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Title: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Syt on June 05, 2012, 01:16:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FcMRkyoHKeA

Is this is indeed undoctored gameplay footage - nice. Doesn't say yet which platforms it'll be out on.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 05, 2012, 01:27:43 AM
Impressive.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Tonitrus on June 05, 2012, 01:36:11 AM
Looks like a somewhat less linear Uncharted game.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Josquius on June 05, 2012, 02:58:26 AM
That does at least look pretty awesome....But then so did a lot of things...
His phone gizmo seems to do a lot of cool stuff but I can;t help but wonder how many of those people will actually use more often than in those one or two missions where you have to use a certain gizmo.

Also, am I the only one annoyed that all such grand scale games these days seem to be set in the US? The decline of Japanese games industry saddens me. And I wish Europeans wouldn't be afraid to admit they're European.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on June 05, 2012, 10:30:23 AM
Chicago :wub:
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Grey Fox on June 05, 2012, 10:43:37 AM
It's a Ubisoft game. Built on 360, port to PS3.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on June 05, 2012, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 05, 2012, 10:43:37 AM
It's a Ubisoft game.

Well yes the ubisoft logo is apparent when one clicks on the video. :P
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Habbaku on June 06, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
While it looked rather nice and I'll definitely be paying attention to it, I enjoyed the emotional heft of 'The Last of Us' more :

http://youtu.be/8ZYkj0glnqs

That one's one to watch.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: katmai on June 06, 2012, 12:23:32 AM
Yeah that is one i'm waiting for.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: DGuller on June 06, 2012, 08:44:15 AM
I really hate these kinds of previews, for both of the referenced games.  They are made to look like movies, not like actual gameplay experience.  Therefore, you really don't have much to go on when deciding whether this is the game you want.  How much choice in actions do you actually get in either game, as opposed to being led on a linear cinematic path and maybe forced to figure out a couple of things to keep you moving on that path?  Can't tell from this.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on June 06, 2012, 08:45:41 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 06, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
While it looked rather nice and I'll definitely be paying attention to it, I enjoyed the emotional heft of 'The Last of Us' more :

http://youtu.be/8ZYkj0glnqs

That one's one to watch.

Children as leads? :x
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: FunkMonk on June 06, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
Of all the crap at E3 I think I've been most impressed with Planetside 2. 2000 players on each map :cool:
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Ed Anger on June 06, 2012, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 06, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
Of all the crap at E3 I think I've been most impressed with Planetside 2. 2000 players on each map :cool:

The massive bunny hopping will crack the game world and all the players will be thrown into the core of the planet.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: FunkMonk on June 06, 2012, 06:18:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 06, 2012, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 06, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
Of all the crap at E3 I think I've been most impressed with Planetside 2. 2000 players on each map :cool:

The massive bunny hopping will crack the game world and all the players will be thrown into the core of the planet.

I have a beta key. It will be a sight to behold.  :cry:
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2012, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on June 06, 2012, 06:10:42 PM
Of all the crap at E3 I think I've been most impressed with Planetside 2. 2000 players on each map :cool:

That's a lot of Kubelwagen targets.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Josquius on June 06, 2012, 11:03:57 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 06, 2012, 12:12:41 AM
While it looked rather nice and I'll definitely be paying attention to it, I enjoyed the emotional heft of 'The Last of Us' more :

http://youtu.be/8ZYkj0glnqs

That one's one to watch.

hmm....sure looks cool but I fear the gameplay is rather generic.
And you just know you're gonna be hating that kid, always acting stupid and getting herself killed.

Though I wonder what the relation between the characters are...they don't seem to be father and daughter....and the name...the last of us...I suspect Siegebreaker territory...
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Syt on February 21, 2013, 04:25:47 AM
New gameplay trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EtBh4QzZKz4
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Alcibiades on February 21, 2013, 12:00:01 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on May 04, 2014, 09:36:37 AM
So this looks like it is finally dropping this month. Anyone still following this? I just saw on wikipedia that it has received 173 pre-release awards. Most hyped game ever?
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Razgovory on May 04, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
I still don't know what it's about.  As far as I can tell, you are a guy with a magic smart phone who rides on the top of trains rather then inside them.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Syt on June 16, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?783700-Ubisoft-caught-red-handed-intentional-downgrading-PC-version-of-Watch-Dogs

TL;DR: Ubisoft wowed everyone with the look of Watch_Dogs at E3. Later, they used inferior assets for the PC version, but apparently made the mistake of leaving the E3 assets in the game.

Quote...massive discoveries/improvements. He has discovered that almost all of the shaders and improvements seen in 2012 and 2013 are still in the game files, such as the e3 2012 explosions. For now he has managed to implement dynamic shadows from headlights, the increased rain density, increased NPC density, as well as 2012 e3 bloom and lens flare.
When he manages to unpack certain files, he will be able to activate everything, such as POMs, etc.
Originally Posted by Included in the mod...

Included in this mod(not all features are available yet):

-Changes to the default fog values
-Enabled bokeh DOF for the main cameras
-Stuttering Improvements
-E3 2012 Bloom
-Performance Improvements
-Enabled Headlight Shadows
-LoD Changes
-Reflection changes
-Added 3 new cameras to the game(closer, normal, further)
-Rain changes(High quality rain drops, properly reacting to light, etc)
-LensFlares(WIP)
-Lighting changes(TESTING AND WIP)
-Civilians density changes

And many more things.. SOON.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fxl5jZJS.jpg&hash=27aaa1f8d6cb15d62600fedd2c5c29e033d1495f)
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Syt on June 16, 2014, 10:12:26 AM
And (from same thread):

QuoteOne other thing just surfaced, game is double loading textures on pc, in order to maximize video memory usage. This has been causing stuttering in the retail version. Mod removes this idiocy.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on June 16, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
Typical.

But yeah, I've stayed away from this one for now. From what I've read - sounds like bargain bin is where it'll be at.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Syt on June 16, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
Yeah, reviews indicate that it's an ok, not a great game.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 16, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
Yeah, reviews indicate that it's an ok, not a great game.
:yes: I passed.  Massively overhyped, apparently.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: DGuller on June 16, 2014, 10:59:47 AM
I figured as much from the lame previews.  Games that don't show real gameplay in previews are probably hiding something.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 11:29:44 AM
I'm guessing Ubisoft hired Peter Molyneux to consult for them on the game's marketing. :)
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Valmy on June 16, 2014, 11:35:22 AM
I would hire him.  He knows how to sell bad games.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Grey Fox on June 16, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 16, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
Yeah, reviews indicate that it's an ok, not a great game.

Ubisoft never mentioned it but it's basically Assassin's Creed in Modern times. Something they've excluded doing so far.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 12:03:17 PM
I like Assassin's Creed. :hmm:
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 12:12:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 16, 2014, 11:35:22 AM
I would hire him.  He knows how to sell bad games.
Well apparently it's still selling well, despite the less-than-stellar reviews.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
The reviews of this game don't seem to be that bad at all.  Looks to be generally around 8ish out of 10. 
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
The reviews of this game don't seem to be that bad at all.  Looks to be generally around 8ish out of 10.
Right but with the pre-release hype you would have thought Ubisoft reinvented gaming or something with this thing.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
Oh, I see what you're saying. 

I don't really follow that kind of stuff all that much, so wasn't aware of it getting that kind of hype.  All I saw was that one trailer with the gunfight in the street that looked pretty cool, but not super groundbreaking or anything. 
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on June 16, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
The reviews of this game don't seem to be that bad at all.  Looks to be generally around 8ish out of 10. 

Not the PC reviews. It sounded more like a 7 at best which is also something I would shell out 59.99 for.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: garbon on June 16, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
Oh, I see what you're saying. 

I don't really follow that kind of stuff all that much, so wasn't aware of it getting that kind of hype.  All I saw was that one trailer with the gunfight in the street that looked pretty cool, but not super groundbreaking or anything. 

On the prior page, I noted it apparently had 173 pre-release awards. :P
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Razgovory on June 16, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 16, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?783700-Ubisoft-caught-red-handed-intentional-downgrading-PC-version-of-Watch-Dogs (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?783700-Ubisoft-caught-red-handed-intentional-downgrading-PC-version-of-Watch-Dogs)

TL;DR: Ubisoft wowed everyone with the look of Watch_Dogs at E3. Later, they used inferior assets for the PC version, but apparently made the mistake of leaving the E3 assets in the game.

Quote...massive discoveries/improvements. He has discovered that almost all of the shaders and improvements seen in 2012 and 2013 are still in the game files, such as the e3 2012 explosions. For now he has managed to implement dynamic shadows from headlights, the increased rain density, increased NPC density, as well as 2012 e3 bloom and lens flare.
When he manages to unpack certain files, he will be able to activate everything, such as POMs, etc.
Originally Posted by Included in the mod...

Included in this mod(not all features are available yet):

-Changes to the default fog values
-Enabled bokeh DOF for the main cameras
-Stuttering Improvements
-E3 2012 Bloom
-Performance Improvements
-Enabled Headlight Shadows
-LoD Changes
-Reflection changes
-Added 3 new cameras to the game(closer, normal, further)
-Rain changes(High quality rain drops, properly reacting to light, etc)
-LensFlares(WIP)
-Lighting changes(TESTING AND WIP)
-Civilians density changes

And many more things.. SOON.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fxl5jZJS.jpg&hash=27aaa1f8d6cb15d62600fedd2c5c29e033d1495f)

I have a question.  Why would they do that?  That doesn't seem like something that would make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 01:50:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 16, 2014, 12:58:56 PMOn the prior page, I noted it apparently had 173 pre-release awards. :P

:lol:  Just saw that.  Very nice.  I want to see a list of these awards people are giving to games they haven't even played yet.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 16, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
The reviews of this game don't seem to be that bad at all.  Looks to be generally around 8ish out of 10.

with the score-inflation of the last decade or so you need to readjust to a 6 out of 10
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 02:48:57 PM
Yeah, there's that too.  I dunno if it's still the case but at one point supposedly the revenue streams for most of the game review sites (e.g. GameSpot) were so dependent on game company advertisements that they were basically ordered to give all major studio releases OSSUM reviews for fear of jeopardizing that.

Like 5 or so years ago there was some big thing at GameSpot where some editors quit or got fired and supposedly it had something to do with that.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Razgovory on June 16, 2014, 02:54:53 PM
I remember that.  Guys name starter with a G.  Gaidar, Geiter something like that.  He reviewed Kane and Lynch and gave it a bad review.  Lost his job.  That shit's been going on for a long time.  Probably since game reviews were in magazines.  You are better off checking blogs, forum posts and videos on Youtube.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Caliga on June 16, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
Yeah, that sounds right.

So a major studio release getting an 8 out of 10 is a pretty mediocre review, in fact.  If it was P'dox it would be a great review. :)
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on June 16, 2014, 03:55:18 PM
I dunno.  Everything I've read about it seems to lean toward "Story is stupid, but the game is generally fun." 

I wonder if my computer would be able to run this thing with those E3 graphics.  That preview video really did look nice.  Why wouldn't they have that as a built in option for computer users from the beginning?  Seems dumb of them.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 03:57:20 PM
Not shelling out for this. In December, it's on sale on Steam.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 03:58:58 PM
I might get it at 15 bucks to shoot more virtual ethnic minorities. Supposedly you can go after te gays too.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Norgy on June 16, 2014, 05:15:13 PM
You'll be getting the Gaydar DLC and the shotgun, then?
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Ed Anger on June 16, 2014, 06:30:35 PM
It's fabulous.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Syt on June 17, 2014, 12:55:37 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 16, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
I have a question.  Why would they do that?  That doesn't seem like something that would make a lot of sense.

Conspiracy theory: they downgraded the PC version to make the console versions look better and sell more.

Less insane theory: they couldn't get the high end version to run smoothly and bug free on PC, so they released it in a stable, downgraded version (bad optimization added by accident).
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Razgovory on June 17, 2014, 02:46:18 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 17, 2014, 12:55:37 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 16, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
I have a question.  Why would they do that?  That doesn't seem like something that would make a lot of sense.

Conspiracy theory: they downgraded the PC version to make the console versions look better and sell more.

Less insane theory: they couldn't get the high end version to run smoothly and bug free on PC, so they released it in a stable, downgraded version (bad optimization added by accident).

Yeah, I read the conspiracy theories on the Pdox website.  Didn't make a lick of sense.  If they wanted people to buy the console versions they would have just not released it on PC.  I wondering if the "high end version" was just a build for E3, and they never intended to release that.
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Josquius on June 17, 2014, 06:04:11 AM
So its the PC version of LA Noire all over again?
Title: Re: Watch Dogs - GTA meets Deus Ex?
Post by: Norgy on June 17, 2014, 06:54:09 AM
Man, that was bad.

I see rumours Rockstar actually may release "Red Dead Redemption" for Windows.
I'd buy that, play, swear and let it rot in my Steam library along with the GTAs.