Just finished the beta. It has a good feel and art style; retains the D2:LoD vibe and gameplay. Lots of little easter eggs and hat tips (including a gratuitous reference to Legacy of Kain). Overall, an excellent beta/demo.
Monk character is all I've played. It works pretty well. Very reminiscent of the fighting styles in Jade Empire.
I burned a lot of time on Diablo, less on Diablo 2 although it was a superior game. Not sure I am really into it anymore or at least enough to get Diablo 3.
I never really liked the Diablo series.
I loved Diablo I and II, but the "always connected" policy I don't like a bit.
L.
I loved D1+Hellfire, but not D2. I guess that's why I like Torchlight as a light diversion.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 06:47:38 PM
I never really liked the Diablo series.
I wasn't a big fan either. I never played the first part and played Diablo 2 for a bit and while I was entertained I thought it was pretty much run of the mill fantasy game. I will try Diablo 3 since I get it for free with my yearly Blizzard pass anyway, but don't expect it will hold me for long.
The game hurt my wrist.
Indeed, Diablo is a vector for carpal tunnel syndrome.
Yeah, lots of repetitive clicking in that game.
Ok, I have to confess that as they roll out the videos for the various character classes I am getting a bit more interested in this.
This weekend is an open beta weekend
yeah downloading the client as we speak.
I've been in the closed beta since early Feb but I could never bother to play. Now I did.
It's diablo & I like it, altho I think t 60$ it's too expensive.
Check out Path of Exile Might still be in beta, but it's fun...and very diabloish... and free http://www.pathofexile.com/
I had a lot of fun with it.
The thing they get right that they other buys dont is itemization. The addiction comes from trying to get just one more drop.
I think I will start with the monk. That was a blast. My least favourite class was the witchdoctor but even that was fun - just not as fun as the monk.
Spamming Jars full of Spider sure isn't something I did before.
I enjoyed the Demon Hunter. Shooting arrows.
Quote from: Arvoreen on April 23, 2012, 06:24:26 AM
Check out Path of Exile Might still be in beta, but it's fun...and very diabloish... and free http://www.pathofexile.com/
I have. The Skill tree is overwhelming.
I played the mage to level 4 and the demon hunter to level 10. Didn't have much time due to school and work over the weekend, but I enjoyed it well enough. Don't think I'll be getting it when it first comes out, though, since it's $60. I didn't like the mage that much, but the demon hunter was pretty slick. I also liked that you occasionally get companions to help you out, even if they don't do a hell of a lot. The voice acting is well-done.
I liked each class. Nice differentiation in play style and content between all of them. Monk was definitely my fave.
Gah! Why oh why do I have to wait three more days?
Quote from: Iormlund on May 12, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
Gah! Why oh why do I have to wait three more days?
Before the open beta I wasn't interested in Diablo 3 at all. The beta got me hooked on the old familiar Diablo gameplay.
I don't have any work/school obligations until June. My life = :nerd:
Lucky git. A friend of mine has taken a whole week off for release - he says he is going to work on his new apartment, which of course nobody believes.
I wish I could do the same, but first I have to finish monitoring systems for a warehouse, a white goods assembly line and a power generating company. :glare:
17th is a bank holiday here and I've got the 18th off. I'll go out and see if I can buy it today. Apparently it's available in the big department stores.
You guys aint going to get to play.
Crash galore! Unscheduled maintenance!
I hope so, because release is at 00:00 and if I get to log in I'm not going to get much sleep. :P
Installing it now, but play doesn't unlock until early tomorrow morning. :(
So, I just bought it. When I went into the shop, which had it right at the entrance, it was 55 Euro, but I had to look for something else first. When I came back toactually buy it, it was down to 50 Euro. Yeah.
Installing now. I am really looking forward to it. I hope it is as good as its predecessors but then Blizzard has never disappointed me so far.
If you fancy some co-op my battletag is the same as this nick.
By the look of the streams the asian midnight release seems to have kicked off well. Hopefully the Euro and the Americas have a similar release. :)
Quote from: Iormlund on May 14, 2012, 11:11:06 AM
If you fancy some co-op my battletag is the same as this nick.
You and Zanz in Euroland right? I wouldn't mind starting a Euro region character for co-op.
Should I be buying ATVI stock in anticipation of earnings on this?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 14, 2012, 11:32:59 AM
Should I be buying ATVI stock in anticipation of earnings on this?
For the dividend, not for the share price.
Also, must resist, the urge.
Yes, I'm in Europe. I assume Zanza is as well.
My tag is apparently "Zanza#2857" :huh:
And yes, I am in Europe.
Damn you guys are making my trigger finger itch badly, even if I don't have nearly as much free time for coop as I had when Diablo II was released.
Is the "always online" policy confirmed?
L.
Yes, of course.
It's RMAH.
The digital version is €59.99 :huh: :wacko:
L.
Your money is also worth nothing!
It's also 60$ here.
My battletag is Bastiat#1384 :cool:
I'm Arthois#1869
Which class will you play first?
Plan on playing a Wizard first, then Demon Hunter or Monk.
Server busy. :mad:
Quote from: Zanza on May 14, 2012, 05:02:07 PM
Server busy. :mad:
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:lmfao:
Fuck. Can't sleep either now.
Temeter#1520
I kind of wished I'd remembered to mark myself down for the beta, but I only had WoW and Starcraft checked off. I finished downloading and installing it today though with the free digital copy I received for signing up for that 1 year of WoW plan.
Played the first few minutes and its fun. Logging on this morning was no problem at all either.
Played for about five and half hours so far with two different toons (Barb and Wiz).
Game is really good. Retains the addictive gameplay from the first two. The only thing that is screwing things up is the issues with the servers going up and down for maintenance.
I get home just in time for the servers to be down lol.
And i don't know what my battle tag is :lol:
Played some coop with three friends tonight - after it took half an hour for login - and that's a lot of fun. The creeps are a lot harder then and make much more damage. Especially after the skeleton king.
Tried monk and witch doctor so far and like the monk much better. Might try the demon hunter next.
Quote from: HVC on May 15, 2012, 04:45:07 PM
I get home just in time for the servers to be down lol.
And i don't know what my battle tag is :lol:
Go to battle.net, login, and you can find it there. It should look like
blahblahblah#1234
HVC#1652 it is
Scipio#1190 here.
Logged about 5 hours, reaching lvl 13 as a Monk. Helluva a lot of fun. I'm enjoying the crafting mechanic and the skill switching. And the interaction with the companions is pleasant as well, especially Scoundrel plus Leah.
One key for success with the Monk is multiple hit-style attacks and status effects.
Don't forget turn on elective mode.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2012, 08:57:44 AM
Don't forget turn on elective mode.
What's elective mode?
Quote from: Scipio on May 16, 2012, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2012, 08:57:44 AM
Don't forget turn on elective mode.
What's elective mode?
QuoteBy default, Elective Mode is an option in the game that is turned off. It's recommended to turn this on when you get a chance.
Elective mode allows the player to place multiple skills from the same category to their key bindings.
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/66627/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-to-elective-mode-in-diablo-3
Rolling with a lvl 18 Barb and lvl 11 wizard right now. I was getting my ass kicked in Act 2 as the Barb until I level a bit and switched skills (Frenzy, Leap, Ground Stomp, Revenge combo is incredible, and then I spam Seismis Slam until everything dies).
Quote from: ulmont on May 16, 2012, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Scipio on May 16, 2012, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2012, 08:57:44 AM
Don't forget turn on elective mode.
What's elective mode?
QuoteBy default, Elective Mode is an option in the game that is turned off. It's recommended to turn this on when you get a chance.
Elective mode allows the player to place multiple skills from the same category to their key bindings.
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/66627/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-to-elective-mode-in-diablo-3
Yeah, I googled it right after I asked. What a difference.
Having quite a bit of fun with my wizards (one for co-op with friends, the other for solo play).
Multiplayer is very chaotic. With all the WD pets and the spell effects there are moments where I can't see the enemies at all.
Played coop a bit further to level 23, now with a demon hunter. I second Iormlund's statement that it can get really confusing when four players cast and the enemies cast as well. The whole screen glows in different colors and its sometimes hard to keep track of the enemy you just had focused.
Hell, I get confused just soloing with my Barbarian. Level 24 now, breezing through the beginning of Act 3.
So how is it? I have a free download with my WoW annual pass, but with my bandwidth, it will probably take two nights to get it all.
It's a lot of fun. They fixed a lot of the stupid from D2:LoD.
It's better than Torchlight, and the skills are easier to understand and more granular.
It's also never up.
I didn't have connection problems in the last two days.
Played coop with friends all the way to killing Diablo on normal.
I am a demon hunter, one of them is a sorcer and one is a barbarian. Some of the time, we also had a fourth friend joining as a monk. The demon hunter is quite fun, although I didn't quite get the point of some of the skills yet. Maybe it's due to my play style.
Game is allright, but since there have been so many Diablo clones through the years and several of those have been good it's a bit "meh seen it all before".
For some reason the last two acts seem easier than the second.
I do die a lot in boss fights though. I seem to have a special talent that gets me focused once I hit my Archon keybind. :(
I guess I need to stack a lot more vitality and mitigation for 4 player co-op. I do fine on my own.
How many acts are there?
There are four acts. I played through the game with my demon hunter in coop in about 18 hours.
Quote from: Iormlund on May 16, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Multiplayer is very chaotic. With all the WD pets and the spell effects there are moments where I can't see the enemies at all.
Putting on health bars helps a little bit with that. But only a little.
I'm not thrilled with some of the aesthetics choices made by Blizzard. The monk kung fu fighting with a huge shield? The monk carrying his weapon at the ready and then not using it in combat (since he is kung fuing)? Why did he ready his weapon? I also miss a plate armor class.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/17/french-firm-offers-free-dildos-to-diablo-3-widows/
Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2012, 04:06:01 AM
I'm not thrilled with some of the aesthetics choices made by Blizzard. The monk kung fu fighting with a huge shield? The monk carrying his weapon at the ready and then not using it in combat (since he is kung fuing)? Why did he ready his weapon? I also miss a plate armor class.
Monk having Russian accent, coming from Ivgorod, looking like Nipponese Zen Buddhist.
I like how you can inspect your friends heroes & even see what they look like.
My most played friend has 22h with a level 37 Barbarian.
Quote from: Scipio on May 18, 2012, 06:27:55 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2012, 04:06:01 AM
I'm not thrilled with some of the aesthetics choices made by Blizzard. The monk kung fu fighting with a huge shield? The monk carrying his weapon at the ready and then not using it in combat (since he is kung fuing)? Why did he ready his weapon? I also miss a plate armor class.
Monk having Russian accent, coming from Ivgorod, looking like Nipponese Zen Buddhist.
Real Russians are ghastly.
Do you have to beat the game before you can up the difficulty?
Quote from: Kleves on May 18, 2012, 09:18:44 AM
Do you have to beat the game before you can up the difficulty?
Yes. That is how Diablo works.
Think of it like Wow except it's the same 4 zone over & over.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 18, 2012, 09:52:30 AM
Think of it like Wow except it's the same 4 zone over & over.
:yuk: :zzz
So, it's pretty much never worth it to pick up white items, is it? That's kind of annoying.
Quote from: Iormlund on May 17, 2012, 08:34:37 PM
For some reason the last two acts seem easier than the second.
I do die a lot in boss fights though. I seem to have a special talent that gets me focused once I hit my Archon keybind. :(
I guess I need to stack a lot more vitality and mitigation for 4 player co-op. I do fine on my own.
Yeah Vitality I'd say is the second most important stat after your main stat, especially for soft-skinned wizards. It's a delicate balance between the two, which I like a lot.
Right now I got my Wizard to 30, co-oping with my brother's 30 Monk. He runs interference for me while I nuke everything with Disintegrate (DEATH STAR LOLZ). Everything just melts away.
Quote from: Kleves on May 18, 2012, 10:28:03 AM
So, it's pretty much never worth it to pick up white items, is it? That's kind of annoying.
Yeah, just skip white items (except for gems of course). Totally useless after the initial levels and only worth like 3 gold.
This game is pretty easy so far, but I haven't gotten to Nightmare yet. I've looked at some streams of folks who are Inferno now and it looks like the difficulty goes up exponentially. Sometimes they get wiped by just regular mobs and the rare ones are harder than the bosses. :lol:
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 18, 2012, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 17, 2012, 08:34:37 PM
For some reason the last two acts seem easier than the second.
I do die a lot in boss fights though. I seem to have a special talent that gets me focused once I hit my Archon keybind. :(
I guess I need to stack a lot more vitality and mitigation for 4 player co-op. I do fine on my own.
Yeah Vitality I'd say is the second most important stat after your main stat, especially for soft-skinned wizards. It's a delicate balance between the two, which I like a lot.
Right now I got my Wizard to 30, co-oping with my brother's 30 Monk. He runs interference for me while I nuke everything with Disintegrate (DEATH STAR LOLZ). Everything just melts away.
I'm lvl 35 now. I've foregone an increase in DPS for better survivability. So far so good.
I've also returned to my defensive build, plus Hydra (which is a spell I really underestimated): http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#aZYdXR!abW!ZbZaba
I thinking of trying one based on lots of regen and Disintegrate instead, though. It would likely do a lot better against Champion and Rare packs.
So, HOTT or NOTT?
BTW my tag is Kleves#1687.
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 19, 2012, 08:14:00 AM
Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2012, 11:39:35 PM
So, HOTT or NOTT?
I'm enjoying it a lot. :)
Same here.
I've found that by far the best way to level up in Nightmare is to hunt the Auction House for cheap items with subpar but still decent stats
and Gold Find. They'll pay for themselves fairly quickly with the amount of gold drops. I've managed to go from 550 DPS and 1500 HP to 900 DPS and 6k HP spending just 25k gold.
I'm trying not to use the the auction house much. I've bought a couple perfect gems off it, but not much else other than selling a few items. I think I get more enjoyment out of the game by just farming normally. That said I've only just started nightmare mode, so I'll probably have to buy at least a few items eventually to keep up the progression in hell and inferno.
I'm quite happy with what I have on my 35 wizard at the moment. 4.2k HP with 1.28k dps while buffed. :showoff:
Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2012, 04:06:01 AM
I'm not thrilled with some of the aesthetics choices made by Blizzard. The monk kung fu fighting with a huge shield? The monk carrying his weapon at the ready and then not using it in combat (since he is kung fuing)? Why did he ready his weapon?
I agree; it's pretty lame to be running all over the map with a huge mace, but then having it disappear in favor of fists when it comes time to fight. And the kicking the bell attack? WTF.
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 19, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
I'm quite happy with what I have on my 35 wizard at the moment. 4.2k HP with 1.28k dps while buffed. :showoff:
Damn, you must be very lucky with drops to manage that. Half of what I roll are quivers and crossbows. The other half, strength items. Often both. :P
Does Deckard Cain give anyone else a bit of a Catherine Hepburn vibe?
Quote from: Iormlund on May 19, 2012, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 19, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
I'm quite happy with what I have on my 35 wizard at the moment. 4.2k HP with 1.28k dps while buffed. :showoff:
Damn, you must be very lucky with drops to manage that. Half of what I roll are quivers and crossbows. The other half, strength items. Often both. :P
Yeah, I got amazingly lucky with a rare drop that, coupled with a flawless ruby, doubled my DPS from ~600 to ~1200 with amazing bonuses to three stats and decent attack speed. And it's a friggin bow :lol:
That said, I'm 40 now and have gone a similar route you have, eschewing damage for survivability. I'm running this now (I've fallen in love with Hydra like you): http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#biQPRO!abX!ZbZZZa (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#biQPRO!abX!ZbZZZa) I only do ~900 DPS now, with 6.3k HP.
Really fun build for co-op in which I put down a Hydra, my partner (a Monk) runs interference, I sit back and blast Disintegrate. If a mob comes at me I hit Mirror Image, run or Teleport away and continue. With Energy Armor I get my Armor up to 43% reduction (not including Blur's 20% reduction to melee hits), so I'm approaching Wizard tank status :cool:
LOL battlenet is down Blizzfail.
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 20, 2012, 12:39:39 AM
Yeah, I got amazingly lucky with a rare drop that, coupled with a flawless ruby, doubled my DPS from ~600 to ~1200 with amazing bonuses to three stats and decent attack speed. And it's a friggin bow :lol:
That said, I'm 40 now and have gone a similar route you have, eschewing damage for survivability. I'm running this now (I've fallen in love with Hydra like you): http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#biQPRO!abX!ZbZZZa (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#biQPRO!abX!ZbZZZa) I only do ~900 DPS now, with 6.3k HP.
Really fun build for co-op in which I put down a Hydra, my partner (a Monk) runs interference, I sit back and blast Disintegrate. If a mob comes at me I hit Mirror Image, run or Teleport away and continue. With Energy Armor I get my Armor up to 43% reduction (not including Blur's 20% reduction to melee hits), so I'm approaching Wizard tank status :cool:
I tried a similar build once, though maybe not as much as I should have. Any reason why you aren't using the Illusionist passive with it?
A friend of mine got a stupidly high DPS blue staff last night, so I'm now at 1100 DPS. I'm missing the high HP on hit and vitality I had before, though, but I still have a nice buffer (8k HP) and channeling Disintegrate or Ray of Frost is nowhere near as costly with a slow, hard hitting weapon.
I love how games get harder the more people you play with. I can breeze through nightmare on my own and have few troubles with my monk friend. But when the four of us are there champion or rare packs often lead to hairy situations unless we properly chain CCs.
Quote from: The Brain on May 20, 2012, 08:01:12 AM
LOL battlenet is down Blizzfail.
Then play the offline single player. Oh, wait . . .
Quote from: The Brain on May 20, 2012, 08:01:12 AM
LOL battlenet is down Blizzfail.
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=110000047 (http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=110000047)
Quote from: Iormlund on May 20, 2012, 08:48:52 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 20, 2012, 12:39:39 AM
Yeah, I got amazingly lucky with a rare drop that, coupled with a flawless ruby, doubled my DPS from ~600 to ~1200 with amazing bonuses to three stats and decent attack speed. And it's a friggin bow :lol:
That said, I'm 40 now and have gone a similar route you have, eschewing damage for survivability. I'm running this now (I've fallen in love with Hydra like you): http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#biQPRO!abX!ZbZZZa (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#biQPRO!abX!ZbZZZa) I only do ~900 DPS now, with 6.3k HP.
Really fun build for co-op in which I put down a Hydra, my partner (a Monk) runs interference, I sit back and blast Disintegrate. If a mob comes at me I hit Mirror Image, run or Teleport away and continue. With Energy Armor I get my Armor up to 43% reduction (not including Blur's 20% reduction to melee hits), so I'm approaching Wizard tank status :cool:
I tried a similar build once, though maybe not as much as I should have. Any reason why you aren't using the Illusionist passive with it?
I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it. I'm using it now. :P And I switched out Teleport for Magic Weapon/Force Weapon rune. I like a little more PEWPEW power from my mages.
Yeah I'm more of a control freak. With Nova -> Diamond skin -> Nova -> Wave of Force w/ stun I can chain CC mobs non-stop. And the Prism rune for Diamond Skin allows me to keep spamming Disintegrate and Ray of Frost a a lot more.
Well, I surrendered.
Drakken#1141
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:lol:
Quote from: Solmyr on May 20, 2012, 01:10:59 PM
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:D
I bought this game today because from what I read it seemed fun enough and I was willing to give it the benefit of doubt.
First of all, the 7.something GB download took me seven hours, thanks to their peer-to-peer system. It finished around 3pm. On Gamersgate, Steam or on Stardock's sites I usually d/l with to 6-7 MB/s. Then it took about an hour till the installer had verified the files and installed everything.
And since then I've been waiting to be able to log into the game here in Europe.
The last Blizz experience I had was WoW in 2008 (tried the Burning Crusade expansion for WoW but grew bored). The D3 experience so far is unlikely to turn me into a repeat customer anytime soon. But hey, maybe I can play next Sunday (when I play games it's mostly on Sundays these days).
Quote from: Syt on May 20, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
I bought this game today because from what I read it seemed fun enough and I was willing to give it the benefit of doubt.
First of all, the 7.something GB download took me seven hours, thanks to their peer-to-peer system. It finished around 3pm. On Gamersgate, Steam or on Stardock's sites I usually d/l with to 6-7 MB/s. Then it took about an hour till the installer had verified the files and installed everything.
And since then I've been waiting to be able to log into the game here in Europe.
The last Blizz experience I had was WoW in 2008 (tried the Burning Crusade expansion for WoW but grew bored). The D3 experience so far is unlikely to turn me into a repeat customer anytime soon. But hey, maybe I can play next Sunday (when I play games it's mostly on Sundays these days).
Sucker.
Yes.
I got in. :hmm:
Seems the Euro servers suck. The only time I've ever had trouble logging in on the US servers was release day.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/status :)
Is there the damn blue gem in the chat window? If there is, I'll buy the game.
L.
Query: anyone got a preference between the classes? Monk seems dead easy.
Quote from: Pedrito on May 20, 2012, 04:28:50 PM
Is there the damn blue gem in the chat window? If there is, I'll buy the game.
L.
I don't know what this means. Yes.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 20, 2012, 06:30:19 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on May 20, 2012, 04:28:50 PM
Is there the damn blue gem in the chat window? If there is, I'll buy the game.
L.
I don't know what this means. Yes.
I may be wrong but I think he's referring to the clickable gem in in the old Diablo2 Battle.net interface...?
No, it's not there. :(
If anyone is playing on the US servers, I have a level 31 Barbarian sitting at the start of Nightmare mode if anyone wants to co-op.
I love the Demon Hunter's secondary attack that allows to transform the crossbow into the submachine gun. :sleep:
Damn, the first mini-boss in Act IV Nightmare was ... interesting. I wiped quite a few times before finding the right strat. Also, I get the impression that my 12k HP don't cut it anymore.
I just fought him in Nightmare too. We wiped to the guy once and for the second try I ended up just planting a Hydra and running around flashing Frost Nova and Mirror to get away from the mobs and waited till my Hydra and my partner killed him.
Yeah I did much of the same, except I was alone and used Blizzard as well. My monk friend suffered a bit more, he ended up using Sanctuary + Reap What is Sown to kill the little bastards with their own attacks.
Quote from: Iormlund on May 21, 2012, 07:23:52 PM
Damn, the first mini-boss in Act IV Nightmare was ... interesting. I wiped quite a few times before finding the right strat. Also, I get the impression that my 12k HP don't cut it anymore.
Are you talking about Izual? He was hard, and I've only played normal so far.
Just beat it on Normal with a monk. I didn't think it was too tough. I think I died twice in Act III within about five minutes (against normal mobs - those guys with the long arms and poison are a pain in the ass), but not once the entire rest of the game.
So I have to beat the game with each individual hero before I can play with them on Nightmare? That's lame.
Once you beat the game once with any character you'll be able to play on Nightmare difficulty. There might be a level 30 prerequisite though, not sure. I beat Nightmare at level 49 but wasn't able to progress to Hell until I made it to 50.
Quote from: Ancient Demon on May 22, 2012, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 21, 2012, 07:23:52 PM
Damn, the first mini-boss in Act IV Nightmare was ... interesting. I wiped quite a few times before finding the right strat. Also, I get the impression that my 12k HP don't cut it anymore.
Are you talking about Izual? He was hard, and I've only played normal so far.
Nopes. Iskatu. Spawns a crapload of adds.
Rock Paper Shotgun doesn't like the solo game:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/18/how-diablo-iiis-solo-experience-reveals-a-hollow-game/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/18/how-diablo-iiis-solo-experience-reveals-a-hollow-game/)
mainly because of the "always on" DRM policy.
:hmm:
L.
I would say his complaint is mostly about the "not always on when it should be" DRM policy.
It's a shame the DRM is turning would-be players away. Diablo 3 is a super top quality game underneath the always-online/DRM bullshit. I was really turned off by the policy myself and wasn't going to purchase until I played the open beta.
And of course now there's a big uproar over accounts already getting hacked and people logging on to find all their items and gold gone. :hmm:
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 22, 2012, 02:48:58 PM
It's a shame the DRM is turning would-be players away. Diablo 3 is a super top quality game underneath the always-online/DRM bullshit. I was really turned off by the policy myself and wasn't going to purchase until I played the open beta.
And of course now there's a big uproar over accounts already getting hacked and people logging on to find all their items and gold gone. :hmm:
Sounds like more reasons to wait on joining the bandwagon.... :) I've resisted so far, and given how little time I have to game in general, I don't think I need the headaches.
I would have bought it if not for the DRM. I have never played any Diablo game, and wasn't too excited about this one but I like what I have been hearing.
I have enough games and other stuff to do to bother with shitty DRM though. Maybe for $10-$15 later on. Probably not though.
Quote from: sbr on May 22, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
I would have bought it if not for the DRM.
Ditto.
L.
The main reason I purchased is most of my RL mates got it from WoW Annual Pass promotion. Otherwise I would've stayed clear. Which is a shame. It's a fairly fun game.
And in other news, just finished Nightmare and equipped a staff I got off the AH for a paltry 5k gold that gives me 230 base DPS, a socket, 6k HP and 50 HP per hit. :yeah:
Time to get my ass kicked in Hell by elites with ludicrous 3-stat combos!
Yay. Took me ten minutes to get into the game (Error 37), then I played for an hour before my game was disconnected. Of course I hadn't come across any checkpoint in the meantime, meaning I will have to replay once more and will lose out on some rather nice items I had found (low level but very useful for my char). <_<
QuoteJust wanted to jump in to say that we are aware of the issue and we are working on it. We unfortunately do not have an ETA to share but we are hoping to get the game up again as soon as possible.
Quote from: Iormlund on May 22, 2012, 06:50:58 PM
Time to get my ass kicked in Hell by elites with ludicrous 3-stat combos!
Jesus wept.
I find I'm spending almost as much time flipping items in the Auction House as playing the actual damn game.
It's extraordinarily easy to make gold in the Auction House. A lot of people price their items far below what they could get for it and speculators are running rampant. It's not uncommon for me to turn out hundreds of thousands of gold in profit over an hour or two.
Diablo 3 has turned me into a day trader. :unsure:
I just use it to hunt for cheap items to use. Haven't paid more than 5k for a weapon yet. :lol:
Getting the hang of Hell, though fast elites still kick my ass regularly. Or those that spawn in closed spaces.
I'm using this build (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#WlXRfQ!dfT!cbabYY) lately. Pleasantly surprised by the Nova on hit rune of Frost Armor. It seems like it procs a lot more than it should, especially before the first hit. And Teleport + Fracture + Illusionist is just godly.
I was using a similar build to that in Hell but I recently changed because it was getting kind of boring. Now I'm using this (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#cXSQRm!bXU!YaZYab).
It's sorta like the Venom Hydra/Blizzard build, but uses Arcane Damage/Slow from Temporal Flux. I find I put out a lot more DPS because I can spam Arcane Orb. Defensively I'll hit Diamond Skin, then Teleport/Fracture when it's finished. Finish off mobs with Archon which obliterates what's left. I feel more like a badass warrior-mage with this build.
Tried today something similar while soloing Act III. I went with Familiar w/ Arcanot for Magic Weapon (will be Ancient Guardian when I get AP on crit), Energy Armor w/ Prismatic Armor for Archon (this one will probably change to Force Armor when necessary) and Illusionist for Evocation. Either I was very lucky with elite combos, the build is awesome, or I outgear the content (6k DPS w/familiar, 42k HP) because I had a much easier time in Act III Hell than in Nightmare.
I also got to lvl 60 and managed to keep up 5 stacks of Nephalem Valor through half Act III. The difference in drop rates is huge.
Lag when playing SP is awesome. Blizzard. :wub:
Not to mention losing your Nephalem stacks when you get kicked out from Battlenet ... :mad:
Some guy's tactic in Inferno. Very effective. (http://youtu.be/PEyk63UaBI4)
:lmfao:
L.
:lmfao:
Fuck me.
I caved in. :glare:
L.
This is probably the last game I bought from Blizzard.
It's fun, a lot.
But the customer service is atrocious. So far I have never been disappointed with a Blizzard game (I played WC 1-3, D 1-3, SC 1-2), but it's not acceptable that they are not willing or able to provide the necessary infrastructure despite using an always online DRM. If they expect me to be online all the time, the same should apply vice versa.
Yeah, the online-DRM is a punch in the balls for such a great game. :(
I think that, even tho D3 is an enormous success so far, this will probably kill Online-only DRM for future games.
If Blizz has trouble doing it, then how can someone smaller do it?
Also, this is probably the last Blizz game I also buy, unless they come out with D4. They never make new IPs & I have no interest in Starcraft & I doubt I'll ever have time to play another MMO.
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 30, 2012, 07:27:13 AM
Some guy's tactic in Inferno. Very effective. (http://youtu.be/PEyk63UaBI4)
Holy shit, that's funny. :D
Leo#1955
I'm rarely available for coop, though. :(
Level 10 Demon hunter here.
L.
Speaking of online-only DRM, I just read the new SimCity will require you to have an internet connection to play singleplayer as well. :bleeding:
This game is the usual drug, every time I see a blue drop I start wagging the tail in anticipation.
Last night I killed the first boss after the sunken temple (the big spider queen) and it dropped three blues and two rares, and I was all
DAFUQ FIVE ITEMS OMG THIS GAME IS SPECTACULAR.
Is it normal that the boss dropped two rares that are good for my class, or is it pure luck? Are there even set items like in Diablo2, the green ones?
BTW, I'm franky very surprised by the fact that I've never suffered error 37 or lag problems till now, the game runs like a breeze (and load times are non existent, too that's verry good).
A question for demon hunters: is it worth to equip two one-hand crossbows? because when I try it I can't see a significant raise in DPS, while if I equip a shield in the off-hand the AC goes up a lot.
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 05, 2012, 04:13:30 AM
This game is the usual drug, every time I see a blue drop I start wagging the tail in anticipation.
Last night I killed the first boss after the sunken temple (the big spider queen) and it dropped three blues and two rares, and I was all
DAFUQ FIVE ITEMS OMG THIS GAME IS SPECTACULAR.
Is it normal that the boss dropped two rares that are good for my class, or is it pure luck? Are there even set items like in Diablo2, the green ones?
The intention of the game is that you shouldn't have to farm bosses as "end game." In Inferno you go hunting for elite packs with a magic find buff that stacks to 5. Usually you don't get any rares from a scripted boss, so you were lucky.
Set items exist. I have never seen one drop. They might be rarer than legendary items.
When I used two identical 1-handed crossbows my DPS went up by 20% or so. I normally use a two-hander with a quiver instead.
Loot is completely random. 99% of the time what you get is crap. In the end most -- if not all -- of your items will come from the Auction House.
Also, the first time you down a boss you get a couple rares. Without Magic Find or the Nephalem stacks three or so blues are what you can normally expect.
Quote from: Iormlund on June 05, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
When I used two identical 1-handed crossbows my DPS went up by 20% or so. I normally use a two-hander with a quiver instead.
Loot is completely random. 99% of the time what you get is crap. In the end most -- if not all -- of your items will come from the Auction House.
Also, the first time you down a boss you get a couple rares. Without Magic Find or the Nephalem stacks three or so blues are what you can normally expect.
As far as I can tell this is by design. Most drops, even from bosses, are for characters 5-10 levels below you. You can do ok with this at the lower difficulties, but as you go up you need the latest and greatest and it pushes you to the auction house where those who have gone before will equip you.
I don't really get it. It seems kind of stupid and ruins most of the excitement of loot drops.
Is it me, or the Normal Difficulty has become harder with the new patches?
I created a third character so that I could tweak around, and while the first two times I was bulldozing my way through, this time I have to regularly flee to prevent being overwhelmed and torn to pieces.
Quote from: Drakken on June 08, 2012, 08:54:20 AM
Is it me, or the Normal Difficulty has become harder with the new patches?
I created a third character so that I could tweak around, and while the first two times I was bulldozing my way through, this time I have to regularly flee to prevent being overwhelmed and torn to pieces.
I noticed that too, but it's not one of the official changes.
You just got old.
Quote from: Malthus on June 01, 2012, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 30, 2012, 07:27:13 AM
Some guy's tactic in Inferno. Very effective. (http://youtu.be/PEyk63UaBI4)
Holy shit, that's funny. :D
This! :shifty:
Finally finished Act 3 (yes, I'm slow). Had to chuckle about this bit of lore, though:
QuoteThe siegebreaker is a monster of legends, of nightmares, and thin whispers in the dark. It is the most prized champion of the demon lords because its massive size and strength could turn any battle in its favor. I wish I knew more, but alas... all who have seen it have perished.
:lol:
Act IV is so short that me and two friends accidently got the speedrun (<1 hour) achievement for it when we played it in normal with slightly too powerful characters.
Quote from: Syt on June 10, 2012, 07:11:35 AM
Finally finished Act 3 (yes, I'm slow). Had to chuckle about this bit of lore, though:
QuoteThe siegebreaker is a monster of legends, of nightmares, and thin whispers in the dark. It is the most prized champion of the demon lords because its massive size and strength could turn any battle in its favor. I wish I knew more, but alas... all who have seen it have perished.
:lol:
Does it have bad taste in beer and underage girls? :hmm:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/21/digital-diablo-iii-purchases-restricted-for-up-to-3-days/
QuoteWe've written and spoken about our concerns and frustrations regarding Diablo III's relationship with the internet, but Kotaku notice that patch 1.0.3 introduces yet another baffling aspect to what I reckon is an increasingly indefensible strategy. People who purchase the game digitally are now being told that their copy of the game will actually be a starter edition for up to 72 hours. Why? A support agent says "...it is a necessary step to combat fraud and other malicious activities that can weaken everyone's play experience." What I'm gathering from all of this is that "everyone's" play experience seems to be a lot more important than anyone's play experience.
In case you're not sure what the starter edition contains, here's the details:
QuoteAct I up to the Skeleton King is available
Level 13 cap
Matchmaking available only with other Starter Edition players
No Auction House access (Real Money or Gold)
Global Play is not available. Players attempting to connect to Diablo III Starter Edition in a region other than their Battle.net Account's home region will receive Error 12. See the Global Play support article for more information.
It's the demo. Buying the game directly from Blizzard online gives access to the demo for up to three days before the game itself unlocks. Kotaku speculate that it's an attempt to reduce server overload but maybe it's more than that. Perhaps for those first 72 hours behaviour is monitored and vetted to see if any actions are taken that could undermine the integrity of the game or the exchange of money for data. It's not just a queue but a queue with a security guard walking up and down, frisking the waiting masses.
Nothing would really surprise me. And, yes, it's only 72 hours but that's 72 hours more than is reasonable. It's as if digital versions are now subject to the same delivery time as the good old British postal system.
:rolleyes:
That's fucked. There is no way I would ever pay anything for that game. In fact it may very well be the first game I ever pirate, just out of principle.
Quote from: sbr on June 21, 2012, 11:46:33 PM
That's fucked. There is no way I would ever pay anything for that game. In fact it may very well be the first game I ever pirate, just out of principle.
All the loot is rolled on the Blizzard server, so you have to log into them to get any drops (or something to that effect) - have pirates found a way around it yet?
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2012, 11:56:06 PM
Quote from: sbr on June 21, 2012, 11:46:33 PM
That's fucked. There is no way I would ever pay anything for that game. In fact it may very well be the first game I ever pirate, just out of principle.
All the loot is rolled on the Blizzard server, so you have to log into them to get any drops (or something to that effect) - have pirates found a way around it yet?
I have no idea. I am just lashing out cluelessly.
Blizzfail.
Bought this on a whim Friday - to take a break from modding CKII. I must say, mindlessly trashing enemies is very enjoyable. Although is it me or has Blizzard adopted the annoying manga inspired overdone flashy effects?
Anyhow I got to the end of Act 2 in 20 hours and now my lvl 25 wizard is stuck at the Belial fight... I get to about halfway in his true form then I seem to run of steam and get mauled. <_<
Anyone has any idea?
G.
Quote from: Grallon on June 25, 2012, 06:17:53 AM
Bought this on a whim Friday - to take a break from modding CKII. I must say, mindlessly trashing enemies is very enjoyable. Although is it me or has Blizzard adopted the annoying manga inspired overdone flashy effects?
Anyhow I got to the end of Act 2 in 20 hours and now my lvl 25 wizard is stuck at the Belial fight... I get to about halfway in his true form then I seem to run of steam and get mauled. <_<
Anyone has any idea?
G.
Belial was the most annoying boss for me, too.
I had a difficult time avoiding the meteor areas of impact, that drained my hit points the most (the other attacks weren't as damaging as those damn meteors). I'm playing a Demon Hunter, and in the end managed to do this by using Vault a lot, very useful evasive ability. Dunno if there's some similar ability for the Wizard.
Have with you the Templar follower, he can churn out some damage and let Belial drop some most useful life globes.
Try changing your tactics and abilities, I've found this is the key to the game - a design trait for certain, to keep the player from fixing on a set of techniques and forcing one to try new things. And it's usually effective.
If you cannot manage to beat him yet, the last option is going back some chapters and leveling up a bit.
L.
When he changes form go to the lower right area. He will do one of two things: either a single hit aimed on you or a series of three starting with the floor to your left. If he does the former run right before he hits you. If he does the latter, as soon as he hits the floor run towards that point and the next two attacks will miss you. Return to your starting position in both cases.
The green areas in the meteor phase are easier to avoid if you bind a key for movement in the options rather than just using left click. Just watch that you don't get trapped at either side and remember that it takes a while for the meteors to fall. There's usually no need to hurry.
If you fuck up you can use Diamond Skin or Teleport to avoid a hit.
Oh, and btw: I loathe potion cooldown more than Error 37 :ultra:
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 25, 2012, 11:24:47 AM
Oh, and btw: I loathe potion cooldown more than Error 37 :ultra:
L.
I agree, this is a stupid feature beyond belief.
Yeah, no potions at all would have been better.
I grew bored of this pretty quickly. Didnt even get past Act one of the second level of difficulty. It just doesnt have the same appeal as I or II. I think part of it is the skill system. Back in the day you really looked forward to that next skill point. Now levelling really only means getting an extra few points in stats. Sure there are some other skills to try out but chances are you keep what you have because it all scales with your stats anyway.
Also, although my first impression was that the itemization was great it turns out that it is also just an exercise in stat bumping and getting a few other stats along.
There are no sets or cool uniques that drop like they did in II.
TLDR - there is none of the wanting to open just one more chest or kill one more mob to see what might drop or to get that one more rank.
Its all a bit bland.
I've played this once. Hahaha. I'm glad I got it for free via the year subscription to WoW. I just have remarkably little desire to play it. Maybe some day I'll invest in sitting down and trying to get into it.
After finishing the game several times I feel like I'm done with it. A meh game that will be remembered for the server fiasco.
Finally beat it. Decent enough.
Quote from: The Brain on June 27, 2012, 01:34:47 PM
After finishing the game several times I feel like I'm done with it. A meh game that will be remembered for the server fiasco.
This.
I'm getting the feeling the game really isn't worth buying.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 02, 2012, 01:14:53 AM
I'm getting the feeling the game really isn't worth buying.
Its not. Especially at today's price.
Finished @ normal lvl - then you can move on to more challenging lvls to unlock specialized crafting - but you're redoing essentially the same thing - the 'story' is known so it's kindda pointless by that point. In fact the whole thing seems to be contrived to feed their real money Auction House. It reminded me why I left WoW behind. <_<
I reinstalled NWN2 instead - ahh I missed me some good RPG!
G.
I need to finish Act IV but damn do I regret shelling out 60$ for that.
:nelson:
QuoteBlizzard gives you Diablo III Reaper of Souls!
Game Number:
[redacted]
The game will be released on 2014/3/25 12:00 noon.
A few steps to get the game serial number:
Open this link in your browser: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/10873782/diablo-iii-console-play-free
Type in the Game Number above, and start the game.
After you successfully get the serial number, you can pre-install the game file. So that on 2014/3/25 12:00 noon, when the game is released, you can start the game directly.
NOTE: We suggest you to keep this email as a reference.If you have any problem with the present or Battle.net account, please contact with our customer service. Enjoy!
:unsure:
Yay?!
Google search says it's a phishing mail. I accidentally deleted it anyways. Normally it should show up in my battle.net automatically, anyways account if it's legit.
"Blizzard" asks me for game/bank/genome information all the time.
Other than MOO3, D3 is the game I most regret purchasing.
eh, it's my #2 too. Behind Fallout 3.
I've logged maybe.... 30 minutes on it? I'm not a big fan of any of the character classes they chose to roll out in the regular. I may purchase the Reaper of Souls expansion for the paladin class. I figure since I got D3 for free (hooray year commitment to WoW!), I can shell out a bit for the expansion without feeling bad. :)
Actually, my son, daughter & I have been having fun with DIII on the PS3 in co-op play. I don't regret that money spent. Not sure how it is on the PC though....
Quote from: Arvoreen on January 14, 2014, 09:44:48 PM
Actually, my son, daughter & I have been having fun with DIII on the PS3 in co-op play. I don't regret that money spent. Not sure how it is on the PC though....
If you liked DII you should try Path of Exile. If you didnt play DII then I can understand why you might like DIII
I actually played a lot of D3, but I did it mostly with three RL friends (also WoW guildmates).
Didn't play D2 back in the day so CC may be up to something.
I played Diablo III online with real life friends as well and it was fun for a while. Once you realized that you literally only found crap stuff and the only way to get good stuff was the auction house it was over though.
I think a big part of the itemization problem wasn't really the items themselves, but how imbalanced min-maxing certain things was. There were one or two builds (sometimes none) that worked for each character and that tended to make most things absolutely useless.
Precisely the thing that I like the most from DotA 2 is the sheer variety having over 100 heroes gives the game, despite consisting of essentially playing the same map over and over again.
Quote from: Iormlund on January 15, 2014, 01:09:54 PM
I think a big part of the itemization problem wasn't really the items themselves, but how imbalanced min-maxing certain things was. There were one or two builds (sometimes none) that worked for each character and that tended to make most things absolutely useless.
Both are big issues. Itemization was terrible. People who played DII saw that and left the game almost immediately to play Path of Exile where itemization is closer to DII - you have to make real decisions about what sorts of stats to stack.
Diablo 3's long-awaited 2.0 patch was just released. The smart loot system is a huge improvement so far. I'm liking the game again. :)
What does that mean? I haven't touched this in ages. It was fun for a while to play with friends online, but that was it.
You liked the game?
It was okay, not great. I would consider playing it again if there are major changes that make it more appealing.
They completely changed the loot system. Loot drops are tailored to what class you're playing, so now you're receiving items that are actually useful. Unlike in the old system, where I'd find an optimal weapon and never change it out, now I'm finding better equipment, or equipment more useful with a different skill build. A ton of skills have been revamped, so previously useless skills have been completely changed or dropped entirely and replaced with better ones. Also the Paragon system has been rejiggered a bit, allowing you to customize your character after every new level.
Diablo 3 fell into the trap where everyone played the same builds and had the same equipment and everything got really repetitive after a while. This patch is an attempt to resolve those issues. I'm really enjoying it so far. It's free, so if you have some free time give it a shot.
Is it still true that you basically just stack one stat depending on class or are there choices to be made now?
Back when I played it, the only thing that mattered was high DPS. So you just bought the best possible weapon you could afford for your character in the auction house every two or three levels.
Yep, each class still stacks their respective primary stat plus Vitality. Paragon levels allow you to customize all of the secondary stats.
Auction House is getting patched out of the game in March, thankfully. What an idiotic idea that was in the first place.
Quote from: FunkMonk on February 26, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Yep, each class still stacks their respective primary stat plus Vitality. Paragon levels allow you to customize all of the secondary stats.
I think I will continue to give it a pass then. I like games that require balancing judgments. Its one of the reasons I also gave up on WoW. Everyone of x class wanted to get y item to be uber. It was just a question of how long it would take (ie how much you had to grind end game content) to get it so that you could go on to grind the next version of the uber gear.
POE still comes the closest to what I am looking for in itemization and decision points. If they could create an MMO with similar decisions I might even get interested in that again.
Yeah, D3 is still very much a casual game, and WoW's influence is still very much present even after this update.
It's nice to see Blizzard finally fix their game. The core Diablo gameplay of killing monsters with many different builds and finding crazy loot wasn't really fun before this patch and the Auction House was a complete disaster. I'm actually interested in the Reaper of Souls expansion now.
So, how is the game these days?
Also, is the expansion worth €39.99 (I can't imagine it being so ...)?
Quote from: Syt on August 06, 2014, 04:11:40 AM
So, how is the game these days?
Also, is the expansion worth €39.99 (I can't imagine it being so ...)?
Mindless pastime, but fun, as it's always been.
I don't own the expansion, but many of its features were implemented in the last big patch for the base game, too.
L.
It's fun, if you own the base game give it a try again. If you find it too easy be sure to crank up the difficulty.
I bought the base game and expansion as a bundle for $60 and that was worth it, dunno about €39.99 for just the expansion. I burned out on it fairly soon after getting one of each character up to max level, and not finding the endgame randomized dungeons to be that engaging.
Yeah, I will check it out, then (I have the basegame), after I'm done with Sacred 2 Gold. Thanks! :)
So, got Diablo 3 on PS4. Haven't played it yet because Dawid is hogging it. Will let you know how it is when I have time to play. <_<
The new patch 2.1 is pretty fun. The game seems to be reinventing itself every six months.
Patch 2.3 is out and a new season has started, so I decided to give this a whirl again after, uhm, 3 years? :D
I rolled a Wizard and started on "Normal" to be get back into it. I'm in Act II and partially thanks to some lucky legendaries I'm hilariously overpowered. My electric armor kills most generic mobs as soon as I see them, and the disintegrator beam kills bosses like the Butcher or Maghda in under 5 seconds :lol:
Might be time to ramp up the difficulty. :hmm:
QuoteIn general, monsters in higher difficulties (Hard, Expert, Master) are tougher and their attacks are more devastating. However, greater gold, experience, and item rewards await you on the higher difficulties.
PC DIFFICULTY LEVELS
Normal: 100% Health, 100% Damage, 0% extra gold bonus, 0% extra XP bonus
Hard: 200% Health, 130% Damage, 75% extra gold bonus, 75% extra XP bonus
Expert: 320% Health, 189% Damage, 100% extra gold bonus, 100% extra XP bonus
Master: 512% Health, 273% Damage, 200% extra gold bonus, 200% extra XP bonus
Torment I: 819% Health, 396% Damage, 300% extra gold bonus, 300% extra XP bonus
Torment II: 1311% Health, 575% Damage, 400% extra gold bonus, 400% extra XP bonus
Torment III: 2097% Health, 833% Damage, 550% extra gold bonus, 550% extra XP bonus
Torment IV: 3355% Health, 1208% Damage, 800% extra gold bonus, 800% extra XP bonus
Torment V: 5369% Health, 1752% Damage, 1150% extra gold bonus, 1150% extra XP bonus
Torment VI: 8590% Health, 2540% Damage, 1600% extra gold bonus, 1600% extra XP bonus
Torment VII: 18985% Health, 3604% Damage, 1700% extra gold bonus, 1900% extra XP bonus
Torment VIII: 41625% Health, 5097% Damage, 1800% extra gold bonus, 2300% extra XP bonus
Torment IX: 91260% Health, 7208% Damage, 1900% extra gold bonus, 2750% extra XP bonus
Torment X: 200082% Health, 10194% Damage, 2000% extra gold bonus, 3300% extra XP bonus
Quote from: Syt on August 29, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Patch 2.3 is out and a new season has started, so I decided to give this a whirl again after, uhm, 3 years? :D
I rolled a Wizard and started on "Normal" to be get back into it. I'm in Act II and partially thanks to some lucky legendaries I'm hilariously overpowered. My electric armor kills most generic mobs as soon as I see them, and the disintegrator beam kills bosses like the Butcher or Maghda in under 5 seconds :lol:
Might be time to ramp up the difficulty. :hmm:
QuoteIn general, monsters in higher difficulties (Hard, Expert, Master) are tougher and their attacks are more devastating. However, greater gold, experience, and item rewards await you on the higher difficulties.
PC DIFFICULTY LEVELS
Normal: 100% Health, 100% Damage, 0% extra gold bonus, 0% extra XP bonus
Hard: 200% Health, 130% Damage, 75% extra gold bonus, 75% extra XP bonus
Expert: 320% Health, 189% Damage, 100% extra gold bonus, 100% extra XP bonus
Master: 512% Health, 273% Damage, 200% extra gold bonus, 200% extra XP bonus
Torment I: 819% Health, 396% Damage, 300% extra gold bonus, 300% extra XP bonus
Torment II: 1311% Health, 575% Damage, 400% extra gold bonus, 400% extra XP bonus
Torment III: 2097% Health, 833% Damage, 550% extra gold bonus, 550% extra XP bonus
Torment IV: 3355% Health, 1208% Damage, 800% extra gold bonus, 800% extra XP bonus
Torment V: 5369% Health, 1752% Damage, 1150% extra gold bonus, 1150% extra XP bonus
Torment VI: 8590% Health, 2540% Damage, 1600% extra gold bonus, 1600% extra XP bonus
Torment VII: 18985% Health, 3604% Damage, 1700% extra gold bonus, 1900% extra XP bonus
Torment VIII: 41625% Health, 5097% Damage, 1800% extra gold bonus, 2300% extra XP bonus
Torment IX: 91260% Health, 7208% Damage, 1900% extra gold bonus, 2750% extra XP bonus
Torment X: 200082% Health, 10194% Damage, 2000% extra gold bonus, 3300% extra XP bonus
Normal is now the "I don't know what I'm doing, should I press the mouse button?" mode. I generally level up characters on Expert or Master, unless I get some great items. That'll usually mean you get to max level by the time you go through the content once.
Of course last time I played Torment only went up to 6 and I was doing T5s with my better geared characters (Monk and Wizard).
I'm currently chugging along on T4 with my wizard.
Difficulty levels are meaningless unless expressed in real terms. How hard is Diablo 3 in 1985 prices?
Tuppence.
Well. I've switched to Master, and it's definitely more fun and slightly more challenging this way. Though with the increased XP I also made it from 25 to 35 ridiculously quickly. I try to have a somewhat effective build, but the ability/runes combos I like and the ones that synergize well are not the same. :D
Adventure mode, right?
Actually doing campaign at the moment, because it's been a long while and as silly, over the top and melodramatic as Blizzard stories tend to be, I kind of enjoy them.
Honest question:
should I bother building a seasonal toon, if I'm not interested in competitive play?
otherwise, the difficulty levels are available for normal, non-seasonal toons, am I right?
Ah, I'm playing vanilla, not Reaper of Souls.
L.
You could do season for the simple fact of having more people to play with.
Finished the story on Master this weekend, reached level 70 with my wizard and switched to adventure mode. And now I'm bored. Doing bounties/rifts to get better gear to get to tougher levels to get better gear to .... blergh. Not for me.
I think your options now are:
Stop and play something else. A good choice if you have other things to play.
Switch to a different character and playing through the campaign again. They all have their charms. Witch Doctor will be easiest if you kept much of your older gear around as much of it will be INT based. One of the melee (Monk, Barbarian, Crusader) characters will be best for the biggest change in play.
Keep playing with the same wizard and reset the campaign.
Thanks for the tips, but I think I'll just stop and move on. When the game came out I played a barbarian (I tend to prefer melee classes), and I've toyed with the other classes before. Main reason I went wizard this time was because I normally never play casting characters in RPGs. Just by doing the campaign I hit all Season goals for Part I-III, and some for Part IV. I might make another run with a monk or demon hunter at some point.
I spent half my Sunday doing bounties and rifts and at the end I felt like I had overfed on sugar - lots of stuff happening that's satisfying to see (enemies blowing up by the dozens! and dropping loot!) but I felt pretty unfulfilled in the end, and almost hungover.
But yeah, I mostly play games (with a few exceptions like Euro Truck Sim or Bejeweled 3) for the stories - either a scripted one (RPGs, adventures, campaigns in other genres) or one that emerges during play (many strategy games, rogue likes, open world games, sports managers). There are only few games that hook me on mechanics alone - mastering a game for its own sake or chasing achievements is just not my thing.
I still like watching people playing stuff like super hard "I wanna be the ..." fangames, but I wouldn't want to make it through myself.
I'm with you Syt. The appeal of simply redoing the same over & over & over doesn't appeal to me at all in D3.
Yeah, it's why games like War Thunder or World of Tanks are fun for a while, but then become boring for me.
I'm not saying that these are crap games, mind you, just that they're not for me.
No, they are for you. You played it, enjoyed it & now it's over.
That's ok. Not everyone is a single game player.
Fair point. :)
For me the allure of the Diablo series was always running those randomly generated areas to keep getting better gear and (in D2) to try to get as close to max level as possible without getting killed - I played on Hardcore. If playing on softcore then I think a lot of the excitement leaves the game.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 08, 2015, 05:31:05 PM
For me the allure of the Diablo series was always running those randomly generated areas to keep getting better gear and (in D2) to try to get as close to max level as possible without getting killed - I played on Hardcore. If playing on softcore then I think a lot of the excitement leaves the game.
The major bosses in D3 can't be completed if you die during the attempt. Also there are Greater Rifts, which are timed areas that increase the rewards the quicker you do them. There's a cutoff where you can still finish but lose out on one of the big benefits. You can still complete them if you die (if you aren't hardcore), but each death has an increasing time penalty attached.
Personally I don't like hardcore for two reasons. One, the safest way to do hardcore is to mindlessly grind at easier difficulty levels rather than pushing the envelope. I like there to be a challenge to what I'm doing and hardcore just seems like an invitation to never take risks. Second, I've got a small kid so there's no way I can guarantee the uninterrupted play time that hardcore requires.
But what is CC's motivation in this scenario? In D3 reaching max level is a 6 hour journey no one can fail.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 09, 2015, 09:00:13 AM
But what is CC's motivation in this scenario? In D3 reaching max level is a 6 hour journey no one can fail.
My reference to reaching max level was in relation to D2 - something that was almost impossible in hardcore mode. Because getting to max level is so easy in D3, the equivalent to that experience in D3 is getting through the progressive levels of difficult.
Frunk, thanks for that explanation. When I get a new computer I think I will take another look at this.
I have to say that my favorite Diablo remains the first one, though I understand that I'll be in the minority and that D2 is far more popular.
D1's beauty for me was its simplicity - you fight your way from top to bottom, kill the bad guys and do it again. Slain monsters stayed dead, levels during one run didn't reset.
I was enthused when D2 came out, but its surface world with resetting levels turned me off - in D1, cleaning out a level gave me a sense of completion; in D2 (and3), if I come back later there's a new level with resurrected enemies. I'll never be "done."
I'm normally not an OCD person, but this greatly annoyed me.
Iirc playing areas (levels in D1) could be reset in D1 just as they can be reset in D2 and D3.
I'm pretty sure they didn't unless you started a new game. If there were console commands or options to do so I don't know, but in regular play I'm very sure that monsters didn't respawn and levels didn't reset/weren't newly generated.
Quote from: Syt on September 09, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
I'm pretty sure they didn't unless you started a new game. If there were console commands or options to do so I don't know, but in regular play I'm very sure that monsters didn't respawn and levels didn't reset/weren't newly generated.
Its the same with both D2 and D3. You have to reset or regenerate a level to get respawns. In D1 it was pretty much essential to do this in order to level up/gear up. You didn't just go from level 1 of the dungeon to kill diablo in one go. In D1 you got to choose which level of the dungeon you entered after the respawn so you didn't have to go through all the mobs again. In later versions you did the same thing through the use of way points.
I suppose you could go through the whole thing without regenerating a level if you wished but I am not sure you would have gotten very far in D1 or D2.
You could finish D1 normal version without ever backtracking. That's how I did it.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 09, 2015, 01:52:55 PM
You could finish D1 normal version without ever backtracking. That's how I did it.
I was thinking about finishing the game on Hell mode or whatever the most difficult setting was.
It existed back then too?
To me that is the less appealing thing of the Diablo series, do the same thing, again, with just higher monsters. :bleeding:
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 09, 2015, 01:55:40 PM
It existed back then too?
To me that is the less appealing thing of the Diablo series, do the same thing, again, with just higher monsters. :bleeding:
Yeah, that was actually the best part of the game. Sure you can defeat normal without breaking a sweat but after that the game really changes. On harder difficulties you have to pay a lot more attention to how you gear, what skills you use etc. If you didn't play the next two difficulty settings you really only played 1/3 of the game.
Thought I'd give this a try now that season 5 has started.
Well, fuck that. 8+ minute queue time for a SOLO game? You gotta be kidding me (it started at 3+ minutes and then ticked UP to over 8 minutes at the moment). Looking at the forums I at least know I'm not alone with this.
Quote from: Syt on September 08, 2015, 02:07:06 AM
Thanks for the tips, but I think I'll just stop and move on. When the game came out I played a barbarian (I tend to prefer melee classes), and I've toyed with the other classes before. Main reason I went wizard this time was because I normally never play casting characters in RPGs. Just by doing the campaign I hit all Season goals for Part I-III, and some for Part IV. I might make another run with a monk or demon hunter at some point.
I spent half my Sunday doing bounties and rifts and at the end I felt like I had overfed on sugar - lots of stuff happening that's satisfying to see (enemies blowing up by the dozens! and dropping loot!) but I felt pretty unfulfilled in the end, and almost hungover.
But yeah, I mostly play games (with a few exceptions like Euro Truck Sim or Bejeweled 3) for the stories - either a scripted one (RPGs, adventures, campaigns in other genres) or one that emerges during play (many strategy games, rogue likes, open world games, sports managers). There are only few games that hook me on mechanics alone - mastering a game for its own sake or chasing achievements is just not my thing.
I still like watching people playing stuff like super hard "I wanna be the ..." fangames, but I wouldn't want to make it through myself.
Funny, how perception can change. Last week I dug this out, because it was a good thing to play while listening to podcasts (Euro/American Truck Sim are also good with that). Since then it's all I've been playing, and I'm enjoying it a lot.
I rolled a seasonal Monk, leveled her up during the week, and the last few days have been going through the Season 8 goals. I originally didn't plan to, but when I saw that the season ends soon, I got interested again. I want to get the class set - and all that's left to do is to get to a level 20 Greater Rift. (Though killing the T4 bosses required going from blindly charging into enemies to slowly progressing through enemy groups :D )
I suppose it helps that the first part of the season gear are rather overpowered. The first pieces give you a bonus that applies Exploding Fist to enemies every third resource builder. Exploding Fist makes enemies explode for massive AOE if they die while the effect is active. Which gets rid of trash mob hordes fast.
The second reward bits doubles your Seven Sided Strike. That's enough to kill e.g. The Butcher and most other bosses with one attack on T1.
The final bits will add a bonus that Seven Sided Strike detonates Exploding Fist even if the enemy hasn't died yet.
I'm rather annoyed, though, that in 10 attempts to enchant a socket into a legendary ring so I can slot a legendary gem, none has been successful. <_<
I'm more pleased than I should be that the second pet I picked up is a little mimic that now runs after me and picks up all my gold drops. Which is doubly fun when I equip the hoarder gem that increases gold drops to ridiculous amounts. :D
Still playing this. :unsure: (Though mostly to watch Netflix/listen to audio books on the side.)
Currently geared to easily breeze through T8 rifts, and I easily got to greater rift level 40 yesterday. I was stuck on T4 for a while, but then some set bonuses aligned that I have good survivability with some crazy damage output (being able to spam a 1000% right click attack with that damage increased by another 3000% up to 10 times helps a lot).
I play a bit these days, mostly while I listen to music. Doing T11 rifts comfortably but haven't tried T12 yet. I want an ancient Litany of the Undaunted ring for 100% ancient goodness.
Patch 2.4.3 preview. Celebrating Diablo's 20th Anniversary, they plan to recreate the D1 dungeon in D3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ4UkV4z7tI
Also, fuck. 20 years? :o :(