QuoteWitchcraft Trial: Magalie And Eric Bikubi Guilty Of Murdering Kristy Bamu, 15
A couple are facing life sentences today after being found guilty of murdering a teenage boy they accused of witchcraft.
Kristy Bamu, 15, was tortured and drowned in a bath on Christmas Day 2010 by his sister Magalie and her partner Eric Bikubi.
They believed he had cast spells on another child in the family, the Old Bailey heard.
Football coach Bikubi, 28, and Magalie, 29, of Newham, east London, denied murder but were found guilty.
They were remanded in custody to be sentenced on Monday.
Kristy was in such pain after three days of being attacked with knives, sticks, metal bars, and a hammer and chisel that he "begged to die" before slipping under the water.
He had refused to admit to sorcery and witchcraft and his punishments in a "deliverance" ceremony became more horrendous.
He had come to London with his two brothers and two sisters from their home in Paris to visit Magalie during the Christmas holiday in 2010.
But Bikubi turned on them, accusing them of bringing kindoki - or voodoo - into his home.
He forced them to pray for deliverance for three days and nights and deprived them of food and water.
The sisters, aged 20 and 11, were beaten along with Kristy, but escaped further attacks after "confessing" to being witches.
Kristy was singled out after wetting his pants. He was struck in the mouth with a heavy bar and hammer, knocking out his teeth.
Ceramic floor tiles and bottles were smashed on his head and and a pair of pliers used to twist his ear.
The terrified siblings, who also included a 13-year-old boy and an autistic brother aged 22, were made to join in the torture.
At one point, Bikubi told the youngsters to jump out of the window to see if they could fly, the court heard.
They looked to their older sister to save them, but instead Magalie encouraged Bikubi and beat Kristy until he also confessed to witchcraft.
Sister Kelly, now 21, broke down several times in court as she relived the terror.
She said: "They started talking about kindoki, witchcraft and this and that.
"It was as if they were obsessed by witchcraft and then it became absolutely unbearable.
"They asked if we were witches. I repeated again and again and again that we were not witches.
"I did not know what was going on in their minds. They decided we had come there to kill them."
Kelly added: "Kristy asked for forgiveness. He asked again and again.
"Magalie did absolutely nothing. She didn't give a damn. She said we deserved it."
Calling Magalie "an idiot", Kelly said: "I am sure she still believes even to this day that we are witches.
"I have no pity for her. She had no pity for us."
At the end of their ordeal, they were all placed in the bath to be hosed down in cold water with a shower head.
Brian Altman QC, prosecuting, said: "It was only when he realised that Kristy was not moving that Eric Bikubi stopped what he was doing and pulled him from the water. By then it was too late."
Kristy had 130 separate injuries and died from a combination of being beaten and drowning.
Paramedics called to the eighth-floor flat tried to save Kristy but he was already dead.
In the blood-spattered living room, police found Kristy's brothers and sisters.
"All were standing in the living room, hysterical, terrified and soaking wet," said Mr Altman.
Items found in the flat had been used as "weapons of torture".
He said: "In a staggering act of depravity and cruelty, they both forced the others to take part in the assaults upon Kristy.
"The children had no option other than to do as they were told, or risk the same violence to themselves.
"As Kristy's injuries became ever more severe, he even pleaded to be allowed to die.
"Eventually Bikubi took him into the bathroom, put him in the bath and started to run the water.
"Kristy was just too badly injured and exhausted to resist or to keep his head above the water.
"Kristy had been the victim of a prolonged attack of unspeakable savagery and brutality.
"Kristy was killed in the name of witchcraft. It is hard to believe in this day and age anyone can believe someone was practising witchcraft."
Several calls were made during their four-day ordeal to the children's parents in Paris, but they did not realise what was happening.
"Mr Bamu had sent his children on holiday, not to a torture chamber," added Mr Altman.
Two years before, family friend Naomi Ilonga, 19, was made to cut off her long hair by the couple to "release witchcraft" after being caught biting her nails.
The jury was told that in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where the defendants were originally from, witchcraft was practised in Christian churches.
But out of the church's control "it may take on a feral and indeed evil character, as we suggest it did here", Mr Altman added.
Bikubi admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility caused by brain damage, but this was rejected.
He also pleaded guilty to two counts of causing actual bodily harm to the girls. Magalie denied the assaults but was found guilty.
Detective Inspector Paul Maddock said later: "It's an almost unprecedented scenario where siblings are murdering another sibling.
"The family have been very positive, they've pulled together remarkably well.
"They were more than willing to give evidence and make sure the perpetrators were dealt with appropriately."
In a statement the family said the had been "robbed of a beloved son": "We will never forget, but to put our lives back into sync we must forgive.
"We take no comfort in the verdicts - we have been robbed of a beloved son, a daughter, a son-in-law."
Scotland Yard has investigated 83 cases involving abuse resulting from ritualistic or faith-based beliefs, and brought 17 prosecutions, over the last 10 years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03/01/magalie-and-eric-bikubi-kirsty-bamu-witchcraft-trial_n_1312938.html
Wow, and I thought Brits are civilized people.
Religion is the mind killer...
G.
Quote from: Martinus on March 08, 2012, 03:36:48 AM
Wow, and I thought Brits are civilized people.
To be fair they were originally from DR of Congo, this wasn't a Church of England exorcism.
If you want to do something about this
http://www.steppingstonesnigeria.org/
Stepping Stones Nigeria is a charity which works with both religious and non-religious groups in nigeria and the west to work against the idea of witchcraft and helping the kids which have been abused and expelled from their homes
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stand-Against-Helen-Ukpabio/300276600023391
Helen Ukpabio is one of the anti witch preachers, she and her followers claim to have killed over 1000 witches (remember read witch as frightened child)
If you forget Sarah Palin was blessed by a witch hunting african preacher and has associated with people like that. This is real and evil and yet another reason I hate religion.
A Nigerian child once turned me into a newt.
Quote from: Brazen on March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 08, 2012, 03:36:48 AM
Wow, and I thought Brits are civilized people.
To be fair they were originally from DR of Congo, this wasn't a Church of England exorcism.
How racist of you to point that out.
Quote from: Brazen on March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 AMTo be fair they were originally from DR of Congo, this wasn't a Church of England exorcism.
'The power of Christ persuades you! Please.'
It's a very sad story. Sadly there's probably been more that weren't noticed. I think it's only since the Victoria Climbie case that I think police and social workers have known about or looked out for signs of witchcraft exorcisms.
There's got to be a way to address the West African Churches in London that perform exorcisms and encourage these beliefs. It's religious figures inciting child abuse.
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 08, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
There's got to be a way to address the West African Churches in London that perform exorcisms and encourage these beliefs. It's religious figures inciting child abuse.
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
Quote from: Brazen on March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 08, 2012, 03:36:48 AM
Wow, and I thought Brits are civilized people.
To be fair they were originally from DR of Congo, this wasn't a Church of England exorcism.
The CoE would've served cake?
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 06:55:43 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 08, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
There's got to be a way to address the West African Churches in London that perform exorcisms and encourage these beliefs. It's religious figures inciting child abuse.
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
On the other hand, the cure would be worse than the disease.
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 08, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
There's got to be a way to address the West African Churches in London that perform exorcisms and encourage these beliefs.
Yeah, there is. Don't let the filthy niggers in. Shit, even we know that.
He drowned so he obviously wasnt a witch.
"British".
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 08, 2012, 12:26:44 PM
He drowned so he obviously wasnt a witch.
Which means the witch is still out there. :ph34r:
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 06:55:43 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 08, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
There's got to be a way to address the West African Churches in London that perform exorcisms and encourage these beliefs. It's religious figures inciting child abuse.
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
Why would that solve the problem? The problem is that they murdered someone.
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 08, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
Quote from: Brazen on March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 AMTo be fair they were originally from DR of Congo, this wasn't a Church of England exorcism.
'The power of Christ persuades you! Please.'
:lol:
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 06:55:43 AM
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
I guess we have to end money, too, because a lot of people murder people for money. And relationships - gotta end those too, because when they go sour sometimes someone gets murdered.
Good idea, Viking. I applaud your clearly well-thought-out notion of having people avoid doing anything in order to resolve the issue of undeserved murder.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 08, 2012, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 06:55:43 AM
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
I guess we have to end money, too, because a lot of people murder people for money. And relationships - gotta end those too, because when they go sour sometimes someone gets murdered.
Good idea, Viking. I applaud your clearly well-thought-out notion of having people avoid doing anything in order to resolve the issue of undeserved murder.
Are you being sarcastic, fahdiz?
How do we know the boy wasn't practicing witchcraft?
Quote from: Martinus on March 08, 2012, 06:38:39 AM
Quote from: Brazen on March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 08, 2012, 03:36:48 AM
Wow, and I thought Brits are civilized people.
To be fair they were originally from DR of Congo, this wasn't a Church of England exorcism.
How racist of you to point that out.
:huh:
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on March 08, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
How do we know the boy wasn't practicing witchcraft?
:rolleyes:
Do witches drown?
Quote from: Neil on March 08, 2012, 08:24:46 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 06:55:43 AM
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
On the other hand, the cure would be worse than the disease.
Without God there is no problem of Evil and no need to explain deleterious situations with malevolent agency.
Without magic those claiming to be subject to malevolent agency cannot claim magic as the solution to his cognitive dissonance explaining how the malevolent agency performed it's evil acts.
You crazy Europeans and your religious fundamentalism.
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 08, 2012, 08:24:46 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 06:55:43 AM
End religion and all spiritual ideas. That will resolve this issue.
On the other hand, the cure would be worse than the disease.
Without God there is no problem of Evil and no need to explain deleterious situations with malevolent agency.
Without magic those claiming to be subject to malevolent agency cannot claim magic as the solution to his cognitive dissonance explaining how the malevolent agency performed it's evil acts.
So they stated a different reason for killing him? What good does that do?
Quote from: fahdiz on March 08, 2012, 06:16:10 PM
I guess we have to end money, too, because a lot of people murder people for money. And relationships - gotta end those too, because when they go sour sometimes someone gets murdered.
Good idea, Viking. I applaud your clearly well-thought-out notion of having people avoid doing anything in order to resolve the issue of undeserved murder.
He hates religion. He's a bigot. What he says doesn't need to make sense.
I wonder how originally they are from the Congo.
Were they just born there but brought up in Britain or did they just come over a few years ago?
If the former.....wow.....Holy poo.
Quote from: Tyr on March 08, 2012, 08:48:39 PM
I wonder how originally they are from the Congo.
Maybe they're Belgians with worse accents.
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
Without God there is no problem of Evil and no need to explain deleterious situations with malevolent agency.
Without magic those claiming to be subject to malevolent agency cannot claim magic as the solution to his cognitive dissonance explaining how the malevolent agency performed it's evil acts.
Most shammanistic belief systems don't really have a God.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 08, 2012, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
Without God there is no problem of Evil and no need to explain deleterious situations with malevolent agency.
Without magic those claiming to be subject to malevolent agency cannot claim magic as the solution to his cognitive dissonance explaining how the malevolent agency performed it's evil acts.
Most shammanistic belief systems don't really have a God.
CdM's Cat Spirit is going to barf a divine hairball on you rug. :mad:
Quote from: Tonitrus on March 08, 2012, 09:18:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 08, 2012, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: Viking on March 08, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
Without God there is no problem of Evil and no need to explain deleterious situations with malevolent agency.
Without magic those claiming to be subject to malevolent agency cannot claim magic as the solution to his cognitive dissonance explaining how the malevolent agency performed it's evil acts.
Most shammanistic belief systems don't really have a God.
CdM's Cat Spirit is going to barf a divine hairball on you rug. :mad:
What Seedy's Cat Spirit might look like....
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5t8jO.jpg&hash=7d1d5adcf84db1345f8075ee6fbf9ef7597ddd5b)
How much hard drive space to you devote to cat pictures?
Quote from: Razgovory on March 08, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
How much hard drive space to you devote to cat pictures?
As much as needed.
Quote from: Tyr on March 08, 2012, 08:48:39 PM
I wonder how originally they are from the Congo.
Were they just born there but brought up in Britain or did they just come over a few years ago?
If the former.....wow.....Holy poo.
I think his parents sent him to stay with them but lived in France.
There's currently a boom in African Pentecostal Churches which is driving this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17006924
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/01/accusations-witchcraft-pattern-child-abuse