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Title: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 19, 2012, 01:25:07 AM
Burn the Heretic! Kill the Mutant! Purge the Unclean!


http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-humans-with-super-human-vision/ (http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-humans-with-super-human-vision/)

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The Humans With Super Human Vision

An unknown number of women may perceive 
millions of colors invisible to the rest of us. One British scientist is trying to track them down and understand their extraordinary power of sight.
by Veronique Greenwood

From the July-August special issue; published online June 18, 2012

An average human, utterly unremarkable in every way, can 
perceive a million different colors. Vermilion, puce, cerulean, periwinkle, chartreuse—we have thousands of words for them, but mere language can never capture our extraordinary range of hues. Our powers of color vision derive from cells in our eyes called cones, three types in all, each triggered by different wavelengths of light. Every moment our eyes are open, those three flavors of cone fire off messages to the brain. The brain then combines the signals to produce the sensation we call color.

Vision is complex, but the calculus of color is strangely simple: Each cone confers the ability to distinguish around a hundred shades, so the total number of combinations is at least 1003, or a million. Take one cone away—go from being what scientists call a trichromat to a dichromat—and the number of possible combinations drops a factor of 100, to 10,000. Almost all other mammals, including dogs and New World monkeys, are dichromats. The richness of the world we see is rivaled only by that of birds and some insects, which also perceive the ultraviolet part of the spectrum.

Researchers suspect, though, that some people see even more. Living among us are people with four cones, who might experience a range of colors invisible to the rest. It's possible these so-called tetrachromats see a hundred million colors, with each familiar hue fracturing into a hundred more subtle shades for which there are no names, no paint swatches. And because perceiving color is a personal experience, they would have no way of knowing they see far beyond what we consider the limits of human vision.

Over the course of two decades, Newcastle University neuroscientist Gabriele Jordan and her colleagues have been searching for people endowed with this super-vision. Two years ago, Jordan finally found one. A doctor living in northern England, referred to only as cDa29 in the literature, is the first tetrachromat known to science. She is almost surely not the last.

The first hint that tetrachromats might exist came in a 1948 paper on color blindness. Dutch scientist HL de Vries was studying the eyes of color-blind men, who, along with two normal cones, possess a mutant cone that is less sensitive to either green or red, making it difficult for them to distinguish the two colors. He tested their vision by having them perform a basic matching task. Twiddling the dials on a lab instrument back and forth, the men had to mix red and green light so that the result, to their eyes, matched a standard shade of yellow. To compensate for their difficulty in discerning hues, color-blind men need to add more green or red than normal trichromats to make a match.

Out of curiosity, De Vries tested the daughters of one subject and observed that even though they were not color-blind—they seemed to distinguish red and green as well as anyone—they needed more red in their test light than normal people to make the match precise. If the women weren't color-blind, what was going on?

Pondering the situation, De Vries thought he saw an explanation. Color blindness ran in families, affecting men but not women. While color-blind men had two normal cones and one mutant cone, De Vries knew that the mothers and daughters of color-blind men had the mutant cone and three normal cones—a total of four separate cones in their eyes. He suspected the extra cone could be why the women perceived color differently—not because they saw less than most people but because they saw more. He speculated that such women might be using the fourth cone to distinguish more colors than a trichromat, but he buried this insight on the last page of the paper. De Vries never wrote about four-coned women again.

In the 1980s neuroscientist John Mollon of Cambridge University, then Jordan's adviser there, was studying color vision in monkeys and became interested in De Vries's note on tetrachromacy. Mollon and Jordan realized that since color blindness is common, four-coned women must be as well. Jordan estimates they make up as many as 12 percent of women. To find if tetrachromats were hidden in this group, the researchers sought out the mothers of color-blind sons and had them take matching tests similar to the one used by De Vries, but with a twist. If they were true tetrachromats, they would never be able to make a satisfactory match, because they would be able to sense color gradations beyond those available on the test.

No luck: Mollon and Jordan found that women with four cones could consistently make a match on the tests. Jordan began to have doubts. Perhaps the fourth cone was not active. Perhaps super-vision was not real. In 2007 Jordan, now at Newcastle, returned to testing using a new method. Sitting in a dark room, peering into a lab device, women saw three colored circles flash before their eyes. To a trichromat, they all looked the same. To a tetrachromat, though, one would stand out. That circle was not a pure color but a subtle mixture of red and green light randomly generated by a computer. Only a tetrachromat would be able to perceive the difference, thanks to the extra shades made visible by her fourth cone.

Jordan gave the test to 25 women who all had a fourth cone. One woman, code named cDa29, got every single question correct. "I was jumping up and down," Jordan says. She had finally found her tetrachromat.

What would it be like to see through cDa29's eyes? Unfortunately, she cannot describe how her color vision compares with ours, any more than we can describe to a dichromatic person what red looks like. "This private perception is what everybody is curious about," Jordan says. "I would love to see that." Jordan's next challenge is discovering why cDa29 is different from the other women she tested. "We now know tetrachromacy exists," Jordan says. "But we don't know what allows someone to become functionally tetrachromatic, when most four-coned women aren't." Jay Neitz, a vision researcher at the University of Washington, thinks that potential tetrachromats may need practice to awaken their abilities. "Most of the things that we see as colored are manufactured by people who are trying to make colors that work for trichromats," he says. "It could be that our whole world is tuned to the world of the trichromat." He also suspects the natural world may not have enough variation in color for the brain to learn to use a fourth cone. Tetrachromats might never need to draw on their full capacity. They may be trapped in a world tailored to creatures with lesser powers. Perhaps if these women regularly visited a lab where they had to learn—really learn—to tell extremely subtle shades apart, they would awaken in themselves the latent abilities of their fourth cone. Then they could begin to see things they had never tried to see before, a kaleidoscope of colors beyond our imagining.

Veronique Greenwood is a staff writer for discovermagazine.com

Think you might be a tetrachromat? Please direct your email queries to vgreenwood [at sign] discovermagazine [dot] com.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Siege on June 19, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
First!

Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 19, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
Thanks for your insightful commentary Siege. :sleep:
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Tonitrus on June 19, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 19, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
Thanks for your insightful commentary Siege. :sleep:

Hmm, about as insightful as yours.  :P
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Ideologue on June 19, 2012, 11:44:40 PM
Distinguishing between different types of colors within the normal human spectrum is a pretty weak superpower.  Arm Fall Off Boy laughs at that.

Now, if human tetrachromats were like avian tetrachromats, capable of detecting ultraviolet light, then you could legitimately describe that as "superhuman."

Quote"This private perception is what everybody is curious about," Jordan says. "I would love to see that."

Mary's room in black and white conscious qualia blah blah blah
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2012, 12:38:22 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 19, 2012, 11:44:40 PM
Distinguishing between different types of colors within the normal human spectrum is a pretty weak superpower.  Arm Fall Off Boy laughs at that.

Now, if human tetrachromats were like avian tetrachromats, capable of detecting ultraviolet light, then you could legitimately describe that as "superhuman."

Quote"This private perception is what everybody is curious about," Jordan says. "I would love to see that."

Mary's room in black and white conscious qualia blah blah blah

Are you retarded or just completely color blind and thus understandably unable to imagine different colors from black, white and gray?
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Ideologue on June 20, 2012, 04:07:44 AM
It's just not superhuman, Tim.  Live with it.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2012, 04:18:31 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 20, 2012, 04:07:44 AM
It's just not superhuman, Tim.  Live with it.
I vehemently disagree. Their vision is in an important way 100 times sharper than an average human's.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Brazen on June 20, 2012, 05:08:27 AM
There's a cultural element to the way we define colours, so these tetrahedrons have no way to express what they see differently. What we see as shades of the same colour may be defined as a totally different colour elsewhere.

For example, it has been posited that the ancient Greeks did not register blue as a colour, for example; it does not mean they couldn't see blue.

From Wiki:
QuoteThe Ancient Greeks made little use of the colour blue, except as as a background for the white figures of the friezes of the Parthenon and other temples. Their palate of primary colours was composed of red, yellow, black and white. They also had no clear definition of what blue was; The Greek word for dark blue, kyaneos, could mean any dark colour; not just blue, but also violet, black, or brown. The ancient Greek word for a light blue, glaukos, also could mean green, grey, yellow, or light brown.

Homer used the term "wine-dark sea" implying it may have been perceived at the time as in the red spectrum.

After all, who hasn't had that childhood/drunken/stoned argument with a friend about, "How do I know that when you see red, you see it the same as me, man"?
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Monoriu on June 20, 2012, 05:13:12 AM
Does the enhanced vision grant an evolutionary advantage? 
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2012, 06:22:42 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2012, 04:18:31 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 20, 2012, 04:07:44 AM
It's just not superhuman, Tim.  Live with it.
I vehemently disagree. Their vision is in an important way 100 times sharper than an average human's.

Doesn't help them see our bullshit coming any sooner, so no Timmay, it isn't. 
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Neil on June 20, 2012, 07:42:34 AM
Quote from: Siege on June 19, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
First!
This sort of shit is completely unacceptable here.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 20, 2012, 05:13:12 AM
Does the enhanced vision grant an evolutionary advantage?
I would assume it would for women when they were gathering fruit and such. That's why old world monkeys evolved 3 cone color vision. The side effect is that men are more likely to be color blind if their mother has this trait, I'm not sure how detrimental that would be to hunting.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Valmy on June 20, 2012, 07:59:48 AM
These new super color seeing mutants will destroy us all!
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: PDH on June 20, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
I would assume it would for women when they were gathering fruit and such. That's why old world monkeys evolved 3 cone color vision. The side effect is that men are more likely to be color blind if their mother has this trait, I'm not sure how detrimental that would be to hunting.

You do realize that men foraged as much as women, and women hunted (albeit mostly smaller game) as much as men... 

Not every trait has to have an advantage, they can just not be so devastating as to not be bred out.  In the case such as this, it is often better to chalk up such variations to diversity that has no benefit now, but might if conditions change.

-edit -  Leggy would know more than I do, but it seems that too often we assume either a direction to evolution or a simple cause and effect that often really hasn't been there.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 20, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: Brazen on June 20, 2012, 05:08:27 AM
There's a cultural element to the way we define colours, so these tetrahedrons have no way to express what they see differently. What we see as shades of the same colour may be defined as a totally different colour elsewhere.

For example, it has been posited that the ancient Greeks did not register blue as a colour, for example; it does not mean they couldn't see blue.

From Wiki:
QuoteThe Ancient Greeks made little use of the colour blue, except as as a background for the white figures of the friezes of the Parthenon and other temples. Their palate of primary colours was composed of red, yellow, black and white. They also had no clear definition of what blue was; The Greek word for dark blue, kyaneos, could mean any dark colour; not just blue, but also violet, black, or brown. The ancient Greek word for a light blue, glaukos, also could mean green, grey, yellow, or light brown.

Homer used the term "wine-dark sea" implying it may have been perceived at the time as in the red spectrum.

After all, who hasn't had that childhood/drunken/stoned argument with a friend about, "How do I know that when you see red, you see it the same as me, man"?
Well said.

More importantly, unless they can shoot lasers out of their eyes who gives a fuck?
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: DGuller on June 20, 2012, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 19, 2012, 01:25:07 AM
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De Vries never wrote about four-coned women again.
Thank God for that.  :x
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: Scipio on June 20, 2012, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 20, 2012, 07:42:34 AM
Quote from: Siege on June 19, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
First!
This sort of shit is completely unacceptable here.
But totally hilarious once in a blue moon, like a 'your mom' joke at your 20 year high school reunion.
Title: Re: Mutants among us! Humans With Super Human Vision!
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 21, 2012, 04:35:04 AM
Quote from: PDH on June 20, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 20, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
I would assume it would for women when they were gathering fruit and such. That's why old world monkeys evolved 3 cone color vision. The side effect is that men are more likely to be color blind if their mother has this trait, I'm not sure how detrimental that would be to hunting.

You do realize that men foraged as much as women, and women hunted (albeit mostly smaller game) as much as men... 

Not every trait has to have an advantage, they can just not be so devastating as to not be bred out.  In the case such as this, it is often better to chalk up such variations to diversity that has no benefit now, but might if conditions change.

-edit -  Leggy would know more than I do, but it seems that too often we assume either a direction to evolution or a simple cause and effect that often really hasn't been there.
You of course are right, but the null hypothesis just isn't any fun.