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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Martinus on April 14, 2012, 04:41:26 PM

Title: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: Martinus on April 14, 2012, 04:41:26 PM
Right now in Poland churches and political parties receive subsidies from the government based on various factors that are not fully transparent.

It is proposed that the system is scrapped and instead every tax payer could declare 1% of his or her tax to be devoted to a specific church (or none at all) and another 1% to a specific party (or none at all). If the money is not devoted to any church or party it goes to the state treasury.

What would you think of this idea? I find it sensible on its face value but also quite subversive - since it gives the rich greater power that is not wholly democratic.
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: Sheilbh on April 14, 2012, 04:44:26 PM
I generally don't support state funding for political parties or Churches.  I'd possibly make an exception for Churches with listed buildings.

That system sounds better though as it's at least transparent.
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: Martinus on April 14, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 14, 2012, 04:44:26 PM
I generally don't support state funding for political parties or Churches.  I'd possibly make an exception for Churches with listed buildings.

That system sounds better though as it's at least transparent.

I support it for the churches, but I am not sure about the political parties. Right now political parties are funded based on the election result they get (which is not ideal, since it penalizes parties that are new etc.) However, under this 1% proposal, this makes a party's funding dependent on the wealth of its supporters - I mean, don't get me wrong, I like anything that gives the wealthy (i.e. me) the greater influence on this silly country, but I don't think it is very democratic.

We already can donate 1% of tax to a social cause in Poland. These would be further 2%.

Once we reach 100% (yeah I know, a slippery slope, but we are getting there) we will have no state with redistribution powers whatsoever - just people individually donating their own money. :P
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 14, 2012, 06:30:52 PM
I see no reason the state should be passing the offering plate. No on both counts. Any charity that's worth having around can manage some fundraising without resorting to this stuff.
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: Ed Anger on April 14, 2012, 06:33:47 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 14, 2012, 06:30:52 PM
I see no reason the state should be passing the offering plate. No on both counts. Any charity that's worth having around can manage some fundraising without resorting to this stuff.

I won't even check off the "Give $1 to blah blah box" on any form.
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: Razgovory on April 14, 2012, 08:29:05 PM
How do we know it's happening?  If it's not very transparent, how would know it's going on?
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: sbr on April 14, 2012, 09:10:27 PM
:huh:
Title: Re: 1% of tax to churches and political parties
Post by: Neil on April 14, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
I would understand how politicians would be in favour of this.  It'd be difficult to oversee, and so would create enormous opportunities for the sort of graft that Eastern Europeans love so much.