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Title: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Jacob on May 01, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
Any of you guys following the Krugman vs Ron Paul debate in New York?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/apr/30/paul-krugman-ron-paul-economics?newsfeed=true
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
I watched it live on Bloomberg.

Best part about it: Trish Regan

Funniest: RP using the Byzantine Empire as an example of sound fiscal policy.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Razgovory on May 01, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
The Byzantine Empire?  Are you serious?  I suppose the ineffective tax system would endear itself to him.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: PDH on May 01, 2012, 07:27:25 PM
To me the best ironic smilie part was Krugman saying:

"It's really telling that in America right now, Milton Friedman would count as being on the far left in monetary policy."
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Valmy on May 01, 2012, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 01, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
The Byzantine Empire?  Are you serious?  I suppose the ineffective tax system would endear itself to him.

The Solidus.  You know he loves shit like that.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Ed Anger on May 01, 2012, 08:34:15 PM
Ron Paul, the Tax Farmer.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 09:12:59 AM
Krugman has lost all sense of decorum.  The guy is a Nobel* winner - why is he lowering himself to bickering about monetary policy with some dotty crank that couldn't even pass Newt Gingrich in primary voting?    It would be like Steven Hawking debating physics with Siege.  He has become obsessed with his role as a political pundit - which is kind of sad IMO because although trade and economic geography remain very live issues for analysis, he hasn't authored a serious academic book in over a decade.


* yeah I know Riksbank blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: DGuller on May 02, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
At the end of the day, being a pundit has far more potential to influence things that matter than being an academic.  Debating with senile old fools is just the price of doing business.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
At the end of the day, being a pundit has far more potential to influence things that matter than being an academic. 

I doubt that.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
At the end of the day, being a pundit has far more potential to influence things that matter than being an academic. 

I doubt that.

Paul's kookery is making an impact on GOP policy in general.  I think the Republican party of Iowa has added returning to the  Gold Standard to it's party plank.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
At the end of the day, being a pundit has far more potential to influence things that matter than being an academic. 

I doubt that.

Paul's kookery is making an impact on GOP policy in general.  I think the Republican party of Iowa has added returning to the  Gold Standard to it's party plank.

Somehow I doubt that an op-ed in the New York Times by a bearded Jewish Ivy League professor is going to have any effect on that.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 09:04:51 PM
This is true, but Paul is changing opinions.  Which is the part about him I find scary.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 02, 2012, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
At the end of the day, being a pundit has far more potential to influence things that matter than being an academic. 

I doubt that.

A pundit's influence is immediate, an academic's is felt mostly after he's dead.
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Ideologue on May 03, 2012, 02:00:04 AM
Quote from: Jacob on May 01, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
Any of you guys following the Krugman vs Ron Paul debate in New York?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/apr/30/paul-krugman-ron-paul-economics?newsfeed=true

Aw, man.  I'll have to get to it at some point.  Paul Krugman is pretty great, despite his evil East Coast elite roots and his joyfully taking part in the higher education scam.)
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Ideologue on May 03, 2012, 02:03:21 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 02, 2012, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
At the end of the day, being a pundit has far more potential to influence things that matter than being an academic. 

I doubt that.

Paul's kookery is making an impact on GOP policy in general.  I think the Republican party of Iowa has added returning to the  Gold Standard to it's party plank.

Somehow I doubt that an op-ed in the New York Times by a bearded Jewish Ivy League professor is going to have any effect on that.

Why do you hate the idea of a man attempting to bring non-stupid economics to a lay audience?  Shouldn't you be, like, in favor of that?
Title: Re: Krugman vs Paul
Post by: Martinus on May 03, 2012, 02:03:42 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
Funniest: RP using the Byzantine Empire as an example of sound fiscal policy.

You've got to pander to the vital Byzanteen demographic.