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Title: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: mongers on June 27, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
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Minitel: The rise and fall of the France-wide web

By Hugh Schofield
BBC News, Paris

28 June 2012 Last updated at 00:36

France is switching off its groundbreaking Minitel service which brought online banking, travel reservations, and porn to millions of users in the 1980s. But then came the worldwide web. Minitel has been dying slowly and the plug will be pulled on Saturday.

Many years ago, long before the birth of the web, there was a time when France was the happening-est place in the digital universe.

What the TGV was to train travel, the Pompidou Centre to art, and the Ariane project to rocketry, in the early 1980s the Minitel was to the world of telecommunications.

Thanks to this wondrous beige monitor attached to the telephone, while the rest of us were being put on hold by the bank manager or queueing for tickets at the station, the French were already shopping and travelling "online".

Other countries looked on in awe and admiration, and the French were proud.

As President Jacques Chirac boasted: "Today a baker in Aubervilliers knows perfectly how to check his bank account on the Minitel. Can the same be said of the baker in New York?"

Chirac was speaking in 1997, exactly half way through the life-cycle of France's greatest telecoms innovation.

At the time, he could be forgiven thinking it would last forever. This was the high point, with nine million Minitel sets installed in households around the country, an estimated 25 million users, and 26,000 services on offer.

But of course, the story was already written. The internet was moving in.
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Rest of article here:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18610692 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18610692)
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2012, 08:49:59 PM
I saw a Minitel in a post office in France, and it didn't seem like it had any graphics capability at all.  Not sure how porn would work on it.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Maximus on June 27, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
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Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2012, 09:19:13 PM
Can't say the French didn't get their moneys' worth out of that workhorse over the years.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Habbaku on June 27, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 27, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
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As President Jacques Chirac boasted: "Today a baker in Aubervilliers knows perfectly how to check his bank account on the Minitel. Can the same be said of the baker in New York?"

No, I'm guessing that a baker in New York probably doesn't know how to use an obscure device in France.  :hmm:
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 27, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 27, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
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As President Jacques Chirac boasted: "Today a baker in Aubervilliers knows perfectly how to check his bank account on the Minitel. Can the same be said of the baker in New York?"

No, I'm guessing that a baker in New York probably doesn't know how to use an obscure device in France.  :hmm:

See, that's why we can never have anything nice and French around here.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Valmy on June 27, 2012, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2012, 08:49:59 PM
I saw a Minitel in a post office in France, and it didn't seem like it had any graphics capability at all.  Not sure how porn would work on it.

Well it was the 1980s.  I am sort of shocked it was still around frankly.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Syt on June 27, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
Germany's similar service, Datex-P, has been running since the late 80s and is scheduled to continue into 2013 or 2018.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 28, 2012, 05:44:12 PM
I have not used a minitel in at least 10 years. One had to use it to enroll at university for instance.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: mongers on June 28, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 28, 2012, 05:44:12 PM
I have not used a minitel in at least 10 years. One had to use it to enroll at university for instance.

:cool:

As far as I remember, we had to queue up in a ill-lit corridor for a couple of hours, wasn't it call matriculation ?
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Ed Anger on June 28, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: Maximus on June 27, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
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I want to log onto a BBS now.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: garbon on June 28, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 27, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 27, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 27, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
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As President Jacques Chirac boasted: "Today a baker in Aubervilliers knows perfectly how to check his bank account on the Minitel. Can the same be said of the baker in New York?"

No, I'm guessing that a baker in New York probably doesn't know how to use an obscure device in France.  :hmm:

See, that's why we can never have anything nice and French around here.

I think we could still have some nice French men.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: katmai on June 28, 2012, 07:55:02 PM
Yet we get stuck with Zoupa
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Valmy on June 28, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Zoupa is dreamy :wub:
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Zoupa is dreamy :wub:

Zoupa's OK, except when he gets all "Dances With Little Drummer Girl" on us.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 29, 2012, 04:33:12 AM
Quote from: mongers on June 28, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 28, 2012, 05:44:12 PM
I have not used a minitel in at least 10 years. One had to use it to enroll at university for instance.

:cool:

As far as I remember, we had to queue up in a ill-lit corridor for a couple of hours, wasn't it call matriculation ?

It was pre-matriculation actually, some kind of screening (sic), specially for the most sought out universities.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: szmik on June 29, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
if it's comparable to TGV it must be shit  :D
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 29, 2012, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 28, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
I think we could still have some nice French men.

If they're nice, rather than prickly cynics, are they really French?
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: garbon on June 29, 2012, 12:30:49 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 29, 2012, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 28, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
I think we could still have some nice French men.

If they're nice, rather than prickly cynics, are they really French?

I think it depends on one's frame of reference. -_-
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2012, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: szmik on June 29, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
if it's comparable to TGV it must be shit  :D

What's wrong with the TGV? :uncertain:
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Razgovory on June 29, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Zoupa is dreamy :wub:

Zoupa's OK, except when he gets all "Dances With Little Drummer Girl" on us.

He seems a stand up guy.
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: szmik on July 01, 2012, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2012, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: szmik on June 29, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
if it's comparable to TGV it must be shit  :D

What's wrong with the TGV? :uncertain:

overrated much
Title: Re: France To Turn Off Its Proto-Internet, After 30 Years.
Post by: Ideologue on July 01, 2012, 10:49:57 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 28, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
Zoupa is dreamy :wub:

Zoupa's OK, except when he gets all "Dances With Little Drummer Girl" on us.

I don't know what that means, but I approve of the tone.