Yes, when I first saw the letters "House of Cards (2012)" I came in my pants.
Starring Kevin Spacey and directed by Seven, Fight Club and Girl w. Dragon Tattoo director David Fincher with a $100M budget and 26 episodes I have not had such high hopes for any TV production since A Game of Thrones (and before that ever).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_%28U.S._TV_series%29
America, you have no idea what is about to hit you.
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Quote from: Viking on April 17, 2012, 01:39:23 PM
Yes, when I first saw the letters "House of Cards (2012)" I came in my pants.
Was it fruious?
So that is the shit Netfux is wasting its money on instead of securing more old shit for me to watch in my underwear.
Hopefully, they won't screw it up.
Fuck Netflix. I pay $60/mo. for cable.
This better not end up being yet another "war in iraq was evil, bushitler" movie/series.
Quote from: Tamas on April 17, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
This better not end up being yet another "war in iraq was evil, bushitler" movie/series.
Is it about the vile crimes committed by Martyhitler and Poland in the Iraq war? Everybody always forgets about Poland.
Quote from: Tamas on April 17, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
This better not end up being yet another "war in iraq was evil, bushitler" movie/series.
In which case everybody involved needs to be destroyed in fire since they will have betrayed the spirit of the book and series.
Yeah, my sister attended the cattle call for extras on that a few weeks ago. I skipped it, because Katmai wasn't going to be there.
I saw the Brit original years and years ago on masterpiece theatre (well, not the original, but the sequel - Final Cut I think it was called). Marvelous stuff. But I have very few hopes that US cable can do it justice.
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2012, 02:26:12 PMMarvelous stuff. But I have very few hopes that US cable can do it justice.
I'm the eternal optimist.
Quote from: Tamas on April 17, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
This better not end up being yet another "war in iraq was evil, bushitler" movie/series.
Like?
To be honest I think given how soon after Iraq is it's batting above average for good films.
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
I saw the Brit original years and years ago on masterpiece theatre (well, not the original, but the sequel - Final Cut I think it was called). Marvelous stuff. But I have very few hopes that US cable can do it justice.
I don't. That cast and that director. I think it's got a lot of potential.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 17, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: Tamas on April 17, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
This better not end up being yet another "war in iraq was evil, bushitler" movie/series.
Like?
Lions for Lambs. Fahrenheit 9/11. Crash.
Ok, maybe not that last one.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2012, 02:15:55 PM
Yeah, my sister attended the cattle call for extras on that a few weeks ago. I skipped it, because Katmai wasn't going to be there.
Aw shucks :blush:
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
I saw the Brit original years and years ago on masterpiece theatre (well, not the original, but the sequel - Final Cut I think it was called). Marvelous stuff. But I have very few hopes that US cable can do it justice.
But it's not even US cable. It's a video streaming service. ;)
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
I saw the Brit original years and years ago on masterpiece theatre (well, not the original, but the sequel - Final Cut I think it was called). Marvelous stuff. But I have very few hopes that US cable can do it justice.
There were three
A House of Cards
To Play the King
The Final Cut
I wonder how it will work not set in the parliamentary environment. Our struggle for party leadership is a lot different in character than the sort of wheeling and dealing that happens there.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 17, 2012, 04:47:27 PM
I wonder how it will work not set in the parliamentary environment. Our struggle for party leadership is a lot different in character than the sort of wheeling and dealing that happens there.
I suppose they might run the story during an extended primary.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 17, 2012, 04:47:27 PM
I wonder how it will work not set in the parliamentary environment. Our struggle for party leadership is a lot different in character than the sort of wheeling and dealing that happens there.
How so?
Watching it again on Lovefilm. One thing that I hadn't thought of but would probably be difficult for an American series to do is how blatantly political it is. These are Tories. The main characters play into all sort of Tory tropes and stereotypes - the novels were written by a former advisor to Maggie so he knew what he was talking about.
I can't imagine an American TV show being so blatantly about Republican or Democrat - which I think it needs to be. Though I could be pleasantly surprised with that cast and director. I do hope Spacey gets to say 'you may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 19, 2012, 06:47:32 PM
Watching it again on Lovefilm. One thing that I hadn't thought of but would probably be difficult for an American series to do is how blatantly political it is. These are Tories. The main characters play into all sort of Tory tropes and stereotypes - the novels were written by a former advisor to Maggie so he knew what he was talking about.
I can't imagine an American TV show being so blatantly about Republican or Democrat - which I think it needs to be. Though I could be pleasantly surprised with that cast and director. I do hope Spacey gets to say 'you may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
Oh, I'm pretty sure they can get some tropes and stereotypes out of Republicans and Democrats. Hell, the live ones do it now.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 17, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
To be honest I think given how soon after Iraq is it's batting above average for good films.
Green Zone: stupid.
War Inc.: their retard goes up to 11.
The Hurt Locker: good.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 19, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
Oh, I'm pretty sure they can get some tropes and stereotypes out of Republicans and Democrats. Hell, the live ones do it now.
But I mean whether they're willing to actually do that instead of seeping the politics out of it so he could be party whip of either party trying to climb to the top.
Yi. Also good: Turtles Can Fly, the Messenger. If you include documentaries: The Control Room, Iraq in Fragments.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 19, 2012, 06:55:54 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 17, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
To be honest I think given how soon after Iraq is it's batting above average for good films.
Green Zone: stupid.
War Inc.: their retard goes up to 11.
The Hurt Locker: good.
It's not a movie, but HBO's Generation Kill was excellent.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 19, 2012, 06:47:32 PM
Watching it again on Lovefilm. One thing that I hadn't thought of but would probably be difficult for an American series to do is how blatantly political it is. These are Tories. The main characters play into all sort of Tory tropes and stereotypes - the novels were written by a former advisor to Maggie so he knew what he was talking about.
I can't imagine an American TV show being so blatantly about Republican or Democrat - which I think it needs to be. Though I could be pleasantly surprised with that cast and director. I do hope Spacey gets to say 'you may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
Quote"I couldn't possibly comment"
The drama also introduced and popularised[3] the phrase: "You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment." It was used by Urquhart whenever he could not be seen to agree with a question, with the emphasis on either the 'I' or the 'possibly' depending on the situation. The phrase was even quoted in the House of Commons following the series.[3] A variation on the phrase was written into Terry Pratchett's Hogfather for Death, voiced by Richardson. A further variation was used by Nicola Murray, a fictional government minister, in the third series finale of The Thick of It.
The Genius of A house of Cards was, among other things, to have a blatantly partisan character look straight into the camer and tell the viewer that the viewer voted for this and is now getting it. In one sense using the fact that the viewer probably did vote for maggie at some point to make the viewer his accomplace. US politics doesn't have a figure comparable to Michael Foot; well, it does but none of them became party leader.
The willing submission to the will of Francis Urqhart by multiple characters is made belivable by the viewer's own willing submission to him.
The more I think about this the more impossible the task of making this seems to me.
I disagree that they need that Maggieness. I think the books are actually first of all trying to imagine a post-Maggie world and secondly making a story of John Major's benighted existence.
But I think the key to making it work is all the Shakespeare quotes. It's a Shakespearean story. Who'll rule the Kingdom now the old, strong King's gone? Urquhart doesn't need the tacit approval of voters to work as a character, he's like Iago or Richard III he makes the viewer complicit. You're sat watching half horrified and half willing them on like the best Shakespearean villain. So it all depends on the central performance. Luckily Kevin Spacey's a great actor and I think he's played both Iago and Richard III. I can imagine him looking straight at the viewer and, slightly, smiling as the leader praises him for his loyalty.