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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Zoupa on March 29, 2012, 12:16:02 AM

Title: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Zoupa on March 29, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
France's population is set to exceed Germany's in 2050. :frog:

Link is in french, but the graphs should be ok for you devil speakers.

http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1585/publi_pdf1_487.pdf (http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1585/publi_pdf1_487.pdf)
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 12:21:34 AM
Why is France's population increasing like that?  And why is it assumed that Germany's population will go into major decline?  You guys aren't planning a new world war are you?  We don't want to have go over there again.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Sheilbh on March 29, 2012, 12:22:35 AM
So's the UK's.  ENTENTE CORDIALE! :w00t:  :bowler: :frog:

QuoteWhy is France's population increasing like that?
Decent birthrate, some immigration.

QuoteAnd why is it assumed that Germany's population will go into major decline?
Low birthrate, less immigration.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Viking on March 29, 2012, 12:30:14 AM
Are Algerians and Turks being counted as well?
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Okay.  I was just curious.  Good for France. :) 
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Viking on March 29, 2012, 12:38:15 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 29, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
France's population is set to exceed Germany's in 2050. :frog:

Link is in french, but the graphs should be ok for you devil speakers.

http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1585/publi_pdf1_487.pdf (http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1585/publi_pdf1_487.pdf)

iirc this is also the year the population of Yemen will exceed that of Russia.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2012, 01:02:12 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 29, 2012, 12:38:15 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 29, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
France's population is set to exceed Germany's in 2050. :frog:

Link is in french, but the graphs should be ok for you devil speakers.

http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1585/publi_pdf1_487.pdf (http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1585/publi_pdf1_487.pdf)

iirc this is also the year the population of Yemen will exceed that of Russia.

:lol: Isn't Yemen literally running out of water with its current population.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 29, 2012, 02:17:46 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 29, 2012, 12:38:15 AM
iirc this is also the year the population of Yemen will exceed that of Russia.

That can't be right.  Yemen has two dinky cities.  Maybe you mean Pakistan?
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 29, 2012, 02:25:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Okay.  I was just curious.  Good for France. :)
but bad for europe.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 29, 2012, 02:42:08 AM
Pakistan already has more people than Russia.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 29, 2012, 03:02:19 AM
OK, but Yemen had a population of 24 million in 2010.  Unless Putin managed to kill 120 million journalists while I wasn't watching there's no way Yemen's going to pass them.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2012, 03:08:44 AM
Yemen has a  population growth-rate of 3.1% per annum, so an extrapolation gives them 80m in 2050.

Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2012, 03:10:59 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2012, 03:08:44 AM
Yemen has a  population growth-rate of 3.1% per annum, so an extrapolation gives them 80m in 2050.
Not happening unless they're given a fuckton of desalinization plants and the infrastructure to transport that water across the country. They'll be hard pressed to support the population they have.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 29, 2012, 03:14:47 AM
Or maybe Yemenis will be genetically engineered to require less water.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2012, 03:23:42 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2012, 03:10:59 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 29, 2012, 03:08:44 AM
Yemen has a  population growth-rate of 3.1% per annum, so an extrapolation gives them 80m in 2050.
Not happening unless they're given a fuckton of desalinization plants and the infrastructure to transport that water across the country. They'll be hard pressed to support the population they have.

I think that was Viking's point. Simple extrapolations of population growth are not that great when used for lengthy periods of time.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Zoupa on March 29, 2012, 03:24:42 AM
I do believe our Norwegian friend was making a quip about how unreliable demographic projections are.

As for the subject of this thread, France is today at 65m and Germany at 81m, with opposite trends. Given those conditions, the gap could close by 2050, easily.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 29, 2012, 04:22:13 AM
I completely missed the part about 2050.  My bad Puff. :face:
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Viking on March 29, 2012, 04:27:05 AM
yes, I was referring to the fact that yemen is in the middle of a birth bulge while Russia is quickly killing off all it's men above 50 with unhealthy additives to home made spirits. This causes both countries to have screwed population growth rates with the russian population falling while the yemeni one grows.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 29, 2012, 06:12:07 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 29, 2012, 03:14:47 AM
Or maybe Yemenis will be genetically engineered to require less water.  :hmm:

just desalinate them
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 07:24:19 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 29, 2012, 02:25:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Okay.  I was just curious.  Good for France. :)
but bad for europe.

Why is that?  Are the French going to come screaming over the borders invading every other country?
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Neil on March 29, 2012, 07:45:40 AM
Burn in hell, overpopulators.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Martinus on March 29, 2012, 08:41:18 AM
Only an idiot would make predictions 40 years into future based on today's trends alone. Since most journalists are idiots, I am not surprised this got traction.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Ed Anger on March 29, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
I will arrive there soon to plow the French fertile fields.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Zanza on March 29, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
After eight years of decline, Germany's population rose 2011 due to higher immigration from Eastern Europe.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Sheilbh on March 29, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 29, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
I will arrive there soon to plow the French fertile fields.
Qu'un sang impur   
Abreuve nos sillons ![/b]?

Quoteyes, I was referring to the fact that yemen is in the middle of a birth bulge while Russia is quickly killing off all it's men above 50 with unhealthy additives to home made spirits. This causes both countries to have screwed population growth rates with the russian population falling while the yemeni one grows.
Russia's also got a low birthrate :(
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 29, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 07:24:19 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 29, 2012, 02:25:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Okay.  I was just curious.  Good for France. :)
but bad for europe.

Why is that?  Are the French going to come screaming over the borders invading every other country?

they've done it once, they might do it again. :p
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: Ed Anger on March 29, 2012, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 29, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 29, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
I will arrive there soon to plow the French fertile fields.
Qu'un sang impur   
Abreuve nos sillons ![/b]?


Either my impure blood, or darkie towelheads. Their choice.
Title: Re: Clémenceau, rest easy.
Post by: KRonn on March 29, 2012, 07:55:34 PM
Vive la France!  :frog: