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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Kleves on June 16, 2012, 09:27:24 AM

Poll
Question: What will the USSC do with Obamacare, and what should they do?
Option 1: Will be found unconstitutional, as it should be votes: 3
Option 2: Will be found unconstitutional, but it should be constitutional votes: 9
Option 3: Will be found constitutional, as it should be votes: 5
Option 4: Will be found constitutional, but it should be unconstitutional votes: 5
Title: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: Kleves on June 16, 2012, 09:27:24 AM
With the Supreme Court decision coming down as soon as next week, I am curious how Languish thinks things will end up playing out.
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: Sheilbh on June 16, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
I think it will be found constitutional, but on the arguments I've read I'm not sure that it should be.

Given that it's so close have the betting odds moved?  I think Yi and AR were watching that.
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: merithyn on June 16, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
I believe that parts will be found constitutional, and parts will be found unconstitutional. In particular, the requirement that everyone must have insurance will be struck down, but I think the rest will be upheld.
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: grumbler on June 16, 2012, 12:24:34 PM
Quote from: merithyn on June 16, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
In particular, the requirement that everyone must have insurance will be struck down, but I think the rest will be upheld.

That would be the clever way to do it, since striking down the mandate makes the rest of the act collapse anyway.  I'm not sure the right-wing Supremes are that clever, though. 
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
The Supreme Court will rule that healthcare is not a right, just like they've ruled that other things that make sense for the world's most advanced and affluent society, like public education, aren't rights, either.

Shot in the ass, 5-4.
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: grumbler on June 16, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
The Supreme Court will rule that healthcare is not a right...

I don't think anyone is arguing that "health care is a right," so I doubt they will address that issue at all.
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: garbon on June 16, 2012, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 16, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
The Supreme Court will rule that healthcare is not a right...

I don't think anyone is arguing that "health care is a right," so I doubt they will address that issue at all.

:D
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 16, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 16, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
The Supreme Court will rule that healthcare is not a right...

I don't think anyone is arguing that "health care is a right," so I doubt they will address that issue at all.

They'll mention it, e.g., "healthcare is not a right", or some such.  That's what they do.
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: mongers on June 16, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
Quote from: Kleves on June 16, 2012, 09:27:24 AM
With the Supreme Court decision coming down as soon as next week, I am curious how Languish thinks things will end up playing out.

America declines still further ? :unsure:
Title: Re: What will happen with Obamacare? TEH POLL
Post by: MadImmortalMan on June 16, 2012, 04:55:08 PM
I don't even care at this point. Regardless of which way it goes they will find a way to make sure we all get max pain from it.