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2012, 08:46:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I hate everybody.

That is what makes you the most evolved form of Languishite.

Damn right.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: PDH on July 01, 2012, 09:21:27 PM
I would hate everybody but that is too much effort.  Instead I hate kids in my yard.

The bastards.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Ideologue on July 02, 2012, 01:00:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Of course anybody who says anything Siege doesn't agree with is a left wing ideologue to him.

Am I?
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: Razgovory on July 02, 2012, 01:16:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: Siege on July 01, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
He went to college, so yeah, another liberal leftwing ideologe, Timmay.

Of course anybody who says anything Siege doesn't agree with is a left wing ideologue to him.

The US army has corrupted him.
Title: Re: Exxon CEO - Global Warming Real, Humanity Should Just Man Up & Adapt
Post by: The Minsky Moment on July 03, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2012, 04:28:54 AM
Just another leftwing ideologue, ain't he Hans.

No he's a CEO of an energy company that has made enormous investments in gas exploration and production.
That means he has an interest in promoting a regulatory and tax regime that treates gas more favorably than coal.  And that means he has an interest in promoting the view that global warming is an issue that should be addressed (which would imply support for cleaner burning natural gas vs. coal) but not in such a strong way as to require a carbon tax or serious action to reduce usage of all fossil views.  Which by very happy coincidence is exactly the view he is promoting.