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Title: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Scipio on April 15, 2012, 06:02:41 AM
Once again, the Catechetical Sermon of St. John Chrysostom:

If any man be devout and love God, let him enjoy this fair and radiant triumphal feast. If any man be a wise servant, let him rejoicing enter into the joy of his Lord. If any have labored long in fasting, let him now receive his recompense. If any have wrought from the first hour, let him today receive his just reward. If any have come at the third hour, let him with thankfulness keep the feast. If any have arrived at the sixth hour, let him have no misgivings; because he shall in nowise be deprived therefor. If any have delayed until the ninth hour, let him draw near, fearing nothing. If any have tarried even until the eleventh hour, let him, also, be not alarmed at his tardiness; for the Lord, who is jealous of his honor, will accept the last even as the first; he gives rest unto him who comes at the eleventh hour, even as unto him who has wrought from the first hour.

And he shows mercy upon the last, and cares for the first; and to the one he gives, and upon the other he bestows gifts. And he both accepts the deeds, and welcomes the intention, and honors the acts and praises the offering. Wherefore, enter you all into the joy of your Lord; and receive your reward, both the first, and likewise the second. You rich and poor together, hold high festival. You sober and you heedless, honor the day. Rejoice today, both you who have fasted and you who have disregarded the fast. The table is full-laden; feast ye all sumptuously. The calf is fatted; let no one go hungry away.

Enjoy ye all the feast of faith: Receive ye all the riches of loving-kindness. let no one bewail his poverty, for the universal kingdom has been revealed. Let no one weep for his iniquities, for pardon has shown forth from the grave. Let no one fear death, for the Savior's death has set us free. He that was held prisoner of it has annihilated it. By descending into Hell, He made Hell captive. He embittered it when it tasted of His flesh. And Isaiah, foretelling this, did cry: Hell, said he, was embittered, when it encountered Thee in the lower regions. It was embittered, for it was abolished. It was embittered, for it was mocked. It was embittered, for it was slain. It was embittered, for it was overthrown. It was embittered, for it was fettered in chains. It took a body, and met God face to face. It took earth, and encountered Heaven. It took that which was seen, and fell upon the unseen.

O Death, where is your sting? O Hell, where is your victory? Christ is risen, and you are overthrown. Christ is risen, and the demons are fallen. Christ is risen, and the angels rejoice. Christ is risen, and life reigns. Christ is risen, and not one dead remains in the grave. For Christ, being risen from the dead, is become the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. To Him be glory and dominion unto ages of ages. Amen.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Viking on April 15, 2012, 06:29:23 AM
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He is risen, but he wasn't the only one.

Quote from: Matthew 27:52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose

Perhaps Rick Grimes is the savoiur?
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on April 15, 2012, 06:45:26 AM
They're painting eggs, going to church, and eating Pascal cake here in Georgia. Most Orthodox holidays are two weeks behind the real ones, but Easter is only a week behind. Why's that?
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Post by: Caliga on April 15, 2012, 06:49:08 AM
Yay!
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Post by: Viking on April 15, 2012, 06:59:12 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 15, 2012, 06:45:26 AM
They're painting eggs, going to church, and eating Pascal cake here in Georgia. Most Orthodox holidays are two weeks behind the real ones, but Easter is only a week behind. Why's that?

Because Easter Sunday is the first sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. The Orthodox Vernal Equinox is arbitrarily set to julian march 21 and the Catholic/Protestant Vernal Equinox is arbitrarily set to gregorian march 21 while the actual equinox is just before midnight on gregorian march 20. So, there are multiple independent cycles being used, so the dates and the difference between the dates will vary from year to year.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Martinus on April 15, 2012, 07:02:32 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 15, 2012, 06:45:26 AM
They're painting eggs, going to church, and eating Pascal cake here in Georgia. Most Orthodox holidays are two weeks behind the real ones, but Easter is only a week behind. Why's that?

Because Soviets are too stupid to count dates.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Viking on April 15, 2012, 07:07:03 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 15, 2012, 07:02:32 AM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 15, 2012, 06:45:26 AM
They're painting eggs, going to church, and eating Pascal cake here in Georgia. Most Orthodox holidays are two weeks behind the real ones, but Easter is only a week behind. Why's that?

Because Soviets are too stupid to count dates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar , not the soviets, the raskolniks, The Soviets used the Gregorian dates, not the Julian. The Orthodox Church uses the Julian. So Orthodox Christmas is on Soviet January 6.

QuoteIn Russia the Gregorian calendar was accepted after the October Revolution (so named because it took place in October 1917 in the Julian calendar). On 24 January 1918 the Council of People's Commissars issued a Decree that Wednesday, 31 January 1918 was to be followed by Thursday, 14 February 1918, thus dropping 13 days from the calendar.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on April 15, 2012, 07:10:57 AM
Julian March 21st was Gregorian April 4th. That's interesting. It seems that Easter is late because last week's full moon arrived on the 7th in the Western Hemisphere but the 8th in the East.
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Post by: Neil on April 15, 2012, 07:52:12 AM
The Orthodox are annoying.  All of the regular Christian nonsense, and they can't even keep accurate dates.
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Post by: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2012, 08:10:57 AM
Christ is risen!
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Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 15, 2012, 08:17:27 AM
Yes He has. 

Don't be hard on yourself Marty. You Poles had a good run back in the late 17th Century. 
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Malthus on April 15, 2012, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 15, 2012, 06:29:23 AM
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He is risen, but he wasn't the only one.

Quote from: Matthew 27:52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose

Perhaps Rick Grimes is the savoiur?

He died for your sins - he came back for your braaaiiinnns.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on April 15, 2012, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2012, 08:10:57 AM
Christ is risen!

ქრისთე აღსდგა!

And that one's even grammatically correct. ;)
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Tamas on April 15, 2012, 09:38:35 AM
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Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 15, 2012, 10:29:05 AM
Alithos anesti!
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Post by: Razgovory on April 15, 2012, 10:57:37 AM
Again?  That's twice in one week!
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Post by: The Brain on April 15, 2012, 02:48:07 PM
That's what she said.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2012, 07:52:12 AM
The Orthodox are annoying.

Never could decide which were more obnoxious: the Greeks or the Russians.  So I lump 'em in together.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Jaron on April 15, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
Chris is Risen!
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Post by: Neil on April 15, 2012, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2012, 07:52:12 AM
The Orthodox are annoying.
Never could decide which were more obnoxious: the Greeks or the Russians.  So I lump 'em in together.
A wise policy.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: stjaba on April 15, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
Scipio, are you familiar with the tradition of celebrating Easter with firecrackers or small bombs? In Tarpon Springs, a town near Tampa populated largely by Orthodox Greek-Americans, this "tradition" apparently exists, although it is discouraged as being dangerous. http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/apr/15/homemade-bomb-shakes-tarpon-springs-during-greek-o-ar-392848/  I wonder if this is a local thing or something common in Orthodox communities.
Title: Re: Christ is Risen!
Post by: Scipio on April 16, 2012, 02:29:13 PM
Quote from: stjaba on April 15, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
Scipio, are you familiar with the tradition of celebrating Easter with firecrackers or small bombs? In Tarpon Springs, a town near Tampa populated largely by Orthodox Greek-Americans, this "tradition" apparently exists, although it is discouraged as being dangerous. http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/apr/15/homemade-bomb-shakes-tarpon-springs-during-greek-o-ar-392848/  I wonder if this is a local thing or something common in Orthodox communities.
We think that shit's crazy.  Apparently, Palestinian Orthos and Serbs like to shoot guns to celebrate
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Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 16, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: stjaba on April 15, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
Scipio, are you familiar with the tradition of celebrating Easter with firecrackers or small bombs? In Tarpon Springs, a town near Tampa populated largely by Orthodox Greek-Americans, this "tradition" apparently exists, although it is discouraged as being dangerous. http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/apr/15/homemade-bomb-shakes-tarpon-springs-during-greek-o-ar-392848/  I wonder if this is a local thing or something common in Orthodox communities.

Wow, Tarpon Springs.  I love that place.   :)  I believe it was founded by Greeks who dove to collect the natural sponges, or so I recall from visiting the sponge museum there many years ago.
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Post by: Sheilbh on April 16, 2012, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: stjaba on April 15, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
Scipio, are you familiar with the tradition of celebrating Easter with firecrackers or small bombs?
Something similar happens in Florence.  They set up a cart of fireworks outside the Duomo.  The Cardinal-Archbishop strikes a flame from some flints from the First Crusade, then a member of the Pazzi family (still!) carries it out to ignite the cart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASGXk1G_6gs&feature=player_embedded

Looks fun.

Edit:  Apparently I got it wrong.  A Pazzi got the flints during the Crusade, so they strike the flame.  The Cardinal-Archbishop then uses that flame to light a fake dove which is, flaming, shot through the Duomo's doors into the cart of fireworks.